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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 14, 2020 10:46 pm

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Skritz wrote:So wait is Primus calling some rainbow-hued Lantern Corps of Primes/Convoys redecos?
It looks like this manga is continuing what was started in the e-HOBBY Magna Convoy manga in which Bludgeon was watching monitors that showed "The warriors who have inherited the Seven Lights divided from "The One"," and with this we see those seven groups each led by a Convoy or a Prime (the text uses either name for certain ones) and each possessing the White Matrix, the Green Matrix, the Red Matrix, the Yellow Matrix, the Black Matrix/Black Legendisc, the Purple Matrix, and the Silver Matrix of the Blue Corps.


Another thing of note is that it looks like this manga has officially retconned TFTM by claiming that Unicron specifically used Angolmois Energy to upgrade Megatron and his fallen troops into Galvatron and Friends. This... actually isn't quite a new idea since, back in Beast Wars II, when Megastorm was upgraded into Gigastorm via Angolmois Energy, the same grid-based visual effect that accompanied Megatron's upgrade into Galvatron during the movie was also used for Megastorm's upgrade. This comic is just streamlining the similarities of those two events by making them both having used the same energy.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Thu May 14, 2020 10:57 pm

Btw judging at the thematic of each pic, I'd say 'Yellow Convoy' (the RiD2001 recolor) is female, as we have a precedent for that deco being a female Optimus Prime. As it happen, the two bots of her team in the back are also female. Seems like it all ties together.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu May 14, 2020 11:58 pm

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I'm guessing that those Straxus-es are responsible for making the Blues go crazy at the start there, considering they abscond with Megatron?

So these new Lantern Prime Corps here consist of:
- Green Lantern Convoy (Beast Tracker OP from Prime Beast Hunters): A small army of just Bulkheads
- White Lantern Convoy (Combiner Wars Battle Core OP): Police-affiliated white characters/repaints (Prowls, Checkpoint, Protectobots, etc.)
- Atrocitus Red Convoy (Titans Return Sentinel): Prime repaints that were still red (Cybertronian Knight Ginrai, etc.)
- Sinestro Yellow Convoy (Universe RiD OP/"Shotimus" Prime): Yellow female characters (Trickdiamond, Blackarachnia, Animated Elita, Misha from Energon)
- Black Lantern Convoy (Go Prime, I'm assuming based on his prevalence in the shots): Deadlock and various Nemesis Primes
- Indigo 1 Convoy (Shattered Glass Prime, I think based off the Masterpiece?): Shockwaves and Pretenders (including Meltdown's Pretender-based test subjects from Animated)

...and now Hardshell's crew stole all their Macguffins (except the Blue, Silver, and Indigo Matrixes, which I assume Megatron has/is retrieving, unless Star Convoy/Optimus still has the Blue Matrix?) and is there to...fight Primus? Cause mindless wanton destruction? Claim whatever Matrix Optimus maybe still has? Pose in the sky there for 20 minutes? Does anyone know?

(No I couldn't resist with the Green Lantern comparisons, thanks for asking)
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 15, 2020 8:36 am

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So, let's see...

  • White Matrix = Matrix Saber from Arms Master Optimus of the Japanese Prime toyline
  • Green Matrix = Creation Matrix from Galvatron II, the e-HOBBY G1 mold reissue
  • Red Matrix = the foldable version of the Energon Matrix that came with Encore Big Convoy (Matrix Buster Ver.)
  • Yellow Matrix = POTP Predaking's Onyx Matrix, plus Golden Lagoon Starscream's yellow POTP combiner hand
  • Black Matrix/Black Legendisc = Generations Fall of Cybertron Ravage in Data Disc mode
  • Purple Matrix = not seen but is presumably the one that SG MP-10 comes with; unless... unless the Gari Robo-kun grape popsicle is it
  • Blue Matrix = Blue Big Convoy's Alpha Matrix
  • Silver Matrix = the one that comes with Star Convoy
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 15, 2020 8:45 am

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English summary of the first chapter:
With the theft of the Blue Matrix, Primus alerts the other colored Orders of the Primus Vanguard to defend their respective Matrices from Megatron Omega, for if he gets all seven, all is lost for this universe...

On the Blue Planet, the Blue Order is torn asunder, its members driven to attack each other by the program secretly implanted into them by one of the group's Straxuses. Blue realizes the betrayal, and the other Straxus—Director Straxus—mocks him and explains that the previous commander, Brightes, shouldn't have passed him over for Supreme Commander in favor of Blue. Refusing to dirty his hands by harming his comrades, Blue stabs himself with the Matrix Sword, but the amused Straxus just takes it and offers his services to Megatron Omega so that the other Orders and Primus's ambitions can be destroyed.

