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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Dean ML » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:04 am

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Yeah, I have the MP-12 reissue on pre-order.

Plus, ordered a KO MP-14 from eBay. (will get an original one if they'll tweak the shoulders and doors in line with the cartoon model. White thighs would also be nice.)


I hear you about Red Alert. I'm sure we'll never get a retool with the doors hanging off his shoulders, but his thighs should definitely be the same silver used on his forearms and feet. Still, he's definitely good enough to be essential to my MP collection. At least TT stepped up with the tweaks they made to differentiate Bluestreak and Smokescreen from Prowl.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:38 am

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Dean ML wrote:Why does Hasbro insist on being different from TT for the sake of being different, giving us changes that absolutely no one asks for?
I hear ya, and I don't like it either.

Best guess I can think of for why they do it is this. They probably assume that the target audience of consumers who will buy the Hasbro Masterpiece toys will have already bought the TakaraTomy Masterpiece versions by the time Hasbro releases their versions, and so feel the need to make the Hasbro ones different enough to give these fans enough of a reason to buy Hasbro's MPs on top of the Takara MPs Hasbro assumes the fans will have already bought. Otherwise, Hasbro probably figures that the Hasbro MPs won't sell of they're too similar to Takara's MPs since they feel the fans wouldn't want to buy more than one of the exact same super expensive toy if they're not that different enough from each other.

The problem with Hasbro thinking like that (if they do, that is) is that there are a LOT of fans who choose not to go for the Takara MPs in hopes that Hasbro would release their own versions, hoping for a less expensive alternative to getting the MP molds Takara makes. And people seem to really dig the show-accuracy of the Takara MPs, but still hope for Hasbro to release their own so as to not spend quite as much money on import prices. Hasbro needs to realize that it's the show-accuracy of the Takara MPs that people really like, and those who wait for Hasbro's MP versions want to see that show-accuracy reflected in the Hasbro MPs so as to not need to purchase the Takara MPs.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Cyberpath » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 am

I think it's strictly that they want to be a little different from Takara, just because.
Why yellow? Probably an homage to the G1 toys.

I don't like it either.

Dean ML wrote:I hear you about Red Alert. I'm sure we'll never get a retool with the doors hanging off his shoulders, but his thighs should definitely be the same silver used on his forearms and feet. Still, he's definitely good enough to be essential to my MP collection. At least TT stepped up with the tweaks they made to differentiate Bluestreak and Smokescreen from Prowl.
Considering what great job they did with the Nissan trio I wouldn't be surprised if Takara went back and tweaked Red Alert to perfection someday. Maybe when they'll get to the 2nd season characters.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:25 am

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Yea, Grimlock is also more toy accurate than toy accurate, and just like Rodimus they actually tompographed some of the original sticker designs on him, which stand out like a b*tch.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Dean ML » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:30 pm

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Dean ML wrote:Why does Hasbro insist on being different from TT for the sake of being different, giving us changes that absolutely no one asks for?
I hear ya, and I don't like it either.

Best guess I can think of for why they do it is this. They probably assume that the target audience of consumers who will buy the Hasbro Masterpiece toys will have already bought the TakaraTomy Masterpiece versions by the time Hasbro releases their versions, and so feel the need to make the Hasbro ones different enough to give these fans enough of a reason to buy Hasbro's MPs on top of the Takara MPs Hasbro assumes the fans will have already bought. Otherwise, Hasbro probably figures that the Hasbro MPs won't sell of they're too similar to Takara's MPs since they feel the fans wouldn't want to buy more than one of the exact same super expensive toy if they're not that different enough from each other.

The problem with Hasbro thinking like that (if they do, that is) is that there are a LOT of fans who choose not to go for the Takara MPs in hopes that Hasbro would release their own versions, hoping for a less expensive alternative to getting the MP molds Takara makes. And people seem to really dig the show-accuracy of the Takara MPs, but still hope for Hasbro to release their own so as to not spend quite as much money on import prices. Hasbro needs to realize that it's the show-accuracy of the Takara MPs that people really like, and those who wait for Hasbro's MP versions want to see that show-accuracy reflected in the Hasbro MPs so as to not need to purchase the Takara MPs.


Makes sense to me. I also wonder if Hasbro and TT have some kind of agreement to minimize competition between their products by differentiating through decos. I'm all about show accuracy, though. In fact, after finally finishing the three Japanese G1 seasons and restarting with Sunbow's season 1, seeing a silver Roller on the screen and having a blue Roller on my shelf is really bugging me. Same with my Hasbro Prime's yellow lights, which were red on the show. Those eyes are his saving grace. Which is also why I ended up spending $100 more for TT's MP Soundwave. Gotta have those red eyes.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:18 pm

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Dean ML wrote:I'm all about show accuracy, though. In fact, after finally finishing the three Japanese G1 seasons and restarting with Sunbow's season 1, seeing a silver Roller on the screen and having a blue Roller on my shelf is really bugging me. Same with my Hasbro Prime's yellow lights, which were red on the show. Those eyes are his saving grace. Which is also why I ended up spending $100 more for TT's MP Soundwave. Gotta have those red eyes.
This is exactly why I'm glad I'm a fan of both the cartoons and the comics, since the old Marvel Comics tended to stick with toy colors (i.e. - yellow eyes for Optimus and Soundwave, blue Roller, etc.) and so I feel I can pick and choose which versions of which characters I want to use the MP toys to represent.

