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Well after two years of hyping the hell out of the movie for myself, I finally saw it on Friday. I came out of the theater a little unsure of how I felt. One one hand it certainly was the most action-packed movie I have ever seen. But I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed, (kind of my own fault for getting way too psyched for it I guess).

I consider the first movie one of my all-time favourites - it's in my top 10 for sure. It was new and fresh and featured our beloved Transformers in a live-action flick for the first time - it was so exciting. Plus the movie was friggin' hilarious at times. Then ROTF came out and I left the theater thinking I just completely wasted 2 1/2 hours and $10, (although when I watched it a 2nd time I didn't think it was that bad).

With Dark of the Moon it seems like they were trying to cram way too much into one movie, (how that's possible with a 153-minute running time I have no idea). Once-glorious villains were reduced to bit players and new characters which were completely superfluous were added, (referring mostly to the Wreckers but even some of the new human characters were unnecessary).

I hate to admit it but I kind of agree with the critics somewhat. That's not to say this is a bad movie by any means - I will be buying the Blu-ray the day it's released - it just didn't thrill me like I wanted it to. I'm thinking maybe 3 1/2 stars is fair.

Oh yeah, this has no bearing on my review at all but I was a little disappointed that Ratchet was relegated to C-list status once again. I had heard he played a larger role this time around but he really did nothing at all. He had 4 lines of dialogue, (two of which could easily be missed unless you're really paying attention), and wasn't involved in any direct confrontations with the Decepticons, (although I suppose that falls in line with his personality and dislike of violence). Oh and don't even get me started on Ironhide. I knew it was coming but it still sucked big time. At least he had one awesome scene before it happened.

I've been following this thread since seeing the movie on Thursday. I just couldn't formulate my own reply until now.

I kept pondering the question of "Did I really like the movie?" I felt guilty for my initial impression being "no". Love the first one, loved the second one and never understood the hate for it. I have been utterly salivating to see the bots on big screen again. The time was dragging on. The toys came out and I thought LC Sentinel as really cool looking and majestic. Everything was feeling like a slam dunk.

However, I've taken DAYS now to compose my thoughts. And now I can answer my own questions for the most part.



Were the effects the best of the series? Yes, absolutely. It'd be foolish to deny this. But I didn't feel the magic of the first or second one anymore either. The arrival of the autobots in the first movie, the intro scenes for Ironhide and Optimus in the second one, the revival of Prime in the second and then his combination with Jetfire, and finally the endings to both with Prime delivering a message (although the first movie's end message was better). DOTM had none of this for me. It was purely a technical affair this time around. It didn't romance me the same way, get my imagination running.

For some reason the human parts in this one, all the parents, sam and carly interactions, and the job search just really felt awkward this time. I mean the human scenes haven't ever been great, I usually fast forward thru them on DVD. But I have always gone and sat thru them at the theater more than once. I think I saw the first one 3-4 times in theater and saw ROTF twice. I really feel no need to go and see this again. Sure, it's 85% likely I will buy the dvd or bluray, but I know I will never watch it all the way thru again.

I think the difference to this time around was it just didn't feel fun. It was almost a task to watch it. Somewhere it felt like to me that they bowed to criticism of the last one so much that they changed too much in response. Darker, duller interactions, sad. I for one have liked that they were just happy go lucky popcorn movies to this point. It was FUN to kill a couple hours or so in the theater watching parts fly off the bots. Didn't feel it was fun this time, I just kept wondering how bad it was going to get and which one of my favorites was going to be killed off next. It was too tense basically. If the series had started this way it would be one thing. But the tone shift lost me along the way here.

It wasn't a bad movie and I'm not saying it sucked. It was an okay movie. I don't feel like my money was wasted (33 bucks for 2 tickets though - wtf cinemas??)to see it. I do feel though that it's good it was so wrapped up at the end because if my enthusiasm was so low this time, it will just make it harder for them to milk it for a fourth movie. And if/when it comes out, I can just say my trilogy is complete anyhow. I'm not sorry I saw it, but for me it wraps the story up and I feel like I can move on.

For me - DOTM - 7/7.5 out of 10

In the end, I'm not even certain why it's not a 9/10 for me. I just know it wasn't as much fun as I had hoped. Completely illogical considering how much I was looking forward to it. Yet after leaving this time, I'm content to wait to see it again.

