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Postby Burn » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:42 pm

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Calvatron wrote:whatever, you live in a country of 60+ million people. And you're talking about 2 or 3 incidencts in 20 years. the quality of life that comes with freedom from government overuling is well worth the minimal cost in lives. Especially when statistics(which are all lies in themselves) prove that that when one source of violence is suppressed another shows up to refill the resevoir. My point being is the people that committed those crimes would have done so whether or not they had to work to get weapons(fakes). It's a matter of desire, not availability. The rules were changed, and murderers now use knives. so what. there are still murderers and we're one step closer to 1984. Sorry to be harsh, but people like you elected george bush, and now the U.S is declining as a country. we had hit our high mark. And we have more violence and unrest than ever. I know this is about a toy, but you people piss me off. if i have gotten you wrong, i'm sorry.


Seeing as you quoted me i'm not sure if that was aimed at me or not.

Considering i'm an Australian and actually affected by these laws, unless I do what one of the local Doctors did in town and hide my stash (admittedly four toy guns is nothing compared to his small arsenal) under the chook house.
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:45 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:those officials just want them for there own collection or sell them on ebay for 100% profit.
I wonder if the USA collectors has had any problem?


Nope, even after the hype wagon was rolling strong, placed my order, got him sealed amd clean, no muss, no fuss.

Even if the package was X-Rayed in shipping, a hand full of screws and die-cast feet would offer nothing to give the indication that this is any sort of real gun.

A closer inspection will only conclusively confirm that.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:53 pm

What makes America so different from the rest of the civilized world when it comes to violent crime? I mean, doesn't Australia have gangs? Do they somehow get guns? I wonder if America cracked down on guns like Australia has if it would really get better. My husband maintains that doing so would mean only criminals get guns. He thinks that the average Joe should have any (legal) gun he wants. I've had to drag him away from AK-47s every time we visit a gun store. To me, having weapons like that is just scary and you're asking for tragedy.

As for Megatron, well, if they don't do it for other toy guns there, what's the point doing it for this particular toy?
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Postby Burn » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:02 pm

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Sure the gangs in Australia get guns, handguns, which are still fairly readily available even with a license, because they're not on the banned list like automatic or semi-automatic they're much easier to pick up on the black market.

But guns are for pussies, if you're going to inflict harm on someone in Australia you use your fists or head dammit! :P

I think the difference between Megatron and a toy gun from a $2 store is in the detailing. Megatron is far closer to realistic than the plastic ones you find in the stores now.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:12 pm

Well, I don't see the point of buying a semi automatic gun in the first place if you're just an average joe, but that's me. And aumotatics are completely illegal in America, if I'm not mistaken. We have a huge gun problem, but it's primarily with gangs killing each other, and sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire. Seeing as how most gang members are criminals, usually felons, obviously they are getting their guns from somewhere. It's a horrid reality. We live on an army post, and we are allowed guns only under lock and key. The hubby gets to play with real guns all the time, though. No wonder he's such a gun nut. And you are right, Megs does look a lot like a real gun.
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Postby omegaprimussupermode » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:25 pm

This is dumb. It's just a toy!
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Postby i_amtrunks » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:31 pm

Burn wrote:Sure the gangs in Australia get guns, handguns, which are still fairly readily available even with a license, because they're not on the banned list like automatic or semi-automatic they're much easier to pick up on the black market.


That or they just nick weapons, grenades and night vision goggles from Army bases and training grounds...

Burn wrote:But guns are for pussies, if you're going to inflict harm on someone in Australia you use your fists or head dammit!


Consumption of Beer makes both far more accurate weapons than guns anyways! :P

Just some back history for the non Aussies.
Australia had fairly lax guns laws, particularily in Tasmania and Queensland until the Port Arthur massacre which changed everything at state andFederal level.
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Postby Burn » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:48 pm

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i_amtrunks wrote:
Burn wrote:Sure the gangs in Australia get guns, handguns, which are still fairly readily available even with a license, because they're not on the banned list like automatic or semi-automatic they're much easier to pick up on the black market.


That or they just nick weapons, grenades and night vision goggles from Army bases and training grounds...


Yeah, THAT I didn't want to bring up.

"Oh yes, we seem to have misplaced four rocket launchers, hopefully they won't fall into bad hands."
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Postby i_amtrunks » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Burn wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:
Burn wrote:Sure the gangs in Australia get guns, handguns, which are still fairly readily available even with a license, because they're not on the banned list like automatic or semi-automatic they're much easier to pick up on the black market.


That or they just nick weapons, grenades and night vision goggles from Army bases and training grounds...


Yeah, THAT I didn't want to bring up.

"Oh yes, we seem to have misplaced four rocket launchers, hopefully they won't fall into bad hands."


