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Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:36 am
by SirSoundwaveIV
Shot in the frickin dark, but what about Sentinel? Could just be a copy Megatron created or whatever (and Optimus, being a Prime, would realize this) Sort of out there but I wouldn't completely discount it.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:41 am
by Kiyza
The show's staff mentioned that they didn't have any plans for Ironhide to be in the series earlier last year, despite a toy being made of him, so it's doubtful it's Ironhide. If he winds up in the series, I wouldn't expect him to crop up until the third season. I wouldn't be completely surprised if it turned out to be Grimlock, since judging by that, he's probably more likely than Ironhide. The Decepticon is most likely Dreadwing, since we know we're getting a toy of him.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:41 am
by Sabrblade
D'oh! #-o Duh! what didn't we think of this before?!

What if this new Autobot who's come searching for a Decepticon is actually the very Decepticon he's claiming to be looking for? 8-}

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:54 am
by Hypershock
Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:56 am
by Kiyza
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Shot in the frickin dark, but what about Sentinel? Could just be a copy Megatron created or whatever (and Optimus, being a Prime, would realize this) Sort of out there but I wouldn't completely discount it.


Sentinel Prime is long dead in this continuity. If he were to show up, all of the Autobots would immediately suspect that he was an imposter.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:59 am
by Sabrblade
Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree
It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:50 pm
by Hypershock
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree
It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.


o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:55 pm
by Sabrblade
Hypershock wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree
It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.


o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-
Because when Hasbro unveiled the Ironhide toy prototype, production of season 2 was already well underway and they said they had no plans for Ironhide to appear in the show at this time. If Ironhide were to eventually show up, it would probably be during season 3.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:55 pm
by Hypershock
Sabrblade wrote:D'oh! #-o Duh! what didn't we think of this before?!

What if this new Autobot who's come searching for a Decepticon is actually the very Decepticon he's claiming to be looking for? 8-}

if its not ironhide, this is actually a good theory :APPLAUSE:

however, they kind of already did that with wheeljack

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:03 pm
by Sabrblade
Hypershock wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:D'oh! #-o Duh! what didn't we think of this before?!

What if this new Autobot who's come searching for a Decepticon is actually the very Decepticon he's claiming to be looking for? 8-}

if its not ironhide, this is actually a good theory :APPLAUSE:

however, they kind of already did that with wheeljack
Well, think of it like this. New Autobot comes, says he's tracking down a Con, Team Prime are in awe of him (minus Optimus), then later, new Bot doublecrosses them and is all "You know that Con I was searching for? Well, I AM that Con! Mwahahaha! :twisted: " A way to make it work better is if he *doesn't* fail in his mission like Makeshift did, as there would be no Wheeljack-role character to foil his plans. ;)

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:10 pm
by Hypershock
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:D'oh! #-o Duh! what didn't we think of this before?!

What if this new Autobot who's come searching for a Decepticon is actually the very Decepticon he's claiming to be looking for? 8-}

if its not ironhide, this is actually a good theory :APPLAUSE:

however, they kind of already did that with wheeljack
Well, think of it like this. New Autobot comes, says he's tracking down a Con, Team Prime are in awe of him (minus Optimus), then later, new Bot doublecrosses them and is all "You know that Con I was searching for? Well, I AM that Con! Mwahahaha! :twisted: " A way to make it work better is if he *doesn't* fail in his mission like Makeshift did, as there would be no Wheeljack-role character to foil his plans. ;)

hmmmmm..... if you're right and ironhide doesnt appear, i now think that is how i want this episode to play out; and it still might happen that way too

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:12 pm
by bluecatcinema
The new Autobot could be Hot Shot.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:45 pm
by Optimus1116
It's probably Ironhide, but if not... Did anyone consider that it could be Prowl? He has cannons on his shoulders :D

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:51 pm
by Hypershock
Optimus1116 wrote:It's probably Ironhide, but if not... Did anyone consider that it could be Prowl? He has cannons on his shoulders :D
bluecatcinema wrote:The new Autobot could be Hot Shot.


Both very plausible, i like the cannon bit lolz

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:14 pm
by SlyTF1
I hope it's another Prime.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:22 pm
by Windsweeper
It would never happen but I'd love if it was Punch/Counterpunch or Repugnus.

Haven't seen the toy but is Ironhide closer to G1 or the Movie? I'd prefer if he was G1 influenced and voiced by Cullen.

I'm enjoying Prime at the moment but I really wish we had a larger cast. Not a fan of Bulkhead or Bumblebee. Cliffjumper and Wheeljack were great and looked a lot cooler but each only lasted an episode.