Pontimax 01 wrote:
I think the difference to this time around was it just didn't feel fun. It was almost a task to watch it.

Spot on. My girlfriend and I felt exactly the same way. A few reviews said this movie was exhausting to watch and not really in a good way. I kind of have to agree.

i didnt hate the movie as much as rotf, i dont think that was possible.

From what i saw i think this was Bay back on the leash.

With the original he had to hold back on the ridiculous jokes and nonsense.

With its success, he was allowed free reign in ROFT, resulting in the twins, the god awful scenes with the parents etc, which were more excruciating and humour less than the original.

Here he listened to criticism, so no racist twins, or stereotypes (well not much), less parent time, more action, better shot. And if even a homosexual character portrayed in an empowering manner :-O


But the best thing ROTF did, was it made me be generous to this movie. I still didnt like the following

- the humour wasnt funny
- the wasted TF characters
- the lack of screen time for TF's
- too much US military adventures, I would rather see battle that led to bots getting captured than the 20 minutes in the building.
- the pointless human characters. Was malkovich role needed. And if so couldnt they combine him with ken weong, cutting down screen time and the "jokes". Ditto withy simmons and tudyk, simmons
could have taken his role (denying us positive gay role in bay movie so maybe not a good idea,)


But i was more forgiving because it wasnt ROTF.

Even more powerfully, I watched the original 2007 release last night, and axctually enjoyed it for the first time. The humour is more natural (aside from master bates scene) the humans less annoying, the bots more noble.

Michaela is a true bad ass, she shuns the jock, chooses to go on the adventure, gets in the heart of the action, doesnt take crap for her past. And at the end she is a hero, she refuses to leave bee behind. And then re-engages in the battle. And i think megan's acting was not so bad

It took rotf to make me appreciate the original and to look favourably on DOTM

Well, I'm brand new here but not new to these movies or Transformers in general.(Though I'm really only familiar with the original animated series, the 86 movie and the first few years of the comic books...a G1 fan for sure.) I'm not purest as I was okay with some of the changes made in the first Bay film, in fact I LOVED the first Bay film. Seeing it the first time in the theater was like living my childhood all over again. I kind of liked TF2 as well . . . even though lots of people hated it. I didn't have as the issues with it that other people had but I knew it could have been a lot better. I was totally pumped up for this one...I avoided almost all SPOILERS, didn't read any reviews, except for one or two really general ones (which praised the film) and the only thing I ever read from the film makers was that Shockwave was going to be the main villain....sounded pretty cool to me. Then me and a buddy went to see it last night.....and I was very let down.

I didn't hate the movie. It was good, but it didn't have that "holy crap I'm watching Transformers" feeling that TF1 did when I saw it. Even TF2 had a few of those moments with the inclusion of energon, seeing Soundwave, Ravage etc. Okay seeing Laserbeak and Shockwave may have been two of those moments but that was sort of it. This had awesome special effects. I mean they were mind blowing, but the whole movie kind of underwhelmed me.

I really, really didn't care for the girl. I really cringed every time she was on screen. I know people said they liked her, but to me she was a terrible actress. They should have just cut out the love story thing all together...the actress and Shia had ZERO on screen chemistry. My God, the parents have more chemistry than these two. I can't see the Sam character from the first 2 movies hooking up with a snob like Carly either. She really ruined every scene she was in for me.

And what happened to Shockwave being the main villain? He did nothing but act as a sort of a bounty hunter or something...huh? I didn't get it at all. If I recall Shockwave was kind of the mad scientist for the Cons....should he have been the one inventing the space bridge and all that?

It was a "good popcorn movie" I guess, but I was really underwhelmed. It did have lots of moments I liked; Optimus Prime was great as always. I liked the whole idea of the crashed ship being on the moon, the government cover up etc. Kind of a neat idea. OTH some of thia doesn't fit in with TF1 so not all of it made sense. Ironhead's death was actually pretty visceral and worked well . . . but it was also disturbing (which it was supposed to be). As others have said Prime should have made more of a big deal out of it though; Ironhide was killed and then never mentioned again. His death should have meant more for the whole story and not just as a plot device to turn Galvatron...I mean Sentinel Prime bad.

