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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby -WonkoTheSane- » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:32 pm

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Yeah, That is definitely what I'm calling them for now on. :lol:
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby DeathReviews » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm

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The funnier aspect is the way the media is reporting this. These guys were caught red-handed, in their warehouse, surrounded by boxes and crates full of counterfeit parts, some figures in pieces, some partly assembled, some fully assembled, some packaged, boxed and ready to ship. They had computers with their pilfered specs loaded and on the screens. They were practically wearing T-shirts and ball caps that said "WE ARE COUNTERFEITERS" on them.

But the media is still reporting them as "alleged" or "suspected" counterfeiters. What does it take to get the media to call a spade a spade?
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:30 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:But the media is still reporting them as "alleged" or "suspected" counterfeiters. What does it take to get the media to call a spade a spade?


Obvious legality. The media CANNOT call them "guilty" out loud until the trial is set and done and a guilty judgement is already made. It's supposed to be common knowledge.

However, by showing everything and telling all the names, the media already passed their "guilty" judgement in the mind of the population. It's an attitude that can ruin lives when someone innocent is named as the guilty party even when found innocent at the end of the trial. The victim could then sue the media to oblivion for defamation.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby Ultra Markus » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:21 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:i wonder if those oversized combiner wars figures will be rare now


They will if Ebay suddenly forbid their sale and the authorities command the remaining stocks to be destroyed. This is the most likely scenario.

I wonder if it's just Weijiang that is affected, or is it all the KOs? Because I ordered yesterday the undersized MP-10V trailer for a custom and it would suck if I could no longer receive it despite the thing being marked as shipped.

i dont know those supposed G1 reissues that were never made officially like shockwave or the dinobots i would think that they would go after them too
i happened to get to see in person the shockwave and the quality is really good with the metal and sounds its almost like the real deal
but i didnt have an original to compare it with
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:42 pm

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When buying G1, I want to have the REAL deal. Even if they are reissue.

Also, the quality is poor. Got both my "grimlock" and "shockwave" breaking on me after barely playing with them. They were also really expensive each. I got scammed hard.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:28 pm

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o.supreme wrote:This could be pure rumor/misinformation on my part, so please forgive me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember Hasbro saying something about moving manufacturing to India at some point? - Good for avoiding communist governments, but if you are frustrated with QC issues now, expect them to exponentially increase if that happens.


Yes, Hasbro was going to be setting up some production lines in India but not for Transformers, which is remaining in Vietnam for the moment.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby cruizerdave » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:30 am

Darn. I was hoping they’d knockoff the Pinch/Counterpunch figure, but add correct guns and lose the POTP hand and Titan Master.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby blackeyedprime » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:17 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:When buying G1, I want to have the REAL deal. Even if they are reissue.

Also, the quality is poor. Got both my "grimlock" and "shockwave" breaking on me after barely playing with them. They were also really expensive each. I got scammed hard.


My dinobots were pretty good quality wise, I'd rather have real g1 reissues any day of the week. I knew they were kos before buying them and the seller even reduced them as he didn't know they were kos. Was kind of hoping with the effort that went it to remolding the official soundwave tape compartment hasbro would get off their butt's and remake popular characters molds if need be. No way they wouldn't make money from Dinobot reissues and all the color variants possible. The Takara collection/encores got stale when they kept reissuing the same reissues and still do with the Walmart stuff.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:28 am

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william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:This could be pure rumor/misinformation on my part, so please forgive me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember Hasbro saying something about moving manufacturing to India at some point? - Good for avoiding communist governments, but if you are frustrated with QC issues now, expect them to exponentially increase if that happens.


Yes, Hasbro was going to be setting up some production lines in India but not for Transformers, which is remaining in Vietnam for the moment.

Thank god, everything that they're producing in india right now looks and feels so cheap, the packaging is awful and it just has an air of low effort about it
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:31 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:When buying G1, I want to have the REAL deal. Even if they are reissue.

