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Seibertron sponsor TFSource has shared with us an expected and unexpected new listing for the Takara Generations line. First up is one we all knew was coming and that is TG19 Fall of Cybertron Grimlock and features the usual metallic paint. The second one is a pleasant surprise and that is TG20 Ratbat. Ratbat is a metallic purple and gold repaint of Generations Scourge with what looks to be a new head.

Do mine eyes deceive me?

A Senator Ratbat?

Preordering as soon as tfsource lists that.

Henry921 wrote:Do mine eyes deceive me?

A Senator Ratbat?

Preordering as soon as tfsource lists that.

Already are at $37.
Not sure I'd buy Grimlock at $60.
Edit: The varying quality shown in Grimlock photos is deceiving and confusing. The pics used by TFSource for the Takara and Hasbro versions show the same metallic sheen on them you'd expect of silver paint. Some pics have a much duller unpainted metallic plastic for the Hasbro version. Other pics show the stripe across his chest blinged out in silver when the TFSource pics don't.
I can't make a decision when reliable info is hard to come by.

Nice, looking forward to getting Ratbat he looks awesome. should sit nice with Gen laserbeak.

Anyone else thinking "Mindwipe" when looking at that Ratbat? Because I am!

If I import or if Hasbro is smart, release him stateside, he will be repurposed as Mindwipe.

I still think it should have been Divebomb, but this Ratbat looks good too.

The more I look at Ratbat's head... the more I see Leozack in the wrong colours...

Isn't that the head design that was shown on Scourge's instructions way back at his release?

Ratbat does look pretty tidy actually, Id buy one should they ever appear over the pond here in the U.K. as paying something like £35/£45 for a Deluxe delivered would be crazy for a repaint.
Nice though but some decent pictures without advertising blurb all over them would be better...

*sighs* Can no one transform that wing/cape assembly properly? Yeesh. Still, Ratbat is a great redeco for that mold. Especially with the wings transformed properly. Smooth move, TakaraTomy. Smooth indeed. Grimlock, you suck. Get off my screen.

ratbat better come to the states.

As soon as BBTS gets their preorders up, these are mine. I just cancelled my preorder for Hasbro's version of Grimlock.

Ratbat looks amazing with that paint job (much like the United version of Scourge did).

FYI, if Ratbat does come to the US, it won't have that shiny metallic purple paint. It will be the typical drab plastic.

Ratbat is beautiful.

Autobot032 wrote:*sighs* Can no one transform that wing/cape assembly properly? Yeesh. Still, Ratbat is a great redeco for that mold. Especially with the wings transformed properly. Smooth move, TakaraTomy. Smooth indeed. Grimlock, you suck. Get off my screen.

Everybody likes the wings tilted down to resemble G1 Scourge. If the transformation only allowed the "proper" straight winged look the figure would have been an epic fail.

On Ratbat, it's a big maybe. I kind of like the Target repaint better. That mold makes the character more unique while this mold really just makes him a purple Scourge.

Ratbat looks great!!
not sure if i want to spend 65 bucks for Grimlock. I thought the USD-YEN conversion rates has been getting better? bet these e-tailers are just ripping us off...

I think Ratbat is a great idea for a repaint of that mold, but I'm not paying over 30 bucks for it.

I'm sure it will use the alternate head that was revealed on Scourge's instruction sheet:

El Duque wrote:I'm sure it will use the alternate head that was revealed on Scourge's instruction sheet:

Indeed!

How long ago was it that we first saw that head reported here? Two, three years, maybe? Something like that?

And it's TakaraTomy throwing the curve ball this time around. In fact, a Classics-style mold in a mostly WFC/FOC-based line? They've got a nice sized gearbox.

Thing is, this will influence my decision of a humanoid Ratbat: the Universe 2008 one, based on Cybertron Sideways, or this one?

Doesn't anybody find it ironic Ratbat's now really connected to Scourge via BotCon 2009 Scourge?

I hope that TakaraTomy starts also a Toy campaign where they bring more IDW comic characters out like Senator Ratbat. And for TakaraTomy FOC Grimlock, I hope he comes with his red hips and not like the Hasbro one with the light yellow which doesn't be so accurate from the game...

Grimlock is cool.

Ratbat is an EASY pass for me. Repainting is not creative, just lazy although I am impressed they waited that long to re-use the mold.

Honestly, I cant say Im a big fan of Senator Ratbat, Energon Ravage, or any other animal character getting re-purposed as a humaniod robot that talks. Im still trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on the Target repaint let alone this one.

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double post. please remove or let us delete our own posts already

Rated X wrote:Honestly, I cant say Im a big fan of Senator Ratbat, Energon Ravage, or any other animal character getting re-purposed as a humaniod robot that talks. Im still trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on the Target repaint let alone this one.

Same here. The only one I liked was Ravage in Beast Wars.

That said, I am getting this, but just who exactly he'll be on my shelf remains to be seen. Perhaps one of the Sweeps who used to be a purple jet and decided to get his old color scheme back? Or maybe a Sweep who was formerly an Insecticon and decided to get a new paint job to look more like his old self again?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it's TakaraTomy throwing the curve ball this time around. In fact, a Classics-style mold in a mostly WFC/FOC-based line? They've got a nice sized gearbox.

Thing is, this will influence my decision of a humanoid Ratbat: the Universe 2008 one, based on Cybertron Sideways, or this one?

Doesn't anybody find it ironic Ratbat's now really connected to Scourge via BotCon 2009 Scourge?

Now thats another Cybertron mold I would like, especially in the Ratbat deco!
Seems we are starting to see more and more originally smaller character from the animal community being given a humanoid body to play with?
Ravage, Laserbeak, Ratbat! Any more?