I purposely avoided SPOILERS this time a round because I didn't want to read all the negative fanboy nitpicks as I did with 1 and 2, but having seen it totally fresh kind of made me realize that whoever wrote this didn't care about continuity with the previous 2 films one bit but about getting good action sequences on film for 3D. I saw it in 2D and I wonder if people who saw it in 3D tend to give it better reviews than those who saw it in 2D? Anyways it was a good movie, I'm glad I saw it, but as weird as this sounds, in retrospect I feel like TF1 is actually captures that G1 feel more than any of the others. I know, it sounds weird but that's the way it is for me. I'm sure I buy on DVD, but the first film will always be my favorite of the 3.

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Were the effects the best of the series? Yes, absolutely. It'd be foolish to deny this. But I didn't feel the magic of the first or second one anymore either. The arrival of the autobots in the first movie, the intro scenes for Ironhide and Optimus in the second one, the revival of Prime in the second and then his combination with Jetfire, and finally the endings to both with Prime delivering a message (although the first movie's end message was better). DOTM had none of this for me. It was purely a technical affair this time around. It didn't romance me the same way, get my imagination running.

I think you nailed it for me as well. The magic was gone. Not because I'm tired of Transformers...I can watch the first film over and over again. It's one of my favorite movies ever. I even double dipped to buy the bluray! Like you I didn't hate ROTF either. It wasn't perfect and the ending was too rushed, but I really kind of liked the second one. (not as much as the first though). This was just....okay! Like you said I didn't hate it, but I didn't LOVE it either. I'm buy it just to have all three, but it's not gonna be a movie I rewatch over and over again like I do with TF1.

For some reason the human parts in this one, all the parents, sam and carly interactions, and the job search just really felt awkward this time.

I think the Carly thing was just horrible. If there was anything I hated about this movie it was her. She was just terrible IMO. And it isn't because I'm hot for Megan Fox....I mean she's attractive (more so than this Carly actress IMO) but as far as looks go but she ain't exactly got that look that I go for. However I think Makaela is a much better character and Fox is a better actress than this new girl. Carly ruined everything she was in for me....especially when she starts talking to Megatron as if she all of a sudden knows exactly who is and knows all about the Cybertronians. I mean, what? Didn't she spend 90% of the movie basically saying she knew nothing about the robots and didn't even believe that Sam worked with them? All of a sudden she's carrying on a dialogue with Megatron? One could definitely see this was meant for Makaela who DID have a history with them and Megatron would have recognized HER....but not this blond chick. She just didn't work for me.

I think the difference to this time around was it just didn't feel fun. It was almost a task to watch it. Somewhere it felt like to me that they bowed to criticism of the last one so much that they changed too much in response. Darker, duller interactions, sad. I for one have liked that they were just happy go lucky popcorn movies to this point. It was FUN to kill a couple hours or so in the theater watching parts fly off the bots. Didn't feel it was fun this time, I just kept wondering how bad it was going to get and which one of my favorites was going to be killed off next. It was too tense basically. If the series had started this way it would be one thing. But the tone shift lost me along the way here.

Exactly! They sucked the fun out of it! The Ironhide death scene was actually a little bit gut wrenching....it kind of reminded me of how I felt when Prime died in the 86 movie...of course then I was just a kid so I was traumatized by that image. Ironhide's death worked BUT it never was truly avenged either, at least I don't think. I'm sure I'll buy the thing on DVD or Bluray just to have it but I won't watch it over and over again. Too dark and Shockwave LOOKED like Shockwave but that's about it. Soundwave was turned into an executioner, that's not how I remember that character either. Visually it was an awesome movie, but it's the least favorite of the trilogy for me and I thought it was going to be my favorite. Go figure!

