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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:52 am

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Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Out of curiosity, what would you like to see more/less of in the franchise? I just want to know where you're coming from.



Less reliance on the past. It has been nearly four decades and there have been massively successful series that prove rigid devotion to G1 isn't needed to sell Transformers. The franchise sells itself if the writing, marketing and design are upto the challenge. Less Ratchet, Ironhide, Bumblebee etc More Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Rattrap and all the other New characters that have been successfully launched in the past few decades.

It is funny, to look at the Takara Series, they did just that back in the late 80's. Culled all the old faces away. As I've said before it is really odd that in a franchise that is 36 years old, some people are far too fixated on the first three years. Does James Bond stick to revamping the Sean Connery era? Does Doctor Who fixate on the First Doctor? Does the Gundam franchise stick to Mobile Suit Gundam? The X-Men on the Original Five? No is the answer to all those things and these series have been around a lot longer than Transformers.

TL:DR Respect the past, but don't slavishly try to emulate it forever.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby ScottyP » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:58 am

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ScottyP wrote:Well, it at least looks better than the Prime Wars trilogy. Who's the voice of Optimus here? It sounds off.


Yeah it's the guy who voices Prime on Cyberverse.
It is? Oh, nice. He's definitely gotten better in this season of Cyberverse, enabling Optimus to emote better and have a more diverse emotional range now that he's been put into more non-war situations.
I don't mind him in Cyberverse but something sounds off about it here, to me. It's probably the setting.

There's a segment of the fandom that won't accept substitutes for Cullen and Welker. While I don't personally have that opinion, with the amount of potential eyeballs on this series I think it's a misstep to not cast them. Also see: they spent all their money on the animation.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:23 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Out of curiosity, what would you like to see more/less of in the franchise? I just want to know where you're coming from.



Less reliance on the past. It has been nearly four decades and there have been massively successful series that prove rigid devotion to G1 isn't needed to sell Transformers. The franchise sells itself if the writing, marketing and design are upto the challenge. Less Ratchet, Ironhide, Bumblebee etc More Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Rattrap and all the other New characters that have been successfully launched in the past few decades.

It is funny, to look at the Takara Series, they did just that back in the late 80's. Culled all the old faces away. As I've said before it is really odd that in a franchise that is 36 years old, some people are far too fixated on the first three years. Does James Bond stick to revamping the Sean Connery era? Does Doctor Who fixate on the First Doctor? Does the Gundam franchise stick to Mobile Suit Gundam? The X-Men on the Original Five? No is the answer to all those things and these series have been around a lot longer than Transformers.

TL:DR Respect the past, but don't slavishly try to emulate it forever.

Funny to think that Hot Shot is just a renamed Bumblebee :lol: if it weren't for the fact that Hasbro lost the trademark.

Also gundam is a tricky example to use as it may not focus on the original series it does heavily rely on the original universe, the UC timeline. The last few animated works have been focused on it (Gundam The Origin, Thunderbolt Gundam, Gundam Unicorn, Gundam Hathaway Flash... I think I may be forgetting one). Now the Transformers comparison would be if Hasbro was still doing toylines or productions set in the Original Generation 1 universe. Heck if they really wanted to, Hasbro could do a Turn A Bang and insist that every alternate timeline of Transformers fiction took place in the same, massive, continuity.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:51 am

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Technically all the other examples I gave use the same timeline they had from the outset. The obvious distinction being James Bond, wherein the Daniel Craig era was a reboot of the series. Yet from Dr. No to Die Another Day was all, nebulously, the same character's journey.

The G1 toys are still using the aesthetic of the original series though. Designs for planes, cars, trucks and audio equipment that is laughably outdated. Even the concept designs of the post-Movie characters are concepts from three and a half decades ago. Nothing about them is new anymore.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby emlit » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:17 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Designs for planes, cars, trucks and audio equipment that is laughably outdated.


This is a huge issue for me.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:21 pm

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Maybe the transformers will scan their alt modes from old earth TV and when they get finally get to earth everything is new (that still won't explain their siege earth modes :>).
If the Autobot and Decepticons have to call their HQs and its the same person running it, I'll slow clap. Genlock was okay/enjoyable (boring main mech designs to begin with) so I'm doubting this will go wrong. They can turn red vs blue from comedy to uber dark and real on a dime so it might have a beast wars feel.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:48 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Well, it at least looks better than the Prime Wars trilogy. Who's the voice of Optimus here? It sounds off.


Yeah it's the guy who voices Prime on Cyberverse.
It is? Oh, nice. He's definitely gotten better in this season of Cyberverse, enabling Optimus to emote better and have a more diverse emotional range now that he's been put into more non-war situations.
I don't mind him in Cyberverse but something sounds off about it here, to me. It's probably the setting.

There's a segment of the fandom that won't accept substitutes for Cullen and Welker. While I don't personally have that opinion, with the amount of potential eyeballs on this series I think it's a misstep to not cast them. Also see: they spent all their money on the animation.

At least the initial look looks significantly better than the Prime Wars trilogy I'll give them that
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:40 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Well, it at least looks better than the Prime Wars trilogy. Who's the voice of Optimus here? It sounds off.


Yeah it's the guy who voices Prime on Cyberverse.
It is? Oh, nice. He's definitely gotten better in this season of Cyberverse, enabling Optimus to emote better and have a more diverse emotional range now that he's been put into more non-war situations.
I don't mind him in Cyberverse but something sounds off about it here, to me. It's probably the setting.

There's a segment of the fandom that won't accept substitutes for Cullen and Welker. While I don't personally have that opinion, with the amount of potential eyeballs on this series I think it's a misstep to not cast them. Also see: they spent all their money on the animation.

At least the initial look looks significantly better than the Prime Wars trilogy I'll give them that
Keep in mind that it's also a different animation studio. Whereas Machinima used the (legendary) Tatsunoko Production to (poorly) animate the Prime Wars Trilogy, Rooster Teeth are using Polygon Pictures to animate this trilogy.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby Skritz » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:00 pm

How the hell did Tatsunoko screw that up? Or was the budget 30$?
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby Avensis-Mahiya » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:02 am

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I think I might've said this before, but I loved it when Animated, Prime, and even the Bayverse gave the Cybertronians different frame types. It was new and familiar at the same time, which I respect. Constantly using G1 frame types just seems like artistic stagnation. Not a good look (pun slightly intended).

As for new faces in the franchise, I'm down for that. The thing, I feel, is striking a balance between new and old in a way that doesn't alienate either camp. New fans and old fans are both necessary for the longevity of a franchise.

I actually enjoy Transformers Victory and other G1 sub-branches, and yeah, I'd like to see more of that.
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby o.supreme » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:52 pm

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ok, so I haven't watched the trailer frame-by-frame...but with the toys staring to come out, is Elita-1 so far the only character in-show that isn't in the toy line? (I'm talking about Siege overall, not just the Netflix repaints)
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Re: New Transformers Netflix Series Coming in 2020

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:57 pm

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o.supreme wrote:ok, so I haven't watched the trailer frame-by-frame...but with the toys staring to come out, is Elita-1 so far the only character in-show that isn't in the toy line? (I'm talking about Siege overall, not just the Netflix repaints)

Bumblebee isn't either
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