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EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I’m SUPER excited at the possibility of Breakaway, I really like that design.

I’m curious when we’ll learn more about 2022 for Bayverse Studio Series, from rumors it seems to be like this year with not a lot of releases, but there’s ones I’m really excited about if they pan out (DOTM and High Octane Bees, Evasion Prime)

I believe a new mold of TLK Megatron is slated for 2022.

I was never a big fan of the Breakaway mold, just don't like the looks of it, but if it selling well guaranteed them making a new Wreckage figure I'd buy two! But it would have to be based on the Wreckage toy, not the concept art. Voyager would be nice, too.



Emerje

wreckgar38+1 wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I’m SUPER excited at the possibility of Breakaway, I really like that design.

I’m curious when we’ll learn more about 2022 for Bayverse Studio Series, from rumors it seems to be like this year with not a lot of releases, but there’s ones I’m really excited about if they pan out (DOTM and High Octane Bees, Evasion Prime)

I believe a new mold of TLK Megatron is slated for 2022.

Given how good both the TLK voyager and leader were, I'd be interested to see how they could improve on the design.

As for Breakaway, they possibility of a new figure is definitely exciting. The RotF deluxe is good, but a bit fiddly at times, so it'll be cool to see what they'll do at a bigger size.

Tuned Agent wrote:

wreckgar38+1 wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I’m SUPER excited at the possibility of Breakaway, I really like that design.

I’m curious when we’ll learn more about 2022 for Bayverse Studio Series, from rumors it seems to be like this year with not a lot of releases, but there’s ones I’m really excited about if they pan out (DOTM and High Octane Bees, Evasion Prime)

I believe a new mold of TLK Megatron is slated for 2022.

Given how good both the TLK voyager and leader were, I'd be interested to see how they could improve on the design.

As for Breakaway, they possibility of a new figure is definitely exciting. The RotF deluxe is good, but a bit fiddly at times, so it'll be cool to see what they'll do at a bigger size.

They may just pull a Cogman and rerelease TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

Would Breakaway be the first Studio Series release that was not actually in the films and not a generic troop builder like KSI Sentry/Boss or Shadow Raider?

While I liked the deluxe and would welcome another new good figure, part of me is like WTF Hasbro? There are characters from the actual movies with actual screen time that are still waiting on toys. But it looks like they will have to keep waiting until all the SS86 stuff is out of the way, and all the characters that appear in the first 3 minutes of the Bee movie are also out of the way. And now on top of that, they will have to share the very few slots left open with whatever toys are coming from the new movie.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:They may just pull a Cogman and re release TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

That's how I feel about a LOT of TLK line, well at least the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders. They were pretty much Proto SS. I know new toys would be nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of them are just the same toys from 2017, with new paint apps.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:They may just pull a Cogman and rerelease TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

And Not-Nitro Zeus.

Really, the only reason they couldn't do it for Scorn too is because Voyager is too small for him

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:They may just pull a Cogman and re release TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

That's how I feel about a LOT of TLK line, well at least the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders. They were pretty much Proto SS. I know new toys would be nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of them are just the same toys from 2017, with new paint apps.

For TLK Megatron, it depends on which size class they go with. The voyager was solid all around. The Leader is a pretty meh mold and could use an update.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:They may just pull a Cogman and re release TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

That's how I feel about a LOT of TLK line, well at least the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders. They were pretty much Proto SS. I know new toys would be nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of them are just the same toys from 2017, with new paint apps.

For TLK Megatron, it depends on which size class they go with. The voyager was solid all around. The Leader is a pretty meh mold and could use an update.

Hmm...I was unaware they did Megatron at BOTH scales, for the purposes of SS, I would think they would pick whichever one was most screen accurate, and go with that.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:They may just pull a Cogman and re release TLK Voyager Megatron with more accurate paint

That's how I feel about a LOT of TLK line, well at least the Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders. They were pretty much Proto SS. I know new toys would be nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of them are just the same toys from 2017, with new paint apps.

For TLK Megatron, it depends on which size class they go with. The voyager was solid all around. The Leader is a pretty meh mold and could use an update.

For him to be perfect and in scale, TLK Megs should be a Leader. The
TLK voyager was stellar, but too small. They could upsize the voyager and add some parts to clean up the kibble. It would be perfect.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Would Breakaway be the first Studio Series release that was not actually in the films and not a generic troop builder like KSI Sentry/Boss or Shadow Raider?