From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

Gemini220 wrote:From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

Nobody was expecting oscar material, but this movie was a let down for me too. This time around, there was no memorial battle scenes like in the first two movies, Ironhide was completely wasted for a cheap emotional response, and the aftermath of that , he was totally spit on. There were supposed to be more Transformers and not as many humans, and well, it's worse this time around. I also thought Carly was just boring and would have preferred Mikaela character to be brought back (just use a different actress, it's been done before)

The pacing of this movie was atrocious. Let's see, what would I have done for quick fixes. Stick Megan Fox back in, have her be killed at the base by Sentinel instead of Ironhide. Ironhide, well, we just think he's dead. Kill the parents off, get rid of Sam's job searching and his boss, have Dillon be his boss and backstabbing him. He kidnaps Lennox's family, and they have to rescue them instead of Carly. I think it would be fun having Starscream call Megatron Sentinel's bitch, would be more fitting. Optimus is about to be wasted by Sentinel, Shockwave and Megatron, the other Autobots getting ready to be wasted by the other Decepticons, when Epps and Ironhide come rolling in with Optimus Prime's weapons trailer, and save the day.

Gemini220 wrote:From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

I never understood how people can get so worked up over movies. Are their lives so cushy and boring that watching a movie is the worst thing that can happen to them? Maybe some people just live to complain I guess.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

I never understood how people can get so worked up over movies. Are their lives so cushy and boring that watching a movie is the worst thing that can happen to them? Maybe some people just live to complain I guess.

Or perhaps it is that some people expect more from the film that they paid money to see.

Predaprince wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

I never understood how people can get so worked up over movies. Are their lives so cushy and boring that watching a movie is the worst thing that can happen to them? Maybe some people just live to complain I guess.

Or perhaps it is that some people expect more from the film that they paid money to see.

Not liking it is fine, but keep it in perspective. Don't spend several years complaining about a movie.

Well, I finally saw it yesterday at the Drive-in. Sorta bad quality but it didn't take too much from the movie. My only complaint going in is that I wasn't as excited as I was for ROTF and Movie 1. I'd almost just "gotten used" to it.

I have to say overall, I really liked it. I think it was equal to if not better than the first and definitely better than ROTF.

Sentinel was done pretty well I think. I already knew he was going to kill IronHide yet it was still pretty shocking. On that note, the Dreads were fantastic. Awesome design and they provided a cool little action scene but this is where one of my complaints lies. All of the fights in DOTM are 20 seconds or less. They really should've taken a cue from ROTF with it's drawn out action packed fight scenes. There were no "Forest Fights" in this one which was disappointing. Also...there was no actual reason for Sentinel to kill IronHide besides to show he was evil so...?

The next main thing I noticed was as everyone said, a lack of Robots. I didn't feel it was as bad as the first one, but it bothered me with 3 main things:Needed more Megatron, ShockWave, and StarScream. Megatron was hardly in it at all. His first scene is of him taking care of babies which sort of diverges from them wanting him to be killed, they needed to differ from the book more instead of showing him in a better light. StarScream was so minimal it wasn't even funny, as was ShockWave, StarScream just got a less cool death. I could deal with Sam killing him, that wasn't so bad, it's just how it happened. StarScream didn't get a chance to do anything besides blow up a ship. ShockWave...ohhh ShcokWave. He seemed incredibly awesome but then....only in the movie twice. Once to yell out "OPTIMUUUUUS" and another to be invincible for 8 minutes then get his face ripped off. He needed to be more of an actual character.

That brings me again to the fights. They all just seemed rushed. SoundWave kills Q, 30 seconds later he is dead. Dreads appear, Hatchet gets blown up in 30 seconds, CrowBar tries to kill IronHide (stupid CrowBar, stupid!) and he and CrankCase (or the Rastas as my mom took to calling them) died. Megatron appears at the end and just....dies. Instead of the random conflict, it should have made that more background in order to show the characters doing stuff. I noticed Mirage/Dino was almost gone for the entire second half of the movie...disappointing.

Lastly, there's Optimus. I had heard complaints of how brutal he is, and initially I agreed. Then I watched the movie. I think Optimus in DOTM was perfect. Nothing seemed unjustified, everything was his fault and so he went to make up for it. The single thing I would've changed involving Prime is the end. The book's ending just seemed a lot better to me, PLUS it was never resolved about revival of Cybertron, so the TransFormers just...die? However, if they still wanted Megatron to die, I think it should've ended with an epic fight scene. They could've at least given them both that rather than a 15 second death.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked it. It took a lot of good things and even the bad things I didn't dislike all that much. It's just that the movie's action had a very rushed feeling to it which made it more dull than it should have been.

