Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm not sure what the person who put that in there was smoking, but there's no way Ratchet could have stood up to Megatron in Bayverse.
Dude, while Optimus was few steps ahead, he started reloding his gun! I can't understand why he can't just reload his gun during "We need a truce" speech. Or defend himself with fists, that was one of few reasons why I consider DOTM ending terrible.Rodimus Prime wrote:Megatron was just too powerful, even in DoTM
TurboMMaster wrote:Dude, while Optimus was few steps ahead, he started reloding his gun! I can't understand why he can't just reload his gun during "We need a truce" speech. Or defend himself with fists, that was one of few reasons why I consider DOTM ending terrible.Rodimus Prime wrote:Megatron was just too powerful, even in DoTM
Bleak5170 wrote:I should add that the same book also said Ratchet would eventually be destroyed by Megatron. It's just that he would give him a better fight than most.
TurboMMaster wrote:Remember that Sentinel, witch was more powerfull than either Optimus Prime and Megatron, was knocked down by a granade. Arguably, be could beign killed by human soldiers, if we would fight on their therms.
My point is: Just because you are stronger dosen't mean you are better fighter in Bayverse. For example, Brawl was strong enough to fight with Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz at once, yet he was terrible fighter. He didn't used hes weapons properly and didn't kill Jazz while he had a 100% chance. Ironhide isn't in first two movies tactical genious either. How is it possible that he forgot that he can transform? Why he is running from bombardment on foot?
So my point is, Ratchet had a chance for a good fight, if Megatron would chose pathetic fighting style, like he did in Forest Battle and DotM ending.
TurboMMaster wrote:So my point is, Ratchet had a chance for a good fight, if Megatron would chose pathetic fighting style, like he did in Forest Battle and DotM ending.
Arcee didn't had any probloem with that. And in this universe, transforming while running never really was a problem. I belive that if Ironhide did this on purpose, then he propably was covering his human companions, witch after all are more fragile. But still the real reason propably didn't: Bay didn't think about it.SlyTF1 wrote:Because transforming would take too long, and he'd be there even longer, trying to get traction on the sand.
The main problem is: In First Movie, Optimus for Megatron was kinda underdog. During fight in Mission City, you could see that Decepticon leader was what TVtropes described as a Always Someone Better. Yet in RotF, Optimus is the chosen one, and Megatron is fully aware that Prime is a major threat. Why things could changed so much in only 2 years? Isn't the way how Optimus is turned from who he was in first movie and who he became in 2 & 3 worth a separate movie, telling this story?Rodimus Prime wrote:And again I disagree. Megatron didn't have a pathetic fighting style in the forest fight. he did exactly as 1 would expect Megatron to do. He had his flunkies go in first and take some punishment, then he planned on picking his spots to take out Optimus.
TurboMMaster wrote:The main problem is: In First Movie, Optimus for Megatron was kinda underdog. During fight in Mission City, you could see that Decepticon leader was what TVtropes described as a Always Someone Better. Yet in RotF, Optimus is the chosen one, and Megatron is fully aware that Prime is a major threat. Why things could changed so much in only 2 years? Isn't the way how Optimus is turned from who he was in first movie and who he became in 2 & 3 worth a separate movie, telling this story?
The Problem is: Why he didn't defend himself? Why he didn't take few steps back? Why he didn't try to dodge that? It's almost like he did this on a purpose! "The trilogy had to end, so let my enemy kill me in awesome way."Rodimus Prime wrote:Optimus once again surprised him with his fierceness, especially one-armed, and that combined with Megatron's overconfidence due to his disabling Sentinel and diminished mental and physical well-being, was enough to defeat him.
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