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News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue May 24, 2016 8:05 am

Agamemnon wrote:
william-james88 wrote:There will be lots of regret when he shows up at HTS with his intended retail price: http://www.dorksidetoys.com/Transformer ... 826as0.htm

And its too bad everyone just encouraged BBTS to continue these premium price practices.

It's insurance. I am willing to pay that price for this figure, due to it's limited availability. If he shows up on Amazon for cheaper, I'll get him there. But, I no longer have the ability to hang out on the Internet hitting refresh until the figure becomes available. Perhaps Groove will be available well after this weekend, like Quickslinger and Brake Neck last year. But I don't want to risk it. This is a reason I am okay paying a bit more with a retailer like BBTS.

It's all capitalism. I find it a bit harsh that BBTS is considered a scalper. If people are willing to pay the price, we do. If not, then the choice to wait on HTS or Amazon is very valid too. Capitalism!

Well said! Plus it's BBTS, you can always cancel your order if you can get it from HTS at retail when it goes up, better safe then sorry.

by **Longrack79** » Tue May 24, 2016 8:57 am

Roadbuster wrote:He didn't sell out within minutes. The listing was up since around midnight. Try a few hours. As soon as I got home, four hours in, I snatched him up.

It might as well have been minutes for those of us who were already in bed when the preorder went live and didn't see it until 5:30 this morning.

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Tue May 24, 2016 9:07 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:There will be lots of regret when he shows up at HTS with his intended retail price: http://www.dorksidetoys.com/Transformer ... 826as0.htm

And its too bad everyone just encouraged BBTS to continue these premium price practices.

My guess is that HTS is waiting for the MAYMAYHEM 15% off code to expire today before they release him on their site. But even then, regular retail is much better than the inflated prices on BBTS.

That may be the saddest thing of all. If HTS waits until their May Mayhem coupon expires to release their May Mayhem figures, that's just disappointing. Almost as bad as putting up Christmas lights in August, but taking them down Christmas Eve.

News Credits: 1 · by **MCutter** » Tue May 24, 2016 11:28 am

kurthy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:There will be lots of regret when he shows up at HTS with his intended retail price: http://www.dorksidetoys.com/Transformer ... 826as0.htm

And its too bad everyone just encouraged BBTS to continue these premium price practices.

My guess is that HTS is waiting for the MAYMAYHEM 15% off code to expire today before they release him on their site. But even then, regular retail is much better than the inflated prices on BBTS.

That may be the saddest thing of all. If HTS waits until their May Mayhem coupon expires to release their May Mayhem figures, that's just disappointing. Almost as bad as putting up Christmas lights in August, but taking them down Christmas Eve.

Since this isn't one of HTS's regular items, the code wouldn't work on it anyway. The same thing happens any time they have a coupon code and a leftover con-exclusive item at the same time. They're probably waiting for the code to end before releasing Goove so that they don't get a deluge of "Why isn't my code working" emails.
The x-mas light analogy is pretty apt, though. ;)^

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 24, 2016 11:34 am

mooncake623 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:It's all capitalism. I find it a bit harsh that BBTS is considered a scalper. If people are willing to pay the price, we do. If not, then the choice to wait on HTS or Amazon is very valid too. Capitalism!

Well said! Plus it's BBTS, you can always cancel your order if you can get it from HTS at retail when it goes up, better safe then sorry.

I can get behind all this ;)^

I wouldnt want people to not get their toys afterall.

kurthy wrote: Almost as bad as putting up Christmas lights in August, but taking them down Christmas Eve.

Thats a cute simile.

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:00 pm

Groove is available at:

Entertaiment Earth for $ 17.99 http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... 0ST_pErK00

Scramble Core for $ 17.50 https://scramblecore.com/products/trans ... bot-groove

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:15 pm

MCutter wrote:
kurthy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:There will be lots of regret when he shows up at HTS with his intended retail price: http://www.dorksidetoys.com/Transformer ... 826as0.htm

And its too bad everyone just encouraged BBTS to continue these premium price practices.

My guess is that HTS is waiting for the MAYMAYHEM 15% off code to expire today before they release him on their site. But even then, regular retail is much better than the inflated prices on BBTS.

That may be the saddest thing of all. If HTS waits until their May Mayhem coupon expires to release their May Mayhem figures, that's just disappointing. Almost as bad as putting up Christmas lights in August, but taking them down Christmas Eve.

Since this isn't one of HTS's regular items, the code wouldn't work on it anyway. The same thing happens any time they have a coupon code and a leftover con-exclusive item at the same time. They're probably waiting for the code to end before releasing Goove so that they don't get a deluge of "Why isn't my code working" emails.
The x-mas light analogy is pretty apt, though.

That's strange as the text for the coupon specifically says "Excludes HasbroToyShop.com exclusives and gift cards" which would include con-exclusives like the SDCC sets, but Groove isn't an HTS exclusive, it's an online only item.