It's also crazy how some are complaining that the fight scenes were to short but complained they were to long in ROTF??

Maybe if the film was 3hrs it could've satisfied some or now that I think about it maybe not because some would've still had things to complain about.

Gemini220 wrote:It's also crazy how some are complaining that the fight scenes were to short but complained they were to long in ROTF??

Maybe if the film was 3hrs it could've satisfied some or now that I think about it maybe not because some would've still had things to complain about.

Maybe some people have legitimate reasons for not liking the movie.

Gemini220 wrote:It's also crazy how some are complaining that the fight scenes were to short but complained they were to long in ROTF??

Maybe if the film was 3hrs it could've satisfied some or now that I think about it maybe not because some would've still had things to complain about.

When did people complain about fight length in ROTF? That's something I've never heard. I know people complained about the movie's length in general, but fight scene length? New to me.

Just watched TF3 and I found it just horrible. I'll try my best to avoid anything Michael Bay works on from now on.

Here's a great idea for a Transformers movie: leave out the main robot characters; brilliant decision Bay. Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Shockwave... let's give them all minor roles. Hey even Optimus we'll leave out for most of the movie.

This movie was trash.

So while the autobots are fighting the decepticons we have to suffer through watching humans running around collapsing buildings. We have to suffer through yet another "romance" story. Sam having to rescue his girlfriend yet again.

Shockwave should have had a more pivital role. But he gets killed by small arms fire from the humans... come on. We get several more decepticons but they stay anonymous. No combiner bots, no Omega Supreme or Aerial Bots.. it was just hugely disappointing.

I was hoping the space bridge would have also allowed the autobots to call in reinforcements. It would have been great to see Superion or Omega Supreme take out a bunch of decepticons. But we get nothing like that.

We mostly get a story about the humans with the Transformers as window dressing. I kindof suspect that some of this may be due to limitations in technology. Perhaps their animators and computers simply can't create a Transformers movie where we see the robots for most of the movie.

Shockwave should have had a more pivital role. But he gets killed by small arms fire from the humans... come on. We get several more decepticons but they stay anonymous. No combiner bots, no Omega Supreme or Aerial Bots.. it was just hugely disappointing.

Eh combiners and such would've made it a bit cluttered I think, just a bit overkill. ShockWave wasn't even affected by humans. One guy landed on him and attempted to shoot his eye but it did nothing. Optimus was the one to kill him, tearing out his side and ripping off his face.

kiloprime wrote:
This movie was trash.

So while the autobots are fighting the decepticons we have to suffer through watching humans running around collapsing buildings. We have to suffer through yet another "romance" story. Sam having to rescue his girlfriend yet again.

Shockwave should have had a more pivital role. But he gets killed by small arms fire from the humans... come on. We get several more decepticons but they stay anonymous. No combiner bots, no Omega Supreme or Aerial Bots.. it was just hugely disappointing.

I was hoping the space bridge would have also allowed the autobots to call in reinforcements. It would have been great to see Superion or Omega Supreme take out a bunch of decepticons. But we get nothing like that.

We mostly get a story about the humans with the Transformers as window dressing. I kindof suspect that some of this may be due to limitations in technology. Perhaps their animators and computers simply can't create a Transformers movie where we see the robots for most of the movie.

The collapsing building was cool. Humans didn't do a damn thing to Shockwave. Optimus came in and kicked his ass. There are no more Autobot reinforcements. Every reachable Autobot has been on earth. And if they had robots for most of the movie, there would be no point in it being live action. Plus it costs a fortune to make a mostly CG live action movie. DOTM was already the most expensive movie ever, so WTF more do you want?

SlyTF1 wrote:

kiloprime wrote:
This movie was trash.

So while the autobots are fighting the decepticons we have to suffer through watching humans running around collapsing buildings. We have to suffer through yet another "romance" story. Sam having to rescue his girlfriend yet again.

Shockwave should have had a more pivital role. But he gets killed by small arms fire from the humans... come on. We get several more decepticons but they stay anonymous. No combiner bots, no Omega Supreme or Aerial Bots.. it was just hugely disappointing.

I was hoping the space bridge would have also allowed the autobots to call in reinforcements. It would have been great to see Superion or Omega Supreme take out a bunch of decepticons. But we get nothing like that.

