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ZeroWolf wrote:Regarding UT it all depends on what you Class as combiners. Do you count Armarda Prime, Jetfire and Overload as a combiner? What of the star Saber sword, the street racer minicon team etc etc. Energon had the similar problem of the Autobots being able to combine with each other (or themselves to make a powered up form).

Munkky wrote:I went over to the rumours thread on TFW to see what things have been said for Legacy, and I didn't know there was a leaked store listing for a Leader Class TF: Prime Optimus Prime, how long ago did that come up? Either way I'm having it, along with the Arcee and Knock Out if they are indeed happening. As for the Headmaster Jrs, a Minerva would be nice.

Munkky wrote:

Munkky wrote:I went over to the rumours thread on TFW to see what things have been said for Legacy, and I didn't know there was a leaked store listing for a Leader Class TF: Prime Optimus Prime, how long ago did that come up? Either way I'm having it, along with the Arcee and Knock Out if they are indeed happening. As for the Headmaster Jrs, a Minerva would be nice.

So today's new Amazon leaks seem to disprove what I wrote here, it looks like the "Prime Optimus Prime" that was leaked a while ago is just a collab with Amazon, a repaint of Earthrise Optimus in the colours of an Amazon truck. That's a shame, but I do hope a Prime Optimus will still happen in Legacy. The only Optimus Primes I have in my shaved-down post-moving-out collection is the Earthrise version and its Shattered Glass repaint, so I wouldn't mind another version. Either Prime, Armada, or another movie Optimus (because I never liked the Studio Series wave 1 and 5 Voyager mould, and I have no interest in the Bumblebee movie Voyager).

aronjlove wrote:Call me crazy, but I want Amazon Optimus Prime and I want him to look like this, tiny shipping box with 5mm post included.

aronjlove wrote:

Munkky wrote:

Munkky wrote:I went over to the rumours thread on TFW to see what things have been said for Legacy, and I didn't know there was a leaked store listing for a Leader Class TF: Prime Optimus Prime, how long ago did that come up? Either way I'm having it, along with the Arcee and Knock Out if they are indeed happening. As for the Headmaster Jrs, a Minerva would be nice.

So today's new Amazon leaks seem to disprove what I wrote here, it looks like the "Prime Optimus Prime" that was leaked a while ago is just a collab with Amazon, a repaint of Earthrise Optimus in the colours of an Amazon truck. That's a shame, but I do hope a Prime Optimus will still happen in Legacy. The only Optimus Primes I have in my shaved-down post-moving-out collection is the Earthrise version and its Shattered Glass repaint, so I wouldn't mind another version. Either Prime, Armada, or another movie Optimus (because I never liked the Studio Series wave 1 and 5 Voyager mould, and I have no interest in the Bumblebee movie Voyager).

Call me crazy, but I want Amazon Optimus Prime and I want him to look like this, tiny shipping box with 5mm post included.

o.supreme wrote:I just use "The Transformers" in lieu of "G1" because I personally find that term to be lazy

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I wasn't really part of the initial conversation, but I always took "G1" to be: Sunbow to Zone IE the first five years.

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I wasn't really part of the initial conversation, but I always took "G1" to be: Sunbow to Zone IE the first five years.

That's the general consensus, though Zone did debut in 1990/1991 if I recall correctly.

Rysquad wrote:https://comicbook.com/gear/news/transformers-pulse-con-wfc-agent-ravage-reveal-haslab-tease/#5

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm personally hoping it's Star Saber, and he won't be ridiculously expensive, but given Unicron's cost and the Sentinel for Marvel Legends, I'm not too hopeful

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm personally hoping it's Star Saber, and he won't be ridiculously expensive, but given Unicron's cost and the Sentinel for Marvel Legends, I'm not too hopeful

Leaks / Rumours state it's Star Saber at 200-250 with a Victory Leo stretch goal. He's apparently the same size as Siege Jetfire but has the extra engineering to accommodate the Victory Saber mode and Brainmaster gimmick.

Hopefully his Victory Saber mode is more impressive than him putting on platform boots.

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:(Not 100% sure this is the right thread, but I know it's kind of a speculation thread) Well, Hasbro just teased the next HasLab project, and I guess they want to test the waters for JG1

CW LioKaiser, TR Metalhawk, Overlord, and SkyShadow, Selects Black Zarak and Black Roritchi are all very sad right now.

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:(Not 100% sure this is the right thread, but I know it's kind of a speculation thread) Well, Hasbro just teased the next HasLab project, and I guess they want to test the waters for JG1

CW LioKaiser, TR Metalhawk, Overlord, and SkyShadow, Selects Black Zarak and Black Roritchi are all very sad right now.

At any rate, this is awesome. Also for a certainly, a Haslab project doesn't have to be some monstrous $500+ item. A Victory Saber set, or 18" "Titan Class" Dinoking (same size as CW/UW Devastator and PotP Predaking), would be perfect for the $200-$300 range, and I'd wholeheartedly support either one.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In a way, I hope it isn't Star Saber. As the MP exists. MP level versions of Greatshot or the Gestalts Liokaiser and Dinoking would be more worthwhile as a HasLab project.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:(Not 100% sure this is the right thread, but I know it's kind of a speculation thread) Well, Hasbro just teased the next HasLab project, and I guess they want to test the waters for JG1

CW LioKaiser, TR Metalhawk, Overlord, and SkyShadow, Selects Black Zarak and Black Roritchi are all very sad right now.

At any rate, this is awesome. Also for a certainly, a Haslab project doesn't have to be some monstrous $500+ item. A Victory Saber set, or 18" "Titan Class" Dinoking (same size as CW/UW Devastator and PotP Predaking), would be perfect for the $200-$300 range, and I'd wholeheartedly support either one.

Not a lot of people liked the LioKaiser cause it was a half hearted retool, Metalhawk was in a box set with other figures that could muddy perception, but I will concede that I had forgotten about Overlord, Sky Shadow, and Black Zarak as ways of purely checking interest in JG1. But I was also mostly just meaning that it'd be a way for Hasbro to know for sure that there is a demand for them among the fans before trying to push them in the mainline.

As a side note, does anyone know if you can change the card on file for HasLab projects after they've been funded and still have your order? Or is it a situation of "Don't even think about touching it or you'll never see this figure again"?

o.supreme wrote:TR Deluxe wave 5 goes for insane amounts on the secondary market, but to all the fans and scalpers who found them at Ollie's at bargain bin prices, was it a failure? Was it a failure to Hasbro that TRU closed in the U.S. causing major issues with where their product was supposed to go in the interim? We will never know.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

o.supreme wrote:TR Deluxe wave 5 goes for insane amounts on the secondary market, but to all the fans and scalpers who found them at Ollie's at bargain bin prices, was it a failure? Was it a failure to Hasbro that TRU closed in the U.S. causing major issues with where their product was supposed to go in the interim? We will never know.

Hasbro doesn't make money from secondary market, hence why they'll sometimes rerelease highly-sought figures (so they can get a piece of that pie). It's no coincidence that we got Counterpunch in the first GO pack available on Pulse and we're supposedly getting the TR Targetmasters in the Retro line... with a new G1 Ratchet supposedly coming in Legacy.

Figures never being stocked and moved to clearance retailers does not spell "success" to Hasbro. Platinum Edition died for a reason. It doesn't matter what circumstances affected the sales, it's the sales of the figures that are examined.