Pity they didn't bring Rodimus or Prowl over from Animated instead of Bulkhead. He's not a bad character, just don't like his head design.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:34 pm
by Hypershock
Windsweeper wrote:It would never happen but I'd love if it was Punch/Counterpunch or Repugnus.

Haven't seen the toy but is Ironhide closer to G1 or the Movie? I'd prefer if he was G1 influenced and voiced by Cullen.

I'm enjoying Prime at the moment but I really wish we had a larger cast. Not a fan of Bulkhead or Bumblebee. Cliffjumper and Wheeljack were great and looked a lot cooler but each only lasted an episode.

Pity they didn't bring Rodimus or Prowl over from Animated instead of Bulkhead. He's not a bad character, just don't like his head design.


Kind of both, here he is:

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Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:54 pm
by Rodimus Minor
It must Be Ironhide and Dreadwing. but I am not sure what will be the problem with Ironhide maybe the Hate Plague

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:00 pm
by Optimus1116
Perhaps the problem with Ironhide will be that he was over-shadowed by Dreadwing :shock: I do recall Skyquake being last seen in the ghost world with the humans (assuming that Skyquake becomes Dreadwing).

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:06 pm
by Rodimus Minor
Optimus1116 wrote:Perhaps the problem with Ironhide will be that he was over-shadowed by Dreadwing :shock: I do recall Skyquake being last seen in the ghost world with the humans (assuming that Skyquake becomes Dreadwing).


Dreadwing isn't Skyquake Dreadwing comes from the same Protoform mouled

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:05 pm
by SirSoundwaveIV
Kiyza wrote:
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Shot in the frickin dark, but what about Sentinel? Could just be a copy Megatron created or whatever (and Optimus, being a Prime, would realize this) Sort of out there but I wouldn't completely discount it.


Sentinel Prime is long dead in this continuity. If he were to show up, all of the Autobots would immediately suspect that he was an imposter.


Yeah, true. Also another one, maybe it's a Sideburn-esque deal from the Animated comics? Drone that shows a lot of sentience but actually created by the Decepticons to spy on the Autobots?

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:42 pm
by Ultra Markus
i hope its ultramagnus and cyclonus

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:49 pm
by PrymeStriker
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree
It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.


o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-
Because when Hasbro unveiled the Ironhide toy prototype, production of season 2 was already well underway and they said they had no plans for Ironhide to appear in the show at this time.


Yes, "At this time." And when did we see the prototype for that toy? Wasn't that at Botcon 2011? And that was in June of last year. This is merely Episode #6. Changes can be made over time, and it's possible that Episode 6 wasn't thought of yet. We can't be so matter of fact until we see some sort of visual preview. Right now we are in the Speculation Stage.

Keep in mind what we've seen at Toy Fair this year is not a prototype.

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:59 pm
by Hypershock
Gyrotron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hypershock wrote:Duuuuuuuude!!!! yep, its ironhide. also, this kind of debunks the rumor that prime doesnt get his memmory back, at least to some degree
It's not Ironhide.

And it doesn't debunk the possibility of Optimus not getting his memories back. He can still go back the Autobots and rename himself "Optimus Prime" without actually getting his memories restored.


o, i can understand te optimus bit. but how do u know it's not ironhide? -.-
Because when Hasbro unveiled the Ironhide toy prototype, production of season 2 was already well underway and they said they had no plans for Ironhide to appear in the show at this time.


Yes, "At this time." And when did we see the prototype for that toy? Wasn't that at Botcon 2011? And that was in June of last year. This is merely Episode #6. Changes can be made over time, and it's possible that Episode 6 wasn't thought of yet. We can't be so matter of fact until we see some sort of visual preview. Right now we are in the Speculation Stage.

Keep in mind what we've seen at Toy Fair this year is not a prototype.


While i do agree with that pov, sabrblade is kind of right, shows like that take a loooooong time to plot and animate, so they couldnt really work it in last second. HOWEVER, sabrblade, that they still had five to ten episodes left to air, so he could have meant that he wasnt going to be in them. Or, y'know, he could just be lying because of spoilers. Lotta shows did/do that, if anyone was a Lost fan like i am you know what im talking about

Re: New Transformers Prime Episode and Description Revealed "Loose Cannons"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:09 pm
by Hypershock
Plus, I do think that they would have at least collaborated with the show on some level, so they would have known about the ironhide toy before we did. Just because Botcon 2011 was when the prototypes were shown doesnt mean that that was the first time any of the Prime staff had seen it