Left behind, Turtler moans about his inability to stand up to the villains, but is bemused when the planet's native Beast People thank him for saving them. Primus explains to Star Convoy that, while the members of the Blue Order have perished, their sparks will be stored in his Ark and pass on to the next incarnation of the universe, which is why he led Galvatron to this universe (although Blue's spark is mysteriously absent). Turtler alerts Star Convoy to a more immediate mystery: the absence of Halfshell from the crashed photon sailer...

At the White Planet,White Gallant Convoy is alerted to an invading turtle—Halfshell! The Seacon is here for his White Matrix! The Green Planet faces a similar invasion as Sea Phantom seeks to take the Green Matrix from Green Tender Convoy.


And the second chapter:
The Seacons continue their attacks on the various planets of the Primus Vanguard's colored Orders. At the Red Planet, Red Sentinel Prime attempts to fell Terrormander with his Red Matrix-powered Matrix Buster, but it's of no use. Scylla makes landing at the Yellow Planet, where she introduces herself to the other girls and uses her Angolmois Kiss of Death to take the Yellow Matrix from Yellow Splendid Convoy. The Black Planet is defended by Deadlock, who has been studying under Black Go Prime to become a Swordbot. Black recognizes his foe, Coelagon, from his time in the Seacon's world. Coelagon explains that he's here for the Black Matrix, also known as the time-controlling Black Legendisc.

There aren't enough Seacons to go around, though, and the Purple Planet stays uninvaded. They still have visitors in the form of the Straxuses and Ultra Megatron Omega, so Purple Wicked Convoy proposes that they combine the power of the Purple, Blue, and Silver Matrices to defeat all of their enemies and take over the universe.

On the Blue Planet, Primus is alerted to the Seacons' attacks on the Warriors of Lights. A Beast Person explains to a confused Star Convoy that all of the Warriors are robots who defend life throughout the universe as part of the Primus Vanguard. The Beast introduces herself as Lune and also amusingly explains that "Convoy" means the same thing as "Supreme Commander" here. Star Convoy recognizes one of the Seacons as Halfshell, and Primus explains that he's been changed by the god-rivaling power of Angolmois Energy, which can allow one to change their or others' form and even resurrect the dead. This revelation is cue for Primacron to barge in and berate Primus for using his creation, bringing it from the future and having it proliferate in this universe. Primacron wants to know just what Primus, or, rather, the Oracle is planning...

There's not much time to talk, as the Seacons arrive with all of the different Matrices and combine into the mighty God Neptune! With the Power of Stars, God Neptune seeks to make his creation just as somebody else wishes...
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat May 30, 2020 3:36 pm

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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:50 am

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Two more chapters! Plus English summaries from the Wiki.

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810153207/comics_second-vol01.pdf
On the White Planet, several hours before Halfshell's attack, White drives through the town greeting the denizens before arriving at the White Order's base. There, he's alerted to the battle between Super Megatron and Star Convoy on the Blue Planet, but decides that the Blue Order can handle it—the White Order's duty belongs on their planet. Nevertheless, White is engrossed in Star Convoy's heroism, realizing that the visitor Primus told him of is himself in the next life...

Having gathered five of the Primus Vanguard's Matrices, God Neptune sets out to use their power to take the Purple Matrix and the Silver Matrix (carrying the blue Star Power of the α Matrix beside its own) from Megatron Omega and Purple. Megatron attempts to blast the Seacon combiner, but God Neptune is unfazed. Straxus takes a swipe with the Matrix Sword, but is disarmed by God Neptune retaliating with the Matrix Saber. The Matrix Sword isn't without surprises, and Blue's spirit emanates from it, revealing that he put a portion of his spark into the sword when he committed suicide. Blue links to the Matrix Buster to give God Neptune a good blast, and Yellow, Green, and Black arrive to restrain God Neptune. White leaps into action in his "White Convoy Grand Prime" mode, but the entire endeavor ends in White being bisected by God Neptune's Neptune Sword.

Grabbing the opportunity, Megatron Omega converts into a new mode that combines with Purple's trailer and ruthlessly shoots the combiner with Angolmois Energy, breaking him apart. Desperate, Halfshell calls Turtler for help, but his plea is interrupted when Megatron Omega broadcasts Halfshell's unkind words about his "brother" from earlier in the photon sailer.

https://takaratomymall.jp/img/goods/4904810153207/comics_second-vol02.pdf
Having watched Halfshell's insults toward him, Turtler turns his back on his "brother", disappointed that his comrade turned out to be as disdainful as everyone else. Now alone, the miserable Halfshell cries and laughs at his despair; looking at his felled crew, Halfshell thinks back to a similar scenario...

