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Rodimus Prime wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?

If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.

That's kind of a letdown. That being said, they're still great!

Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?

It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.

kirbenvost wrote:

Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?

It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.

Oy.

Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.

Sabrblade wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?

It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.

Oy.

Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.

Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the on his shoulders.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the on his shoulders.

What do you mean? I specifically said "when a Black Convoy is an Autobot". If it's a Decepticon, then it's a Decepticon.

Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.

Diem wrote:Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the on his shoulders.

What do you mean? I specifically said "when a Black Convoy is an Autobot". If it's a Decepticon, then it's a Decepticon.

What if it's an Autobot posing as a Decepticon? Punch must be nearby...

Sabrblade wrote:

Diem wrote:Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.

Well I seriously, legitimately would buy a Mastepiece Pepsi Convoy, but only because of my love of non-serious things. But I don't seriously expect them to make it.

Diem wrote:Well I seriously, legitimately would buy a Mastepiece Pepsi Convoy, but only because of my love of non-serious things. But I don't seriously expect them to make it.

Ah, sorry, I misread your post. Rereading it again, I got an entirely different message this time that now makes my image response look very weird.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?

It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.

Oy.

Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.

Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the on his shoulders.

So which one will this MP Convoy be?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?

If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.

The pile drivers can be used as bar stools.

Stormrider wrote:So which one will this MP Convoy be?

Dunno. We'll have to wait till the toy's bio comes.

Stormrider wrote:The pile drivers can be used as bar stools.

Nice, I just got an image of a hammered Rumble.

I wonder if the piledrivers will be functional or just solid props. I don't mean if they will actually cause tiny earthquakes, but can they be moved, like springloaded weapons.

I cannot wait for my soundwave. I just preordered all of these on TFSource and am waiting. Frenzy, buzzsaw, ravage, and rumble look outstanding i hope for a ratbat and autoscout. Long Live !

Well, of course I pre-ordered the cassettes ASAP because new MP figures trigger a Pavlovian response from me. But, after much fence-sitting, I've also order Fort Max, very very much against my financial self-interest. Lately I've been collecting teams of G1 micromasters, mainly because they can be found on the cheap (also I like the mystique of characters without firmly established G1 cannon), and coupled with Fort Max, they could really give him the city-scale he deserves. Maybe I should start collecting WST too? This is how things get out of hand.