Thundercracker

Sabrblade wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Would Breakaway be the first Studio Series release that was not actually in the films and not a generic troop builder like KSI Sentry/Boss or Shadow Raider?

Thundercracker

And before anyone says "he could have been one of the 200 other Decepticons from the Moon," no that doesn't count

Emerje wrote:I was never a big fan of the Breakaway mold, just don't like the looks of it, but if it selling well guaranteed them making a new Wreckage figure I'd buy two! But it would have to be based on the Wreckage toy, not the concept art. Voyager would be nice, too.



Emerje

You mean this thing?:


Arctic Camo Troop transport that transforms into a white and orange robot with a Megatron head?


Does anyone even remember Wreckage?

His artwork makes him look really cool. The toy, not so much.

I loved the bludgeon redeco personally, but I thought both were fantastic

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Would Breakaway be the first Studio Series release that was not actually in the films and not a generic troop builder like KSI Sentry/Boss or Shadow Raider?

While I liked the deluxe and would welcome another new good figure, part of me is like WTF Hasbro? There are characters from the actual movies with actual screen time that are still waiting on toys. But it looks like they will have to keep waiting until all the SS86 stuff is out of the way, and all the characters that appear in the first 3 minutes of the Bee movie are also out of the way. And now on top of that, they will have to share the very few slots left open with whatever toys are coming from the new movie.

Bruh DOTM game Warpath is on the table if Breakaway does well, and 2023 or 2024 is Oops all AOE/TLK. Patience young grasshopper.

For the "Transformers Legacy" line coming up in 2022, what are non-G1 fans hoping for with some toe-dipping into other Transformers franchises? For me, I'm hoping that the "Generations" aesthetic remains largely the same. For instance, I want the same level of detail in sculpting and capturing the screen accuracy of characters like Side Burn (RID '01), Hot Shot (Armada), Knock Out (Prime), and Strongarm (RID '15) that we've been getting with the War for Cybertron Trilogy. I want to be able to add these break-out characters from other Transformers universe into the expanded universe of my collection, which right now is mostly G1 and Beast Wars figures from the past few years. I realize not every iteration of Transformers really lends itself to this idea, particularly with the rather uniquely stylized Transformers: Animated, but recent "experiments" like retroactively making live-action movie Barricade into a G1 character, using Smokescreen as the basis for a retool/repaint, is the kind of inspiration from Hasbro and Takara that I want to see more of. Not all of them need to have a G1 character model upon which to base their "retrofitted" look either. It just happened to work well for Barricade, but perhaps a "G1 version" of Bulkhead could be its own design and alt mode apart from any other previous G1 character, like a big SWAT vehicle, or a military truck like live-action Hound.

I'd love more updated Beast wars, of course

I think Sideways from- I think armada?- is an awesome character and an instant buy if updated. Tidal wave too, and although I'm not really invested in hot shot an update would be cool. I also really liked Snarl from the cybertron toyline with the arctic wolf alt mode and an update would be cool, though I have no idea if he was an important character. Thats it off the top of my head for unicron trilogy, though I hope others get the updates they've been waiting on

From RID it'd be nice to see a more accurate Scourge rather than just getting Nemesis prime. Galvatron too. And I have t30 sky Byte so I wouldn't want to buy another one but I love Sky Byte so too bad haha. Plus the 3 other preds under his command

From TF:A id love to see blitzwing with the 3 faces done right; I have t30 with the idw upgrade kit for shoulders and head because original head broke. Lockdown, of course. Maybe lugnut though I absolutely adore the rts version I own as is. A prowl and bulkhead would be really cool too. And ratchet, I like the old man ratchet. Jazz, Blurr, maybe Soundwave, and most definitely Shockwave/Longarm. So cool. Sentinel prime so I have an autobot I can hate haha. Grimlocks design was cool too I thought. Slipstream, definitely.

From Prime, bulkhead and ratchet if tf:a versions don't happen. Knock out, breakdown, airachnid, arcee, skyquake, bumblebee, cliffjumper, wheeljack. Maybe Soundwave. And that pirate lion whose name currently escapes me. Definitely him.

I'd also love to see generations versions of movie characters. We got Barricade, id love to see what can be done with blackout, Hound, decepticon wheelie, jetfire, lockdown, and that green autobot that looks like he has a trenchcoat whose name escapes me. Reminds me of Gambit.

