RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
You got really odd tastes in quality, man.cotss2012 wrote:I'm finding this surprisingly tolerable. High points: A rockin' opening theme, good if somewhat uninspired writing, non-annoying voices, non-useless humans, an early shout-out to the Dinobots, and PETER CULLEN AS OPTIMUS. Low points: animation more worthy of a TF parody on Newgrounds than an actual TF show, no Decepticons. Neutral: general approach seems rather light on drama, though not nearly as much so as RID or Animated.
Thus far, I'm going to put this slightly ahead of Animated and slightly behind G1 Season 1.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Episode 1 -
According to Optimus, Cybertron has fallen. Could this series also be set in the Aligned Continuity?
"Rescue Force Sigma 17" is what these newcomers are called.
Argh! Once again, like the "Darkness Rising" premiere before it, Rescue Bots gets shafted in the theme song department.
Sorry, this particular note is not about the episode itself, but ZOMG TF: Prime season 2 commerical! Not much was shown that we haven't already seen. The only really new piece of material was Knock Out's voice saying "Welcome to he winning team." Also given was the airdate of "February 2012". Okay, back to the Rescue Bots episode.
Um... hello old guy with... helicopter hat. Mr. Harrison...
I can see this show taking place before the Prime cartoon (if it is set in the same world, that is).
Blades has the same heights phobia as G1 Silverbolt and WFC Silverbolt.
Seems like Chief Charlie Burns will play a similar role to Agent Fowler's role as human-Autobot liaison in this series.
So, the town's name is Griffin Rock, and it's known for its advances in technology kinda like Detroit in Animated (only not as extravagant). Guess this explains that hat from before.
The Rescue Bots pretend to be human-made automatons sent by the U.S. Government instead of real lifeforms, so as to not cause panic.
All four of the Bots have different human partners than what the toyline has. Though, both Chief Charlie Burns and Cody Burns are in the toyline, Charlie is partnered with Chase (instead of Optimus), and Cody's the tag along kid. Heatwave is partnered with Kade Burns (instead of Cody), Blades with Dani Burns (instead of Sawyer Storm), and Boulder with Graham Burns (instead of Walker Cleveland). Also, the toys have Charlie as a fire chief, but the show has him as a police chief.
Boulder is totally an expy of Bulkhead.
Cody Burns = male Sari Sumdac (and a fraction of Bud from Cybertron).
I like Heatwave. He knows when acting like a zombie is too silly.
Okay, how exactly did some water leaking into its circuits cause an animatronic T-Rex with no known supernatural (i.e. - Cybertronian) properties to come to life and go on rampage?
Despite not having any Deceptcions,that was still a pretty enjoyable fight against the T-Rex.
Ha! Nice reveal at the end.
Pretty good first episode. Great atmosphere, likable characters, a fair amount of characterization, and it felt like a true beginning. I give it an A.
Episode 2 -
Whoa! While episode 1 got the short end of the stick, episode 2 gets the full blown theme song! And it's... a rap... and long. Though, once it gets to the chorus, it gets a little catchy. But, it does need some work to be better. At least it's an actual song with actual energy, unlike TF: Prime's mellow opening. And, it kinda reminds me of the song "You're the Best" from The Karate Kid. And one more thing to note about it is that, for once, it's NOT another variation of the typical Transformers theme song, being completely unique and original.
LOL at Chase giving the Robo-Landscaper the Miranda Rights.
Hey, Chase transformed from vehicle to robot an back again with Charlie inside, who was seemingly uneffected by it. A historic moment in TF fiction history!
And so did Heatwave! Though, here, Kade appears cramped and pressed up against the windshield on Heatwave's chest.
Optimus: "I have found that the young of this species are the most valuable allies." - Did Optimus just reference Jack, Miko, and Raf? Maybe this could take place during TF: Prime season 1 (off screen)?
So saw that coming with Boulder ripping off the pinball plunger.
I like that they give Cody a purpose in this show, instead of just being the token human sidekick.
Why is LeVar Burton using an accent for Doc Green? Why not just use his natural voice? It sounds way cooler. Here, however, he sounds like an aged Kwame from Captain Planet.
Okay, what genius leaves an artificial volcano active when it isn't in use? Was there no one instructed to keep its lava pressure in check? In fact, why did they leave the lava in that fake volcano if the World's Fair had been over since 1939? If there's no more need for its use, then dispose of the lava already. Don't keep it if it's going to be an obvious safety hazard.
After stopping the lava at the volcano, the lava has instead decided to go kill Cody at the bunker... things just got real!
Self-sacrificing heroes about to be charred to death by lava. Are we sure this is for preschoolers?
Yes, I know they don't die, but these dangers they're facing are quite lethal to be all that friendly for toddlers.
Well, a very strong episode in characterization and such. Another A.
Overall, this show has far exceeded my expectations. I was expecting something along the mindset of the Playskool Go-Bots cartoon (which I re-watched right before watching this), but this blows that out of the water. This was GOOD! Very good, indeed. Much more entertaining than I found "Darkness Rising" to be on the first watch. While it was a bit silly, cheesy, and weird at times, it had acceptable animation, a lovable atmosphere, superbly written characters/characterization, above par acting, wonderful writing, and a great sense of fun and endearment. I will watch this show when it officially debuts later in 2012.
