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[Psychout]

I'll throw one down there. Been about 6-7 years since I had the chance to Destroy Wheelie.

[turbomagnus]

*Whimpers*
But... but... if you guys down-level to 0, who will be there to beat me senseless ('short beating'. Ha-ha. ) in cross-level missions?

[Psychout]

Don't worry. I'll leave the usual suspects at their proper levels, after all there's nothing better than giving Ol'Turbo a good beating with a toaster!

[Bun-Bun]

Besides, you Bots are so constantly outnumbered that you won't notice a few missing Cons... Or you'll have better chances. In that case

[turbomagnus]

Psych', I got a message for that toaster of yours... he cost 19.99 retail, plus tax, and was made in Taiwan!

[Overwatch]

Level down to zero?! But what about level cap? Surely no one would get down from such a high horse and willingly exploit a loophole in the game. Especially when they made such a big deal about it the last time it happened. Because exploiting loopholes against teh lawz

[Psychout]

Psych', I got a message for that toaster of yours... he cost 19.99 retail, plus tax, and was made in Taiwan!

Currently worth more than your Hearse

[Psychout]

Level down to zero?! But what about level cap? Surely no one would get down from such a high horse and willingly exploit a loophole in the game. Especially when they made such a big deal about it the last time it happened. Because exploiting loopholes against teh lawz

Loopholes such as not resetting to avoid the level cap? Who would do such a thing??

[Overwatch]

Loopholes such as not resetting to avoid the level cap? Who would do such a thing??

I bet that Tyrest guy wouldn't. He's all about making the game fair.

[turbomagnus]

Psych', I got a message for that toaster of yours... he cost 19.99 retail, plus tax, and was made in Taiwan!

Currently worth more than your Hearse

...Yeah...

Gonna have to have a talk with that 'paranormal investigator' about this. He literally attacked every Decepticon in the fight except the toaster. That won't do at all...

[S.o.L.]

You may be level one anyway, even with no upgrades if you have too much xp.

[S.o.L.]

Gonna have to have a talk with that 'paranormal investigator' about this. He literally attacked every Decepticon in the fight except the toaster. That won't do at all...

You don't attack the toaster, you play Jackie Wilson's "Higher and Higher"
+ =

[Psychout]

Actual footage of the mission...

[turbomagnus]

Gonna have to have a talk with that 'paranormal investigator' about this. He literally attacked every Decepticon in the fight except the toaster. That won't do at all...

You don't attack the toaster, you play Jackie Wilson's "Higher and Higher"
+ =

You're right, I'm going about this the wrong way...

I need a Statue of Liberty alt.

EDIT:
*starts singing...*
Your love keeps lifting me higher... than I've ever been lifted before...

[S.o.L.]

You're right, I'm going about this the wrong way...

I need a Statue of Liberty alt.

EDIT:
*starts singing...*
Your love keeps lifting me higher... than I've ever been lifted before...

Oh yeah. Looks like an Ecto-1 being sprung out of a mood slime toaster.

[Light Metal]

So boredom’s why I’ve been seeing a couple of high level players peeking into the trenches down here...

I'll throw one down there. Been about 6-7 years since I had the chance to Destroy Wheelie.

To be fair, we’d all destroy Wheelie if we could. It’s just the right thing to do.

[Bun-Bun]

Boredom and curiosity why anyone would willingly stay at level 0 when they could move up to level 1 and get real xp (even when losing) instead of slaving away for peanuts down there.

[Burn]

Boredom and curiosity why anyone would willingly stay at level 0 when they could move up to level 1 and get real xp (even when losing) instead of slaving away for peanuts down there.

Because they've been advised by "experts".

[turbomagnus]

Boredom and curiosity why anyone would willingly stay at level 0 when they could move up to level 1 and get real xp (even when losing) instead of slaving away for peanuts down there.

Because they've been advised by "experts".

Have you considered the possibility that they're just really fond of peanuts? I mean, why couldn't an elephant play HMW?

...Aaaand now I've just given myself a mental image of BW Ironhide hunched over a keyboard doing the hunt-and-peck form of typing, trying not to break anything with those big elephant feet-hands of his...

[Light Metal]

The Autobot War Academy isn’t what it used to be, and all we got was a crinkled HOW TO PLAY manual shoved into our chests. Trouble was, it was a different kind of manual. The Arcee fold-out, however, was magnificent.

What amount of xp is a good amount to make the jump to level 1? I’ve been looking through mission logs belonging to level 1 ‘Bots, and it seems pretty brutal out there on the battlefield. lol The reason I haven’t levelled up is because I want to stand half a chance and not get smashed to pieces in every mission.

[steve2275]

experiment with the core alts that you use(which you have none of) and see what happens
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... ?id=133076

[Overwatch]

Alts with a tactic costing 1000 for the first point means the earliest you can get to level 1 is 10,000xp (3 points in stats 2 into a tactic. Or vice versa). Each time a tf avoids it earns 50xp extra, so fighters are a sensible choice of alt mode early on. One or two extra upgrades means 14k to 22k. The potential for more frequent mission spawns/times and more frequent competition also means better returns over time. Plus the rare chance for a massive payout in the 1-11s.

[Redimus]

The Autobot War Academy isn’t what it used to be, and all we got was a crinkled HOW TO PLAY manual shoved into our chests. Trouble was, it was a different kind of manual. The Arcee fold-out, however, was magnificent.

What amount of xp is a good amount to make the jump to level 1? I’ve been looking through mission logs belonging to level 1 ‘Bots, and it seems pretty brutal out there on the battlefield. lol The reason I haven’t levelled up is because I want to stand half a chance and not get smashed to pieces in every mission.

There is no 'correct' time to level up. The sooner you do it, the more you'll have your ass handed to you, but there's more to it than that. Base win xp and money is better, the chances of getting more exp is better because you're attacking higher level characters and it gives you access to about the same number of missions again to what you had at lvl 0, so if there's a lot of lvl 2s in missions, but not many lvl 0s, you can deploy your 0s instead of 1s, and vica versa.

RNG is still very much God down there too, which means while you probably will get killed, a lot (especially as there are *WAY* too many bots who should be lvl 1 who aren't), you will, in all likelihood, noting a marked increase in xp gain regardless. Which means you'll get to a good lvl 1 build a lot quicker than if you just farmed xp at lvl 0.

[Bun-Bun]

Life is tough all over , man.

Even my level 2-3's still get one-shot-killed in under 30 seconds sometimes.

But without great risk there can be no big reward. What you could get grinding for weeks at 0 you can get in a day or two (depending on play time)at 1.

An example I personally know of would be the decpeticon Kick Axe.
He doesn't play much but he just recently got his first couple level 1's (biggest one is 14K) even in his worst missions (as long as he's not shut out) he's making way more than at level 0

Sure the Bots have a different situation over there but a good example of how to make it big would be Wingz. When I came back to the game a couple months ago we were around the same place XP-wise (she might have been a bit lower) but while I screwed around with various crappy builds relying on backup to pull in XP she found builds that worked for being outmanned (avoiding, repair, strafe) and by not shying away from the 1-11 missions she hit big and has greatly surpassed me.

[Light Metal]

This is great -- all very helpful. Thanks a bunch, guys.