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:25 pm

This is bound to change soon so anyone interested in keeping tabs on the available preorders for the heavily sought after combiner wars Deluxe Groove is encouraged to subscribe to this thread for any updates. As of now (May 24th 2:30 pm eastern), here are two places where preorders are still available:

Entertaiment Earth for $ 17.99 http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... 0ST_pErK00

Scramble Core for $ 17.50 https://scramblecore.com/products/trans ... bot-groove

AJ's toy chest for $21.99 http://www.ajstoychest.com/Combiner-War ... p_141.html

Big Bad Toy Store for $24.99 http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:27 pm

william-james88 wrote:This is bound to change soon so anyone interested in keeping tabs on the available preorders for the heavily sought after combiner wars Deluxe Groove is encouraged to subscribe to this thread for any updates. As of now (May 24th 2:30 pm eastern), here are two places where preorders are still available:

Entertaiment Earth for $ 17.99 http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... 0ST_pErK00

Scramble Core for $ 17.50 https://scramblecore.com/products/trans ... bot-groove

I likeep that one of them says that it won't be available until October. :shock:

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:40 pm

william-james88 wrote:This is bound to change soon so anyone interested in keeping tabs on the available preorders for the heavily sought after combiner wars Deluxe Groove is encouraged to subscribe to this thread for any updates. As of now (May 24th 2:30 pm eastern), here are two places where preorders are still available:

Entertaiment Earth for $ 17.99 http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... 0ST_pErK00

Scramble Core for $ 17.50 https://scramblecore.com/products/trans ... bot-groove

Thanks for the heads-up, WJ; unfortunately, my usual go-to place was sold out on preorders, but I was able to snag an order on Scramble Core. Didn't go the Entertainment Earth way because of that predicted October release! :shock:

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:56 pm

Got mine 3 weeks ago. He's awesome. I like Rook a lot and have been totally cool with the new limbs but putting him in Defensor really does make him feel complete. It's just a sense of satisfaction

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:04 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
william-james88 wrote:This is bound to change soon so anyone interested in keeping tabs on the available preorders for the heavily sought after combiner wars Deluxe Groove is encouraged to subscribe to this thread for any updates. As of now (May 24th 2:30 pm eastern), here are two places where preorders are still available:

Entertaiment Earth for $ 17.99 http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... 0ST_pErK00

Scramble Core for $ 17.50 https://scramblecore.com/products/trans ... bot-groove

Thanks for the heads-up, WJ; unfortunately, my usual go-to place was sold out on preorders, but I was able to snag an order on Scramble Core. Didn't go the Entertainment Earth way because of that predicted October release!

I pulled the trigger on Scramble Core as well, but that shipping price :-(

. I usually do bulk shipping through BBTS, AmiAmi, or wait for free shipping from HTS. I've got my one now, but I'm going to wait until HTS has them before getting a set of 4 to make a groovy Defensor.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:07 pm

I went ahead and pre-ordered with Scramble, but I've never done business with them before. anyone have any insight?

by **Optimum Supreme** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:20 pm

Guess I happened to check BBTS just in time, if someone above says they were sold out by 5:30. I just had a whim to check somewhere around 4:45 or so and got my order in.

The price. Frankly I didn't know what anyone else was charging. I ordered from BBTS because I've ordered from them a lot before and they've always done right by me. Would I have liked to pay less? Sure. But frankly I'm less bothered paying voyager price for a deluxe than I was a month back when I paid deluxe price for a legend Shockwave on Amazon (BBTS didn't have it or I would have ordered from them).

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Tue May 24, 2016 4:06 pm

bbts preorder is back up and no longer out of stock
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS25038&mode=retail

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 24, 2016 5:20 pm

Updated the article on availaility: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ted/35428/

by **Decepticon619** » Tue May 24, 2016 5:54 pm

Anybody heard word if TF Source pre-orders will be up soon?

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Tue May 24, 2016 7:23 pm

Death has ordered - for... review purposes of course....

BBTS says the figures are supposed to arrive for shipping 'by late May'. That's kind of here already, isn't it?

by **Lukin900** » Tue May 24, 2016 9:26 pm

Groove preorder sighting

https://redrobottoyshop.com.au/collecti ... uxe-groove

by **Lukin900** » Tue May 24, 2016 11:20 pm

Generations 2016 Online Exclusive Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Groove.

https://redrobottoyshop.com.au/collections/pre-order/products/transformers-generations-combiner-wars-deluxe-groove

Aud$29.00

I pre-ordered one.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ultra Mad** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:28 am

Does anyone think any Canadian retaillers/stores will have him? I really do want him but I'm still on the fence about ordering from Australian or american stores at the moment. :-?

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Wed May 25, 2016 9:54 am

Ultra Mad wrote:Does anyone think any Canadian retaillers/stores will have him? I really do want him but I'm still on the fence about ordering from Australian or american stores at the moment.

A canadien retailer did have him but it is now sold out: https://www.canucktibles.ca/products/co ... uxe-groove

Also, Ages 3 and Up might have him too but not yet: http://www.agesthreeandup.com/search.ph ... ve&x=0&y=0

It will probably never be at walmart.ca or tru.ca or amazon.ca because they did not participate in may mayhem last year. Your best bet will probably to get him at amazon.com when they restock.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ultra Mad** » Wed May 25, 2016 10:13 am

The August date release from the Australian site was the biggest reason I hesitated to pre order him earlier today. Also, a local store in Montreal had last year Quickslinger and the Wildrider figure in july. I sent a message to ask if they will have Groove in stock. If they don't, I might pick him up from an american one. Hopefully, TFsource will also have him.

News Credits: 4495 · by **william-james88** » Wed May 25, 2016 10:53 am

Ultra Mad wrote:The August date release from the Australian site was the biggest reason I hesitated to pre order him earlier today. Also, a local store in Montreal had last year Quickslinger and the Wildrider figure in july. I sent a message to ask if they will have Groove in stock. If they don't, I might pick him up from an american one. Hopefully, TFsource will also have him.

Yeah, that was toys on fire. But those are importers, they dont get their merchadise from Hasbro and sell at a premium. They might get groove, but they would sell him for 30$ +tax minimum. Thats how much they were selling Arcee for.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ultra Mad** » Wed May 25, 2016 11:02 am

Yep, it was Toys on Fire. I'm more and more considering ordering from the Australian store now (Red Robot Toy shop). Has anybody done business with them before? With the current exchange rate and their shipping, it's still cheaper then having gone with BBTS (not by much though) but waiting until August suck...