And if idw is on the table, then any idw Beast wars of course but also 13 OG primes, badass arcee, badass perceptor, ironhide since there's yet to be a figure of him thats actually good, jhiaxus, drift, and other idw original characters

And I believe this was dreamwave comics or something other than idw that was canceled but the Bludgeon with half his jaw knocked off was so cool. I have rotf Bludgeon with an upgrade kit for the head and swords but a more comic accurate one would be cool

And before anyone says that certain figures don't need updates because the older ones are good enough or that movie characters shouldn't be geewun-ified, the reason I'd want all these characters and figures in the generations line is so that I can have one big collection that goes together rather than separate ones that wouldn't look good as one big group. So apologies that I mentioned a lot of g1 characters, in most of those cases it was because I prefer those versions of the characters to the g1 versions. Most of them have more depth and interesting character traits rather than being boring to me. Like tf prime ratchet and wheeljack or movie Hound

Wolfman Jake wrote:For the "Transformers Legacy" line coming up in 2022, what are non-G1 fans hoping for with some toe-dipping into other Transformers franchises? For me, I'm hoping that the "Generations" aesthetic remains largely the same. For instance, I want the same level of detail in sculpting and capturing the screen accuracy of characters like Side Burn (RID '01), Hot Shot (Armada), Knock Out (Prime), and Strongarm (RID '15) that we've been getting with the War for Cybertron Trilogy. I want to be able to add these break-out characters from other Transformers universe into the expanded universe of my collection, which right now is mostly G1 and Beast Wars figures from the past few years. I realize not every iteration of Transformers really lends itself to this idea, particularly with the rather uniquely stylized Transformers: Animated, but recent "experiments" like retroactively making live-action movie Barricade into a G1 character, using Smokescreen as the basis for a retool/repaint, is the kind of inspiration from Hasbro and Takara that I want to see more of. Not all of them need to have a G1 character model upon which to base their "retrofitted" look either. It just happened to work well for Barricade, but perhaps a "G1 version" of Bulkhead could be its own design and alt mode apart from any other previous G1 character, like a big SWAT vehicle, or a military truck like live-action Hound.

Actually, some people have done fan art of a G1ified cast for Animated and a lot of them still hit all the notes to look like Animated, while still fitting the aesthetic of G1, so it's definitely possible to get good looking Animated figures while not altering the style too much.

And personally, I'm just excited to see what new toys they make. I know they count as G1, but I think an awesome update they could do would be new versions of the Ultra and Mega Pretenders. They could reimagine the shells to be closer to IDW's take where they functioned as hazmat type suits, but I think the Ultra and Mega Pretenders would work really well as a "test" for the pretender concept's return due to the shells transforming, and the Ultra Pretender shells even having the possibility of adding a base mode for Core Class figures.

Alternatively, I'd just love to see them extend to JG1 (mostly for Star Saber, partially for Godmasters), and maybe even extend to RID2015 cause some of those designs deserve good figures (namely Menasor)

Wolfman Jake wrote:For the "Transformers Legacy" line coming up in 2022, what are non-G1 fans hoping for with some toe-dipping into other Transformers franchises? For me, I'm hoping that the "Generations" aesthetic remains largely the same. For instance, I want the same level of detail in sculpting and capturing the screen accuracy of characters like Side Burn (RID '01), Hot Shot (Armada), Knock Out (Prime), and Strongarm (RID '15) that we've been getting with the War for Cybertron Trilogy. I want to be able to add these break-out characters from other Transformers universe into the expanded universe of my collection, which right now is mostly G1 and Beast Wars figures from the past few years. I realize not every iteration of Transformers really lends itself to this idea, particularly with the rather uniquely stylized Transformers: Animated, but recent "experiments" like retroactively making live-action movie Barricade into a G1 character, using Smokescreen as the basis for a retool/repaint, is the kind of inspiration from Hasbro and Takara that I want to see more of. Not all of them need to have a G1 character model upon which to base their "retrofitted" look either. It just happened to work well for Barricade, but perhaps a "G1 version" of Bulkhead could be its own design and alt mode apart from any other previous G1 character, like a big SWAT vehicle, or a military truck like live-action Hound.