We mostly get a story about the humans with the Transformers as window dressing. I kindof suspect that some of this may be due to limitations in technology. Perhaps their animators and computers simply can't create a Transformers movie where we see the robots for most of the movie.

DOTM was already the most expensive movie ever, so WTF more do you want?

Not even close. Not even sure it's in the top 10 with a budget of $195 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mo ... sive_films

No Death for Prowl wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:It's also crazy how some are complaining that the fight scenes were to short but complained they were to long in ROTF??

Maybe if the film was 3hrs it could've satisfied some or now that I think about it maybe not because some would've still had things to complain about.

Maybe some people have legitimate reasons for not liking the movie.

Fare enough but just goes back to what I said earlier it's Movie don't go in it expecting it to be the best thing since sliced bread and that goes for any movie!

The average movie goer is not the hardcore fan that are on boards like this. They are those who remember the Transformers from their childhood & were excited that a live action movie was about them. Went to movies with their kids and had a good time.

It didn't feel like I was watching Transformers (You could have replaced the Decepticons with Aliens and the story would have worked lol), one thing I dislike about this franchise is that the Transformers take a back seat to a human perspective storyline. That Sector 7 guy had more lines than Shockwave!!! If CGI costs are an issue - why not do more vehicle/alt mode scenes???


*Pros
Awesome special effects
Great Action sequences

*Cons
Not enough Decepticons - Starscream/Megatron(worst deaths ever)Shockwave/Soundwave
Poor plot
Too much goofy humour
Too many humans eating screentime AGAIN


Overall:
1/10

The 1 is because it's called Transformers

I haven't seen it mentioned, so I'll throw it out there.

Did anyone else notice that when Prime and Prime were out rolling around together, Optimus was towing his trailer then as well. But when it cut to them in robot mode and Optimus tried to pass the matrix, there was literally no sign of the trailer. No trailer in any of the background shots. This happened one or two more times as well. I really had to laugh because I thought they did it deliberately to poke fun at the cartoon.

Dear ALL,

Great movie in terms of special effects although i particularly dont like transformers movie line... anyway, yes its a must forany transf. fan, but then again thats not what transformers is about! Its pure violence with no sense at all without counting the film major flaws in the story! they have giant serpent octopus like robots (very matrix like shockwave pet)but they need HUMANS! HUMANS ! to rebuild seibertron?! WTF! they bring it to earths orbit, still no atmosphere for humans to breath there! appart from the fact that having such a big mass near earth would practically destroy earth!
no mention at all of their lack of energon!
Megatron has no personality during the film. Sentinel prime is the evil guy but not really he was only trying to rebuild seibertron with puny little humans wich they would have to feed in order to make them work...
at that point harvesting the sun was a much better idea.
Ironhide, ratchet everyone, all our beloved characters are just metallic puppets, no life, no feeling not even when ironhide dies! theres no way not fans can actually feel anything for ironhide, we do, yes we know who he is... but the character was not developed at all! the same with the other only bumblebee gets a bit more timescreen, but to tied to witwicky for him to seem an individual!
YEs great 3 hours of special effects... but they managed to turn the transformers franchise into a " ALIEN attack film" ID4 developed better character feelings! some of you will say, ok give it a break it was entertaining... i also think that, but its definetly not transformers!
And why if sentinel prime was about to betray the autobots, he was shooted down by decepticons?!
wheeljack its definetly not Q! not at all! totally different character if you can call him that.
the comic book adaptation was actually better written than the film. What can only save us now, maybe a new movie, maybe an adaptation of the original transformers the movie with rodimous and ultramagnus, sad to say but probably the only way to get away from the optimus and megatron they have managed to create, away from humans and their need to have more screen time and back to transformers roots maybe introducing the unicron concept, not even mentioned in the film.
good points about the film, maybe laserbeck, he atually gets a new likable evil personality!
shockwave what a waste of screen time!such a rich character saying only two words almost!

then again i have to repeat it, very nice effects, very realistic but they ruined transformers to a new generation, i wouldnt even take a kid to watch it! too violent! not even one good moral value from optimus!
come on guys transformers was good to watch for a kid back in 1987, it had a solid story, it had several philosophical concepts fro the nature of sentient beings to civilization and the lack of gender... this film is sold by hollywood as a kids film (toy franchise all around not targeted to fans) but its full of what i call free violence, good form me that can actually try to discern from reality but not for small kids! goofy jokes where not enought to approach that population cohort, worst, it was actually sex related, no point with robots that have no sex! they ruined wheelie! Yes they have made millions in box office but its not transfomers! they could have made will smith fly an airplane and it was ID4.

not happy at all, i just hope they would make a story rich actioned packed film.