It's okay Burn, according to the Police, the Missile Launchers and Grenades are probably safely buried in a National Park. :?

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Postby Moonbase2 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:01 pm

Wow, I read about that massacre. I had never heard about it before! We had another school shooting this past April, where some nutball killed 31 people, just mowed them down. It caused a little uproar but yet nothing changes. Who knows what it will take to tighten gun control in the States. We have a lot of gun lobbyists and a surprising amount of people that don't want any real restrictions. It's easy to get a gun here, legally or otherwise. I think we bought three guns in a matter of a few weeks, if not less (two were gifts) and there was no alarm at all.

When something goes missing here in the army, everyone involved is put on lockdown til it's found. Usually nothing is really stolen, only misplaced, but they can hold you a long time til it's found.
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Postby metalformer » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:27 pm

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:shock: I am ignorant to the law and I maybe acting in outrage (apologies) but I just can't believe this is going on! I could understand the measures if we were talking about replica that could be turned into a real weapon but a freaking transforming toy?! :-x Its definitively getting harder to be a collector these days. :(
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Postby Burn » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:29 pm

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Any gun shootings in America we hear about here.

I can't recall hearing any in Australia since Port Arthur and the gun control being tightened. Murders however you still hear about, they're just more gruesome. :?
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Postby Moonbase2 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:37 pm

I imagine you guys hear a lot of our news. We don't hear much from your neck of the woods.
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Postby tech348 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:39 pm

Man and here I thought California was bad.
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Postby the purifyer » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:43 pm

*goes and hugs the MP Megatron and Takara re-issue #6 Megatron that he got into Queensland with no hassles*
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Postby i_amtrunks » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:10 pm

Burn wrote:Any gun shootings in America we hear about here.

I can't recall hearing any in Australia since Port Arthur and the gun control being tightened. Murders however you still hear about, they're just more gruesome. :?


Nothing even close to Port Arthur has happened since. In the past year or so drive by shootings have dramatically increased, so the gangs are still getting their guns without much hassle. Sword and Knife attacks have also risen since 2004...

But to stop the actual weapons getting into the country is hard work (no clearly labelled boxes like the MP's come in) so they get through.
Customs also aren't stopping all the swords and other bladed weapons coming here via ebay and online stores.
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Postby Dead Metal » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:24 am

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Is this some kind of a joke?
And I thought the US regulations are stupid!
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Postby Elita One » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:34 am

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Bloody government. It's a effing toy, the only way it hurts people is hurting their wallets :lol:. This is as bad as some guys I know who are real gorehounds and have had dvds taken off them. Note to customs: Drugs kill people, not toys and rare exploitation films.
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Postby snavej » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:39 am

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Having trouble with replica firearms? Why not do what Megatron himself did and make yourself into a secret firearm?! Oh wait, we don't have the technology yet.
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Postby soundwavegt » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:05 am

Oh brother, I've seen everything now. I'm beginning wonder who has the most anally jobsworth government, Britain or Australia!!! You people down under are having a hell of a rough time trying to own one of these, I really do feel bad for you guys.
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Postby King Starscream89 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:00 pm

i think its crap that goverment has made it hard to own a damn toy
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Postby BOSSC351 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:15 pm

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Postby Burn » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:32 pm

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King Starscream89 wrote:i think its crap that goverment has made it hard to own a damn toy


I think it's great that the government has made it hard for someone to go on a mass murdering spree. Even if it does make it hard on my hobby of toy collecting.
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Postby Loki41872 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:27 pm

You know what stops mass shooting sprees? Somebody with a gun that shoots the nutjob after the first shot.

Somebody that really wants a gun will still get one (In any country). Gun control only insures that there will be nobody to shoot back. If any of the students, teachers or security at Virginia Tech would have had a gun, that nutjob wouldn't have made it past the first classroom.

I hate to go completely off topic, but consider this:

In Switzerland, every able bodied male is in the militia, and every household has an automatic rifle. Look up gun crime stats in Switzerland. There's practically NONE.

Some towns in the U.S. actually require EVERY house to keep a gun with ammunition on hand, and they have ZERO gun violence.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55288

Makes you think twice about pulling a gun on someone, if you know they can shoot back.

Stop the madness, and GIVE THE AUSSIES THEIR MEGATRONS!
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Postby i_amtrunks » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:37 pm

Burn wrote:
King Starscream89 wrote:i think its crap that goverment has made it hard to own a damn toy


I think it's great that the government has made it hard for someone to go on a mass murdering spree. Even if it does make it hard on my hobby of toy collecting.


I have to agree with you Burn, it's good that the Government is trying to do the right thing with guns and gun laws, but I just wish it didn't reek of a money making scheme, and that the Customs officers and Police would also spend more time and effort stopping real weapons entering the country.

Only yesterday a man was killed in Sydney with an illegal firearm.
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