Going by each Continuity family, I would love to see:
Generation 1
All I'd really like as far as G1 bots at this point is a new Alpha Trion (the Titans Return figre is good and all, but I wouldn't mind something closer to the G1 cartoon design) and a Blitzwing (there could be a place for him in Studio Series 1986 because he did have a memorable scene in the movie). For Beast Wars, other than the leaked Tarantulas, just Silverbolt and Inferno and that would be me fully satisfied.
Robots in Disguise 2001
Not much to tell you the truth, probably just an updated Sky-Byte that's closer to the original design than the IDW/30th Anniversary or Cyberverse designs.
Unicron Trilogy
It would be great if any new Unicron Trilogy toys retain some of the old play gimmicks from those lines, I'm mostly talking about Mini-Cons, but Cyber Planet Keys and Powerlinking would be welcome too. Red Alert, Demolishor and Vector Prime are the main characters I'd like new toys of.
Animated
Again not a huge amount, because I'm not really a fan of Animated's designs. Perhaps just a new Lugnut that's, again, closer to the original design than the Reveal the Shield Lugnut.
Aligned Continuity
Going by leaks, we're at least getting new toys of Optimus, Arcee and Knock Out. I would also like Bulkhead, Insecticons and an improved Smokescreen, because the Beast Hunters Deluxe sadly wasn't very good. I sold off my entire Prime collection on Ebay a couple of years ago, which I now firmly regret because there were some fantastic figures in there, so I'll be happy with whatever Prime characters Legacy comes out with.

Overcracker wrote:
Does anyone even remember Wreckage?

His artwork makes him look really cool. The toy, not so much.

The toy was pretty good, same with the repaint into bludgeon (I have him as the pretend inner for the RTS Tank Bludgeon)

wouldnt mind a commander class RID/Car robots Megatron if they cant do him as a titan. should make all 10 modes even more fun and teh bigger the better for Kaijus.

This basically is a wish list that can be (hopefully) fulfilled at any time in the future of the Generations/Gen Selects line: Basically any and all combiners that haven't received a modern update, also Japanese characters from Headmasters-Operation Combination that haven't had a modern update as well.

Razorbeast88 wrote:and that green autobot that looks like he has a trenchcoat whose name escapes me. Reminds me of Gambit.

Crosshairs is the character you're thinking of.



I'm gonna write something I been thinking´about for while,but it's hard to put it into words.I don't mean to say that anyone is wrong or to call out anyone in particular.It's just my opinion.

Some posts above are talking about making character from other series fit into G1.

In general,I don't think saying something is the G1 style helps to narrow down how a character would look.

As the Transformers continues to grow,new designs elements are added,so it's natural that when a character reappears that he will look updated.
Since many characters only existed in G1 for a long time,it could be also be interpreted that G1 was also updated.
With series like Animated or Rescue Bots,it's easy to tell they were going for an specific look,but for other series it's a culmination of design choices.
Here is an example of what I mean:

These Optimus Prime designs below are considered G1



And the War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron games are also considered being G1 inspired

And so are the IDW comics



But when you line these designs side by side ,it's clear they have a different art style.

I'm all for an unified aesthetic,but calling it "G1 version" is counterintuitive,because it's a way too broad of a definition.

I will have to respectfully disagree. Everyone has their own opinion. To me, The Transformers is everything that existed from 1984-1991(ish). The examples you sight that came after, may be inspired by, but it is NOT the Original Transformers. As for updating, or including certain characters. Sure I'm all for it. If you want to take Barricade from the live action movieverse, or Lugnut from Animated, or Knockout from Prime, and change them to look like they belong in the animated series, or marvel comic, sure go for it (Btw...I know IDW has been trying to do this, but it could be done far better).

To me, when DW fleshed out Sunstorm, he gets a pass because technically he was there in the beginning, But more recently added characters such as Drift & Windblade are part of the add-ons I'm talking about. But instead of being ported over from another continuity they were just made up I'm ok with creating new characters, but they will always stand out to me as not "Truly" OG.

I don't get it.
It's a bot that transform into a thing and it have the "Transformers" name on the box? It's a Transformers.
Pure and simple.

Like, come ON, as if only geewun matter.


Stiiiiiiiiiiillllllllll, you know what I would want? Take a "new" character like Lugnut or Windblade, and make a "true G1" toy out of it as if they woudl have ben made in the 1980's. Wonky proportions, limited articulation, simple transformation, metal parts, and all that jazz.
Like a "new vintage" line like they are currently doing with Masters of the Universe.

That would be so RAD!

Thats why I don't refer to updated figures I want as geewunified but rather generations-styled

As cool as some toys from TF:A, TFPrime, SS are, they don't really fit in with my collection since I mostly get generations figures. So I don't necessarily want all of these great characters and designs to be changed to mimic G1, just changed to fit with generations
Like an updated TF:A Ratchet. I love that version of Ratchet and prefer it over G1 version. A generations style toy of that Ratchet or Tf Prime ratchet would be perfect for me. And thats just one example of many