I think it's the best out of the three movies... mainly because it doesn't look too much like a Michael Bay movie hahahaha... can't stand those camera tricks he pulls out. Filming in 3D probably makes it unable to move the camera too much if you want people to see the 3D effect. So that's a good thing I guess...

I didn't liked the movie anyway... too long... I was enjoying it at first but then it started getting too tedious and I was willing it to end. I think they tryied to put too much into one movie. There was some cool ideas going on like the space bridge thing and the humans working with decepticons... overall the plot is better than the other movies.

One thing I don't understand is when people sees the transformers movies as action-packed flicks... there's barely no action in DOTM, except the highway scene, some random short scenes and all the chicago thing. And when the action comes is boring and badly paced... Bay is suposed to be one of the best action movie directors, but the action scenes here sucked.

All the chicago action was slowly paced and the scenes were disconected. One minute we see bumblebee saving sam and lennox and they are in the side of the river unable to go to the other side... and the next minute we see bumblebee captured by the decepticons... how this happened?

Some other thing that bothers me is the disaperance and introduction of some characters... where are jolt, arcee and the twins? where did dino,Q, brains and the wreckers come from and why?

Also... what's up with transformers flying ships now? In the first two movies their means to getting to earth was those meteor crashing thing. MB said that he found stupid that in the cartoon transfomers used space ships because they should be able to transform into flying vehicles. But now we have decepticons riding those flying things... Why not make more decepticons with flying alt-modes? And rather than having sam and bumblebee piloting the ship to save carly they could have used a flying alt-mode autobot, that could have been much cooler...

some positive things now...

Sentinel Prime. Cool character and I liked the plot twist a lot. Really unexpected and well done.

Carly. People say the new actress does a better job than Megan Fox, but I think it's mainly because his role is better. She serves a purpose in the plot. While in ROTF, mikaela doesn't.

Patrick Dempsey's character. Really liked him.

Megatron death... really cool... loved the view of his head chopped off and optimus axe stacked in... hahahaha. I don't think it was unnecesary or that Optimus was too brutal. Megatron is the bad guy and deserved to die. And we all now that he will have killed optimus if he had have the chance in the future. Sentinel prime death on the other hand... I think I will just have let him die after saying his last words, not necesary to have optimus give the last shot.

Barricade... Cool to see him back and I loved when he is getting mad at some random 'cons for letting bee scape.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:From alot of the reviews I've read here with people shredding this movie to bits a few questions?

Where you expecting an Oscar type movie?
Did you submit scrips to Bay & Co?
What cartoon, comic book, action figure made into a live action film has been perfect?

People have hated the first 3 Star Wars movies which were excellent. People have love or hated the Superman, Batman, XMEN, Ironman movies but the key word is Movies. You go to escape from the real world for a few hrs, some take it as though it's the end of the world because "Their favorite cartoon, comic book, action figure characters etc" wasn't The Movie they wanted it.

I'm pretty sure this time around he had alot of input on do's & don'ts, how things should go who knows.

It's just wild reading these responses.

As for when I said people were applauding, why do some clap & cheer after riding a roller-coaster?

I never understood how people can get so worked up over movies. Are their lives so cushy and boring that watching a movie is the worst thing that can happen to them? Maybe some people just live to complain I guess.

Totally agree there. I guess all these "film critics" gotta complain about something, though. I just saw the movie for the second time today, and I have to say the second time around was better. But hey, I don't know movies like the "film critics" on this site.

Whatever happened to just going to a movie and enjoying it for what it's worth. Some people are slamming this movie like they have seen the Transformers land on earth and are telling us "that's not how it happened". Plus those who say it is more like an "alien movie"- technically, they are of alien origin since they came from a planet not our own. And like the others just said, "IT'S A FREAKIN' MOVIE" for Cybertron's sake......