Before and elsewhere, the Seacons, betrayed by Duncan, have been left for dead in space. Halfshell mourns new member Lowbhammer in particular when a mysterious, shadowed robot arrives. He offers to revive the Seacons... but only if they do as he says. The mysterious being takes Lowbhammer as collateral and sends Halfshell to 2020 to pick up Turtler.

Halfshell moans at what he's been brought down to—a crewmember being a hostage, violating pirate law, and deceiving his brother. In response, a voice emanates from the Neptune Sword... White! White explains that he placed his soul within the sword and gives the Seacon captain words of encouragement. Nearby, Megatron Omega attempts to absorb the Star Power of the five Matrices God Neptune brought, but he finds his head smashed in with the Neptune Sword. Halfshell takes the Star Power for himself, reforming God Neptune and cleaving Megatron in half. The Straxuses worry about their bisected master, but their concern is unnecessary as Megatron absorbs their energies to reform himself. With an inhuman voice, Megatron Omega declares that this is the form that banished the humans from Earth in the future... Megatron Omega: Perfect Form.

On the Blue Planet, Primus explains that he's out to foil Primacron's plans and calls Primitive warriors to him!

Other notices:

BotBots! There are BotBots in this manga now!

White Convoy's trailer is that of Energon Optimus.

The five Matrices that God Neptune stole for "somebody" in the last part are named here like so:
  • White Matrix: Matrix Saber
  • Red Matrix: Matrix Buster
  • Yellow Matrix: Matrix Gauntlet
  • Green Matrix: Creation Matrix
  • Black Matrix: Black Legendisc

White Convoy's combined form, White Convoy Grand Prime, is comprised of CW Battle Core Optimus, UW/CW Groove, CW Rook, UW Prowl, and UW Streewise.

Both White Convoy Grand Prime and Megatron Omega have organic-looking brains like Predaking had in the Transformers: Zone episode.

Megatron Omega set himself on Purple Convoy's Container (his trailer) for a Power Up called SF Battery Mode.

Lowbhammer is a redeco of G1 Lobclaw/Nautilator, finally completing that BWII Seacon team.

The shadowy being Halfshell makes a deal with during the flashback kinda looks like Unicron, but it's probably just a Vok/Dark Nova.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:01 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Lowbhammer is a redeco of G1 Lobclaw/Nautilator, finally completing that BWII Seacon team.


Gotta love transliterating English nonsense names. Wouldn't "Rovehammer" be better, at least in looks?
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:30 pm

Megatron in this comic is basically "This isn't even my final form!". Now I wish he had more 5mm ports so, when the toy come out, people can stack weaponizers on him.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:54 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Sabrblade wrote:The shadowy being Halfshell makes a deal with during the flashback kinda looks like Unicron, but it's probably just a Vok/Dark Nova.


Can't really tell from just his/her mouth, can you?
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:11 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The shadowy being Halfshell makes a deal with during the flashback kinda looks like Unicron, but it's probably just a Vok/Dark Nova.


Can't really tell from just his/her mouth, can you?
I'm mostly just guessing based on how we previously saw Dark Nova's tentacles and forces attacking this primordial universe back in the Star Convoy chapter, and how Primus explained in another chapter that this universe is destined to later be destroyed by the Vok so that the present universe can come into being. God Neptune's gathering all the Matrices for this guy, and which doing so would lead to this universe's destruction, so the Vok/Dark Nova are my current suspect for this being.

TFWiki, meanwhile, is guessing that it might be Scorponok.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:09 pm

So I was wondering: who are 'The Primitives' in that manga? The strip end with Primus calling upon them, hinting its some kind of big deal and might be the setup for a reveal of a next SELECTS figure or set of figures, maybe? Or am I reading too much into this? Hmmm. :-?
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:11 pm

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Skritz wrote:So I was wondering: who are 'The Primitives' in that manga? The strip end with Primus calling upon them, hinting its some kind of big deal and might be the setup for a reveal of a next SELECTS figure or set of figures, maybe? Or am I reading too much into this? Hmmm. :-?


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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:13 pm

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Skritz wrote:So I was wondering: who are 'The Primitives' in that manga? The strip end with Primus calling upon them, hinting its some kind of big deal and might be the setup for a reveal of a next SELECTS figure or set of figures, maybe? Or am I reading too much into this? Hmmm. :-?