Also, the quality is poor. Got both my "grimlock" and "shockwave" breaking on me after barely playing with them. They were also really expensive each. I got scammed hard.


My dinobots were pretty good quality wise, I'd rather have real g1 reissues any day of the week. I knew they were kos before buying them and the seller even reduced them as he didn't know they were kos. Was kind of hoping with the effort that went it to remolding the official soundwave tape compartment hasbro would get off their butt's and remake popular characters molds if need be. No way they wouldn't make money from Dinobot reissues and all the color variants possible. The Takara collection/encores got stale when they kept reissuing the same reissues and still do with the Walmart stuff.


I paid over 60$CAN for my Grimlock. On the 5th transformation, he literally snapped in half. Some years later, I bought a genuine G1 Grimlock and I gave him the KO weapons. For some reasons, I don't mind KO weapons and accessories of G1. We all know why.

As for why HASTAK cannot reissue the Dinobots is because the molds have been lost for years now. They should do what the KO companies did. Reverse engineer the G1 Dinos and create new molds from scratchs. It would cost a fortune and I'm not sure if they could make a profit back. The recent Walmart reissues were from existing molds. But brand new molds for a somewhat limited market? for 5 characters? The costs must outweigh the benefits because they would already been made.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby o.supreme » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:54 am

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cruizerdave wrote:Darn. I was hoping they’d knockoff the Pinch/Counterpunch figure, but add correct guns and lose the POTP hand and Titan Master.


??? If you are referring to the Amazon Exclusive, it didn't have a TM head. It came with an exclusive Prime Master, but that's not essential. Additionally yeah it was pointless to have the PotP hand as it was not a combiner limb making it the outlier of that line.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:01 am

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Actually he did come with potp hand (some fans turned it into a jet pack and used it to better hide the punch body when in counterpunch mode. It also cane with Prima Prime Prime Master.
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Postby o.supreme » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:03 am

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Yeah I forgot that because it was pointless, but corrected myself.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:42 am

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It made a pretty cool jetpack though and as I say was used to further Disguise counterpunch when ever he turned around, otherwise he'd have cons shooting him in the back all the time :lol:
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Postby ausbot » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:29 am

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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:39 am

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ausbot wrote:Good I'm sick trying to figure out what is real and what is a ko


Especially in the MP and G1 hell.
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Postby blackeyedprime » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:31 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
ausbot wrote:Good I'm sick trying to figure out what is real and what is a ko


Especially in the MP and G1 hell.


Simples,

If it's MP and self destructs -Official

If it's MP and has More Features -KO

If it's MP and has speeling mistakes -KO

If it's MP and has law avoiding stickers- Either

If it's G1 and Hasbro or Takara havent already released a reissue of it -KO

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If it's SS and has figure issues fixed or better scaling- KO

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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby noctorro » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:19 pm

Om nom nom. The 3rd party/KO Transformers debate.

Are there any pro-KO'ers out here?

I'm totally cool with what happened. It's not their IP, it's theft. End of story.

And yes I'm a 0,0something % hypocrite for owning 2 3rd party TF's (Fall of Cybertron Megatron and War for Cybertron bigger Onslaught which I not even transformed once, I don't like the frailty and complexity of third parties I realized). And I have 6 KO Voyager sized RID Green Grimlock (for my green Grimlock Army) and 3 Combiner Wars Rook's in dark blue because it's a fun mold and a great generic soldier.

Howeverrrrrrr, I have a mega ton of HASTAK transformers and loving it! Seen almost every show, have all the movies on disc, almost all the games. I fully support and love HASTAK for all the stuff they made Combiner Wars and up.

So yeah, take 'm out of business. Have them make their own series of changing robots, have them design their own characters, lore and toys. Have them follow laws of safety and don't live of the fanbase somebody else made, bunch of freeloaders.
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Re: Shanghai Police Crack Down on Transformers KOs, Raiding Factories and Arresting People

Postby Drifty » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:40 am

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