Like, my Hasbro MP Soundwave will be Marvel Soundwave for me not just because of the yellow visor, but because Marvel Soundwave freaking rocked! So much more than his lifeless-by-comparison cartoon self. It was thanks to Marvel that I finally understood why the character was so well loved and why so many fans wanted him in the Hall of Fame so much. His cartoon self never really struck a chord for me, but his comic self (especially in the UK comics) helped me to understand him so much more. 8)
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Stormrider » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:20 pm

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MP Sideswipe is stamped "Tomy" on the bottom. Is the omission of Hasbro from the stamp indicate that MP Sideswipe will be released by TakaraTomy only?
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:28 pm

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Stormrider wrote:MP Sideswipe is stamped "Tomy" on the bottom. Is the omission of Hasbro from the stamp indicate that MP Sideswipe will be released by TakaraTomy only?
Aren't all of the TakaraTomy versions of the MPs like that?
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Masterpiece Prowl News: Images of Collector's Coin

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:24 am

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What a nice surprise to wake up to in the morning! TransformersAsia has shared an image of the collector's coin that will come packaged with the highly anticipated Masterpiece Prowl figure. Aptly, the coin resembles the badge of a law enforcer. Image are below.

Get this special design exclusive commemorative coin free when purchase “Masterpiece MP-17 ”Prowl" at selected stores in Asia, while supplies Last !


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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

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Here is a small update for MP-17 Prowl for you. Transformersasia.com has updated with the exclusive coin that comes with the Asian version of MP Prowl. For those of you collecting these coins, this will be the next to add to your collection.

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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Suz » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:06 am

Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, 84-Prowl was a rather sophisticated toy in its day, but very brittle. He also broke in half.

I like the new pic.
He did? I remember Mirage always breaking in half. I remember Prowl, Bluestreak, & Smokescreen's roof and rear windows breaking.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:02 pm

Suz wrote:He did? I remember Mirage always breaking in half. I remember Prowl, Bluestreak, & Smokescreen's roof and rear windows breaking.
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And the wings... Poor guy.

Oh well, the MP-17 is coming soon!
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby ScottyP » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:21 pm

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Never ever had an issue with a G1 Datsun breaking. Several friends had them too, back in the day, and no problems either. Guess it's all luck!

So for those of you with HLJ preorders as well, are we expecting any day now?!
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:58 am

ScottyP wrote:Never ever had an issue with a G1 Datsun breaking. Several friends had them too, back in the day, and no problems either. Guess it's all luck!

So for those of you with HLJ preorders as well, are we expecting any day now?!
Apparently Prowl was pushed back to Sep 28, and Bluestreak to Oct 26.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 am

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ScottyP wrote:Never ever had an issue with a G1 Datsun breaking. Several friends had them too, back in the day, and no problems either. Guess it's all luck!

So for those of you with HLJ preorders as well, are we expecting any day now?!
Apparently Prowl was pushed back to Sep 28, and Bluestreak to Oct 26.


I have my perorders with HLJ. When was it announced that it was pushed back?
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:33 pm

Cyberpath wrote:Apparently Prowl was pushed back to Sep 28, and Bluestreak to Oct 26.

mooncake623 wrote:I have my perorders with HLJ. When was it announced that it was pushed back?

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/mp17-prowl-and-mp18-bluestreak-delayed/27158/
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby El Duque » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:42 am

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Takara Tomy staff designer Shogo Hasui has tweeted an image of their upcoming Transformers Masterpiece Nissan trio MP-17 Prowl, MP-18 Bluestreak, MP-19 Smokescreen. Prowl is due out late this month, followed by Bluestreak in October, and Smokescreen in December. Check out the image below.

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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:52 am

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I like how they positioned the shoulder cannons on each show-accurately, with Prowl being the only one with no cannons deployed. :D
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby megatronus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:19 am

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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:35 am

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megatronus wrote:The suspense is actually killing me.

Who's left for the '84 lineup?
Hound
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Trailbreaker

Cliff (Cliffjumper)
Gong (Brawn)
Gears
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A smaller Megatron

Bumble (Bumblebee) and Wheeljack are already confirmed.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Craver2707 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:41 am

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megatronus wrote:The suspense is actually killing me.

Who's left for the '84 lineup?
Hound
Ironhide
Jazz
Ligier (Mirage)
Ratchet
Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker

Cliff (Cliffjumper)
Gong (Brawn)
Gears
Charger (Windcharger)
Drag (Huffer)

A smaller Megatron

Bumble (Bumblebee) and Wheeljack are already confirmed.

I just wonder, if and when, they get to Hound if he'll be a Wrangler or a Willys. Or if they even mess with him considering the level of awesome that the Binaltech was.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby megatronus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:49 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Hound
Ironhide
Jazz
Ligier (Mirage)
Ratchet
Sunstreaker
Trailbreaker

Cliff (Cliffjumper)
Gong (Brawn)
Gears
Charger (Windcharger)
Drag (Huffer)
Thanks! This is a great list to have.

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No Shockwave or Reflector? :-?

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I preordered these guys the very day preorders were posted. Huzzah!
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:56 am

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megatronus wrote:No Shockwave or Reflector? :-?
They weren't toys released in 1984.
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Re: MP Prowl & Streak - Official Images

Postby megatronus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:00 am

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megatronus wrote:No Shockwave or Reflector? :-?
They weren't toys released in 1984.

Ahhh - I see the confusion. When I say '84 lineup, I'm generally referring to the cartoon.
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They weren't toys released in 1984.


Reflector was released in the first year in Japan, 1985. The US had to wait another year :P
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