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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:01 pm

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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:17 pm

As much as I am fond of my CW Liokaiser, I'm not gonna lie he's a design that if Takara redid I would totally jump on board for a better remake even if it lacked Jallguar. That said, I don't really see Liokaiser making sense in this scenario. They call them 'The Primitives' and within the G1 lore this group refer to the Dinobots, Terrorcons and Predacons (plus Trypticon and Sky Lynx oddly enough). Notice how all three were Combiner Teams* who were released during Power of the Primes and, as such, were not given a high budget Takara boxset during Unite Warriors since that line was done by then and Brand Unification had occurred.

Could this be Takara using SELECTS to release an improved version of these figures?

*Yes I know the G1 Dinobots weren't combiners then, but their most recent set of toys are Combiners.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:20 pm

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Could be the Dinobot molds redecoed as the Dinoforce. Or more show-accurate redecos of the Terrorcons. Or some other five-member team of animal-altmoded figures.

Although, upon reading this English translation of the most recent chapters, it seems like this manga is trying retcon Primacron into being a Beastformer (or at least, a Beast Person, as in a member of the race of Beast People that the Beastformers were before they became Beastformers).
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:24 pm

Dinoforce would be nice but I'm a bit unsure of how different a more show-accurate Terrorcons or Predacons team would be, beyond Abominus face/helmet color swap...
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:10 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I wish they would just give us a Monstructor. That would fit nicely with primitives


You know, the Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger or Dinoforce never had their monster modes shown in the Victory anime, they had their shells for that. I wonder why...
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:16 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I wish they would just give us a Monstructor. That would fit nicely with primitives
This being Takara, they'd likely do Dinoking first.


On a different note, the more I think about the storyline of the Selects manga, the more I get the feeling that this manga might be leading up to something that hasn't really been touched upon in Transformers fiction, and which would have most likely only been covered by Fun Pub fiction: That being, the literal birth of the multiverse.

With White Convoy even considering the possibility that he may even be reincarnated as G1 Optimus Prime, the other Convoys/Primes of the Primus Vanguard may likewise be reborn in different universes of the multiverse as the Primes/Convoys of those universes:
  • Blue might get reborn as either Big Convoy or his father Blue Big Convoy
  • Green would become Aligned Optimus
  • Yellow would become Fire Convoy (and apparently get a gender change from female to male)
  • Red would become IDW1 Sentinel Prime
  • Purple would obviously become Shattered Glass Optimus
  • And Black, well, he already appeared in the future multiverse as Go Prime, but he said that he already traveled there and back via time travel, so who knows what his fate might be?

Why, yes, I do find this all fascinating. :-B
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:18 am

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I just thought of something else about the Primitives. While there are five pairs of eyes shown, that doesn't necessarily make them another combiner team. What if we're going about this all wrong and the next five are a group of beasts but who aren't a combiner team? That could open up the possibilities more. We just need to think of who, historically, has been a five-member team with beast modes but not necessarily a combiner.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I just thought of something else about the Primitives. While there are five pairs of eyes shown, that doesn't necessarily make them another combiner team. What if we're going about this all wrong and the next five are a group of beasts but who aren't a combiner team? That could open up the possibilities more. We just need to think of who, historically, has been a five-member team with beast modes but not necessarily a combiner.


The Dinobots, as they weren't originally a combiner team before The Beast Within Power of the Primes.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:46 pm

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Skritz wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just thought of something else about the Primitives. While there are five pairs of eyes shown, that doesn't necessarily make them another combiner team. What if we're going about this all wrong and the next five are a group of beasts but who aren't a combiner team? That could open up the possibilities more. We just need to think of who, historically, has been a five-member team with beast modes but not necessarily a combiner.


The Dinobots, as they weren't originally a combiner team before The Beast Within Power of the Primes.

This is the only one i can think of right off the bat.

Or maybe we're about to get some Quintesson servant repaints (Alicons, Gnaw).

Or Maybe it's Sky Lynx and a new team of smaller beasts.
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Re: Online Manga for Generations Selects Series from Takara Tomy

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:50 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just thought of something else about the Primitives. While there are five pairs of eyes shown, that doesn't necessarily make them another combiner team. What if we're going about this all wrong and the next five are a group of beasts but who aren't a combiner team? That could open up the possibilities more. We just need to think of who, historically, has been a five-member team with beast modes but not necessarily a combiner.


The Dinobots, as they weren't originally a combiner team before The Beast Within Power of the Primes.

This is the only one i can think of right off the bat.

Or maybe we're about to get some Quintesson servant repaints (Alicons, Gnaw).

Or Maybe it's Sky Lynx and a new team of smaller beasts.
I just thought of another five-member team with Beast Modes, but it's one that I don't expect it to be:

The Destrongers!

Gigatron, Gelshark, Goosher, Gaskunk, and Gildor.
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