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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:42 pm
by Sabrblade
I want all three.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:22 pm
by optimuscarlos
I'm disappointed about sideswipe being the same mold as Jazz, but I think the retool is good enough for me to get him.I love the PATHBLASTER!!

I passed on the optimus FOC mold because looks like **** compared to the WFC mold, but who would 've known, It really fits on Ultra Magnus, I will get him too. Again...I love THE SWORD.


And starscrean is the jewel here, I really love this mold. Only thing is that I don't like the choosed weapon for him, I would 've loved to see him with his Nucleon charge rifle. I think this is a version of the X18 scrapmaker, when is combined at least.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:23 pm
by sgahbao
Not sure is it old news already, found these on net, FOC set to release them in March 2013. Not sure why Hasbro cannot come out with a new mold for autobots combiner. Just a repaint of Bruticus, kind of like... :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:31 pm
by sgahbao
Additional photos

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:58 pm
by RAcast
It's the Wrecker combiner, my friend! Surely you could tell by the names. :)

Ohhh man, Sideswipe! He looks so so good. I'll hold off on the Seeker mold for a Skywarp redeco, though I might come back and buy Starscream later if I see him on sale. And Magnus looks great as well!

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:19 pm
by Sabrblade
sgahbao wrote:Not sure is it old news already, found these on net, FOC set to release them in March 2013. Not sure why Hasbro cannot come out with a new mold for autobots combiner. Just a repaint of Bruticus, kind of like... :BANG_HEAD:
sgahbao wrote:Additional photos
Yeah, that's all very old news.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:05 am
by Mykltron
Starscream looks so cheap and nasty - he desperately needs paint. That grey is awful.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:02 am
by SKYWARPED_128
Mykltron wrote:Starscream looks so cheap and nasty - he desperately needs paint. That grey is awful.


Nothing you can't fix, though. ;)

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:09 am
by Rushie
That Ultra Magnus is the perfect way to pick up the FOC Prime mold without double-dipping on Optimus. He actually looks better with the huge parts-former swordgun which reminds me of Final Fantasy, especially Cloud's sword from Advent Children.

Also, all 8 remolded FOC deluxes have MUCH larger and complex weapons? Makes the originals seem so much less worth it. Just compare Jazz's dinky hairblower to Sideswipe's humongous Unicron Buster. Or those MechTechy things the Wreckers are carrying.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:00 am
by RAcast
Rushie wrote:Also, all 8 remolded FOC deluxes have MUCH larger and complex weapons? Makes the originals seem so much less worth it. Just compare Jazz's dinky hairblower to Sideswipe's humongous Unicron Buster. Or those MechTechy things the Wreckers are carrying.

That's the point I think. Hasbro released the low-mass versions first so they could release bigger toys later, at least that's how it seems to me.

By the way, anybody else noticed that Sideswipe's gun looks awfully familiar to another game as well?
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:37 pm
by El Duque
Site sponsor Kapow! Toys has reviewed the two remaining figures out of Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe wave 3, Kickback and Air Raid. Kickback is a brand new mold, while Air Raid is an Autobot reapint/remold of wave 1's Shockwave. Check out the pictorial reviews below:

Now this guy is definitely the star of the show along with Starscream. The only other brand new mold in Wave 3 is one of the Dinobots main foes from the FOC video game. He comes with a massive weapon in the form of an energon crossbow which which shoots the disc via a grey switch on top, the purple blades can be detached to become either handheld blades or part of Kickbacks alt mode.

Articulation is very good, the arms have a lot of swivel and ball joints in them and the legs the same, he has no waist swivel but does have ball jointed ankles allowing a lot of cool stances. The panels on his chest and shoulders can get in the way if I'm honest but its not enough to annoy, his forearms can be slid up or down to form blades and as you can see from the pics he looks really good either way.

Alt mode was looking a but bland from the stock images but once in hand its actually really big and hold together well, he even has a bug shell formed by the arms which I myself wasn't aware of before having it in hand.

Kickback is nice addition to the line, he does look like he belongs in the Prime universe slightly more than the FOC one but thats not a bad thing.

Overall Kickback scores 9/10


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The Wave 3 repaint of Shockwave comes with a brand new chest, colours, weapons and head. Having had a name change to Air Raid along the way this guy seems to make a much better usage of the cybertronian ship alt mode than Shockwave did who suffered from complaints he was too small, Air Raid however does not share this fate as there is nothing to measure him against other than than the existing G1 toy which is tiny.

Most of you will know what to expect of the articulation on this guy, it does the job and does it well, only gripe is no waist swivel. Weapon wise he comes with a modification of Shockwaves 3 pronged cannon minus a prong this forms the base of the huge sword if you can be bothered to make it out of all 3 sections, we tried but in total honesty it didn't stay together well and looked kind of pants, they do however all stand on their own very well, the small sword being of particular awesomeness. You can mount the gun on Air Raids arms with the fist introverted or simply in his hand, the swords can be hand held only. Both the gun and large sword can be stored on Air Raids back.

Overall this is a good use of an existing mold, the weapons, head and chest have changed it enough to warrant a purchase for hardcore fans or those who do not own Shockwave, we score Air Raid - 8/10


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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:49 pm
by PrymeStriker
Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:56 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
And Air Raid is alluring... must resist... :BOOM:

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:56 pm
by Noideaforaname
Is there a better rear foot for Kickback's bug mode? Standing on the bot mode's heels like that just looks terrible.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:58 pm
by Va'al
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe.

But possibly not.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:59 pm
by craggy
nice. these two were the ones I was really worried about when I preordered the whole wave. Kickback looks interesting, and Air Raid will be my Classics Wing Saber.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:06 pm
by RAcast
I don't have Shockwave yet, an I'd still like him, but if I can't get him for a reasonable price I'll wait for a big sale and grab whichever version of the mold I see first. Firefight was always one of my favorite toys as a kid, so he'd certainly have a place next to his granddaddy.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:51 pm
by Autobot032
Hmm. I think Kickback's going to become my PRID Insecticon. He's as close as we're going to get, and as it was said in the review, he seems to fit Prime just a bit better than FOC.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:51 pm
by Overcracker
That mold works really well for Sideswipe., better than it did for Jazz, and Jazz is a pretty good figure already.
Magnus looks ver cool, and that sword just completes the otherwise lackluster Prime mold.

Starscream is just O.K.

The insecticon is a must.

And somehow Fireflight makes that mold his own. Shockwave was a little disappointing, but Firelight just works.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:23 pm
by Dammitman
The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:29 pm
by Dammitman
PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.


I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:49 pm
by Overcracker
The insecticons show up in season 2. However the only named one is Hardshell. The rest are just his army of Insecticons. like the vehicons

But Kickback is in the FOC game prominently, you fight him as Grimlock.

So not sure why this would be a Prime figure.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:58 pm
by Sabrblade
Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:32 pm
by PrymeStriker
Dammitman wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.


I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1


You misunderstood me. Kickback isn't in Prime at all. I never said that. What I said was that Prime and FoC are part of the same universe. So, Kickback is in the Prime universe. He's not in the Prime cartoon.

Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:02 am
by Megatron Wolf
both look good but we all know where i stand on deluxes, until the price drops or they go on sale i wont be getting them.