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by **Hypershock** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:19 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I could have sworn I responded.

Rated X wrote:Don’t you see a pattern here that just doesn’t seem right for a “wild card” ? Then to top it all off Takara changes Onslaught back to G1 colors to resemble the Hasbro retail version which is basically G1. My question is why not change Vortex too ? You got a G1 vibe going on with a piss arm.
Because Onslaught WAS blue in the game. He only changed to gray when he turned into Bruticus' torso. Hasbro SDCC went went a pro-Bruticus torso deco while Takra went with a pro-Onslaught deco, thus making Takara Bruticus's torso be less gamee-accurate than the Hasbro version.

Rated X wrote:I guess this is a sore spot for me because I don’t have a FOC shelf. I have a Golden Age of Cybertron classics shelf with certain FOC molds incorporated as stand ins. I plan to use FOC Bruticus as a centerpiece as the “renegade Decepticons” the Combaticons were referred to as in “Starscream’s Brigade”. So I need my grey Vortex. I might use metallic silver and blue and a lot of gloss on a Hasbro version. That will look nice…
I think an easier way to look at these figures is not to see them as their G1 selves since, well, they aren't meant to be. It's alright if wanted to repurpose the toys as being the G1 counterparts, that's cool. But does it really make that big of a difference for the "Renegade Decepticons" to not all have had the same color schemes as the bodies that Starscream built for them? I mean, is it really that impossible to imagine Vortex having gotten a new color when he changed bodies? I mean, Brawl was put into the gray body of B.O.T. temporarily, but he was still the same guy even though that body he was in was colored nothing like his regular body.

Rated X wrote:And everyone in my group of chairs booed. Piss color on maroon was just an ugly choice that makes no sense historically or logically. Unless somebody either made a mistake or wanted to be funny.
OR unless they wanted to differentiate him from G1 Vortex. None of these guys HAD to be in G1 colors, but some were and some weren't. Why, Swindle was golden orange in G1 but FOC Swindle is tan. And FOC Blast Off is gold while G1 Blast Off was mostly purple and brown. And FOC Onslaught's already got his aforementioned color shifting weirdness between his combined and non-combined forms. The only one whose really colored G1 would be Brawl, but even then it's the wrong shade of green (G1 Brawl was olive green rtaher than FOC Brawl's forest green).

I just watched those G1 episodes :lol:

I was wondering when someone was gonna point out that none of them really are 100% g1 colored....... :BOWDOWN:

by **Rated X** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:11 pm

No matter how you sugarcoat it, four out of the five members were shades of their G1 colors. Maybe a little, darker, lighter, greyish, metallic, etc. Bus still the same basic color concept. Vortex was the only one that was extremly different color wise.

Im an all or nothing type of guy. Either change them all or leave them all alone. They already got an extreme makeover. The G1 colors are the only thing left that connects them to the G1 names. Take that away, and Hasbro might as well start just creating new characters and forget the homages. Last time I checked FOC was being released under the "Generations" line. Not Bayverse/TF Prime where Arcee is blue, Ratchet is green, Ironhide is black, etc. And even those 3 molds ended up getting G1 color accurate repaints for the fans. Everybody keeps avoiding the question, why not Vortex ???

And Im liking the idea of using the Whirl repaint. Maybe a kitbash with the Whirl helicopter parts with the purple limbs on from the Hasbro version. Maybe some blue dye can even be used to make the limbs more G1. Im feeling it...

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:11 pm

Rated X wrote:Last time I checked FOC was being released under the "Generations" line.

Yeah, so? That's an all encompassing line for the various generations of Transformers, including those of today. The Prime First Edition figures were even gonna be released in the Generations line at first before it was decided to give them their own packaging.

Rated X wrote:Not Bayverse/TF Prime

TF: Prime isn't Bayverse. Every backstory episode it's had has called back to War for Cybertron, which has no ties to the Movieverse.

Rated X wrote:where Arcee is blue, Ratchet is green, Ironhide is black, etc.

Ratchet and Ironhide aren't those colors in TF: Prime, and Arcee's pink the Movieverse (her blue Target toy never appeared in the fiction).

Rated X wrote:And even those 3 molds ended up getting G1 color accurate repaints for the fans. Everybody keeps avoiding the question, why not Vortex ???

Well... maybe they simply don't want to. Maybe they find the gray too drab or boring looking or something. Maybe they simply liked this new brighter deco better.

Or maybe this deco came from the Binder and so they had no choice but to use it. :-?

Rated X wrote:And Im liking the idea of using the Whirl repaint. Maybe a kitbash with the Whirl helicopter parts with the purple limbs on from the Hasbro version. Maybe some blue dye can even be used to make the limbs more G1. Im feeling it...

Funny thing about Whirl, he looks more like an homage to RiD Ro-Tor.