Ever seen Rescue Heroes? Cuz that's what this show could be like, and that show would get pretty intense at times during its later seasons. They don't need Decepticons for this to be good, just as long as the dangers they face are large enough threats to make the stakes higher and such.rpetras wrote:I hope they do introduce Decepticons, because fighting random earth-based threats could get a bit dull in pretty short order. At the very least it could begin to feel more like a Thomas the Tank engine rip off, and a lot less like Transformers.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Ever seen Rescue Heroes? Cuz that's what this show could be like, and that show would get pretty intense at times during its later seasons. They don't need Decepticons for this to be good, just as long as the dangers they face are large enough threats to make the stakes higher and such.rpetras wrote:I hope they do introduce Decepticons, because fighting random earth-based threats could get a bit dull in pretty short order. At the very least it could begin to feel more like a Thomas the Tank engine rip off, and a lot less like Transformers.
Nonsense. What it did in Animated was make the Decepticons look better and all the more worthwhile. On top of that, fighting second tier villains enabled them to even further enhance the characterization of the Autobots, since the Decepticon fights gave more attention to the Cons' characterization. While there was a balance between the two in other series, it somethings didn't reach the extent that Animated gave to both sides at different times, instead of both at once. Doing both at once causes the character development to be split down the middle, while doing each at a time gives each chance the opportunity to go all out in portraying the characters.rpetras wrote:There are a lot of good shows on TV in which the protagonists don't fight Decepticons, but to me, that would not feel like a proper Transformers show.
Not that it couldn't be a good show if they go that route. But they tried that in season 1 of TFA, and it really hurt the show.
They seemed to have hinted that the Decepticons do exist in this universe (which might be the same universe as the Prime cartoon), but are neither present in this location nor what the Rescue Bots are designed to face against. So, Optimus is probably dealing with the 'Cons while Rescue Force Sigma 17 focuses on developing their own skills and keeping Griffin Rock safe and sound.rpetras wrote:Now, if they have no Decepticon presence at all, as they have not, it may work better than it did in TFA where you knew they were going to show up, and everything else felt like you were wasting time.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
rpetras wrote:The writing is definitely geared towards the younger set that won't question things like an active FAKE volcano.
rpetras wrote:I hope they do introduce Decepticons, because fighting random earth-based threats could get a bit dull in pretty short order.
Sabrblade wrote:Robotic dinosaurs that could prove to be lethal weapons in the wrong hands, an artificial volcano that could act as a great power source
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
True. But both Cody and Doc Greene used the word "fake" to describe the volcano.cotss2012 wrote:rpetras wrote:The writing is definitely geared towards the younger set that won't question things like an active FAKE volcano.
The volcano was artificial, but hardly fake. They actually drilled down to the magma layer to make the thing. It was pretty clearly explained.
If done right, maybe. Meltdown was the best human villain in that series, and the Headmaster would have been cool if not for his lame 1337 personality. Besides, G1 gave us human villains too.cotss2012 wrote:rpetras wrote:I hope they do introduce Decepticons, because fighting random earth-based threats could get a bit dull in pretty short order.
Indeed. We wouldn't want a repeat of this...
...would we?
They could. But why waste their own time and energy to create such things when they can just steal these readily available ones?cotss2012 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Robotic dinosaurs that could prove to be lethal weapons in the wrong hands, an artificial volcano that could act as a great power source
Couldn't the Decepticons make their own Dinocons and volcanoes?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
As Animated has shown us, looks can be deceiving.Autobot Megatron wrote:That's the thing about this. It is geared towards littler kids, and considering we have Prime right now to compare it to, which killed off a not so main, but very looked foward to Autobot within the first 5 minutes, and then made him a zombie, this looks way kiddier than it probably is.
It certainly beats the live action movies in terms of maturity.Autobot Megatron wrote:I would say it beats some of the other Transformers shows in maturity, though, and many more other shows that are geared towards an even older audience.
It doesn't taint my opinions. IMHO, Rescue Bots accomplished much more in just two episodes than "Darkness Rising" did in five.Autobot Megatron wrote:It's just with Prime fresh in our minds, it taints our opinions. I would love to see a fan review it that hasn't ever seen Prime. That would probably be a more unbiased review than any of us could probably give. (ignore the smiley that makes no sense here)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:True. But both Cody and Doc Greene used the word "fake" to describe the volcano.
Sabrblade wrote:If done right, maybe. Meltdown was the best human villain in that series, and the Headmaster would have been cool if not for his lame 1337 personality. Besides, G1 gave us human villains too.
Sabrblade wrote:Though, it's still yet to top Beast Machines maturity-wise, since that one's still the most mature.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
Fan theory is fan theory. No canon evidence to support the latter.cotss2012 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:True. But both Cody and Doc Greene used the word "fake" to describe the volcano.
That's because Cody doesn't understand the difference and Doc is insane.
I meant by how it was mature with all its deep philosophical themes and controversial topics such as "harmony vs. extremism", "the needs of one vs. the needs of many", "conflict and inequality in a free society", "free will vs. totalitarianism", and "religious faith in a higher order". The fact that it included all of these heavy adult-minded aspects shows that it took risks and dared to go the extra mile of children's entertainment. It was definitely ahead of its time in that regard.cotss2012 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, it's still yet to top Beast Machines maturity-wise, since that one's still the most mature.
I too looked upon BM with rose-tinted glasses... until I saw it a second time and realized that it still carried a lot of annoying baggage from BW, mostly Rattrap's constant whining and the calling out of transformations. Plus, Blackarachnia's whole character seemed to have degenerated into being defined by her relationship with Silverbolt; contrast Airachnid, who is more reminiscent of the independent and complex Blackarachnia from Beast Wars.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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