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Well, since I can't see it, I guess I'll have to go on what I've seen from Ryan's gallery & what I've heard. The gimmick dosen't seem all that great. It sounds like they put in a near-worthless gimmick just so they could slap "hey, gimmick! look!" on the side of the package. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't stores like Wal-mart anymore have hasbro come up with some kind of gimmick for no other reason than to say that this year's line of toys is completely different than last year's, therefore giving little billy a justifiable reason for his soccer mom to buy him another toy?
You know, kinda like how all the Sigma 6 Commando figures now have a pointless LED light in the package. They've come up with better gimmicks in the past. & aside from the general design of it, there would also be the possible problem of it not working properly, making a TF with lop-sided features.

You know, one thing I think would make a neat gimmick would be heat-sensitive battle damage. Just have certain panels & such on the TFs that when you touch it, it changes color & looks like it has some carbon scoring on it. I've seen it on one of my daughter's littlest pet shop toys to make a sick gecko have spots that come & go....& it's a neat little feature that would be great for making a TF that didn't have to be designed to work around a mechanical gimmick.....

....but that's just me.

Anyway, gimmick or otherwise, I'll be getting probably at least 1 figure per character, so wether you consider my opinion negative or not, I'll still be funding said gimmick for those that just really like it.


But as far as people complaining....I know it seems disheartening at times, but as far as I can tell, complaining as a whole has done nothing but make for stronger lines, & better & more detailed TF's, & more of the characters we care about. I mean, somewhere down the line, somebody complained that there never was a figure for Unicron made....& now we have one (or should I say 2?). People complained that they didn't have any Combiners since G1, & they made 3 new ones for Energon. Some one complained that there never has been a version of Prime that transformed that looked show-accurate in robot mode, & now we have the 20th Prime. Some one complained that they never made a decent homage to both G1 Skyfire & Jetfire, & now we have the perfection of the Classics version. Some people complained about slapping a Ravage head on Tracks's body, & now they're making the Jaguar version of him. People complained that they weren't making toys of the War Within designs, & now we have some via the Titanium series, with more to come. Sure, none of the examples have gone without complaint, but with each valid complaint came a better and more awsome figure.

Anyway, there's my 35 cents.

Er....AK's kinda right. Even G1 Hound had this feature. Swing his front tires back during transformation and his iddle biddie arms popped out. Kinda too bad he didn't have a storage compartment for all the extra crap you had to leave off in robot mode (gas can, spare tire, 50 Cal.).

Maximal Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Oh, let me tell you how many figures I own now that I could care less about but I bought them so that I could create galleries to share with all of you.

I know man. And as a fan, I thank you

Me Too

As for the topic, I refer to my previous statment, and hope for some cool toy gimmicks to come out of all this. But until, I see it for myself, I reserve judgement.

As for my reason in quoting this, well Terorgator is one of my favorite Beast Wars figures. He never made it to the show, and died out with the rest of the Fuzors who didn't make the show. Nobody gave him a chance, but I think he offers great posability and has cool weapons. Still he's shunned as a joke.

The point, one man's trash is another's treasure, or for better words, to each their own, so give it a try.

Seems cool.
That pic of Starscreams "automorphing" actually looks pretty b!tchin, kinda like some of the cyber-key stuff, but without the weapons...

Another Movie thread in ruins...alas.

Either way, this is a great gimmick. No stupid keys or Mini-Cons, but something that isn't very noticable. Subtle. Okay, maybe not subtle. But still, it's obvious that the movie will not revolve around their special function used when they transform, so no worries. Cybertron, Energon, and Armada season 1 went down in quality because the gimmick was the show's basis.

Sounds cool to me. I just want a Bumblebee now!

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Well, since I can't see it, I guess I'll have to go on what I've seen from Ryan's gallery & what I've heard.

Yeah, what happened to the link?

Autobobby1 wrote:Another Movie thread in ruins...alas.

Either way, this is a great gimmick. No stupid keys or Mini-Cons, but something that isn't very noticable. Subtle. Okay, maybe not subtle. But still, it's obvious that the movie will not revolve around their special function used when they transform, so no worries. Cybertron, Energon, and Armada season 1 went down in quality because the gimmick was the show's basis.

Sounds cool to me. I just want a Bumblebee now!

That would be the shows' writers fault, not Hasbro's. Beast Wars was full of gimmicks (mutant heads, transmetal, fuzors), & the story did not suffer from it, because they did not make it the focus of every last episode....in fact the underlying story was just about always about the golden disks & the Vok, neither of which were toy gimmicks.

The Unicron trillogy simply suffered from having Japanese writers that were trying to do nothing more than make 20 min toy commercials, & a dubbing company that cared even less.

Go! Go! Automorphing Rangers!

Is the clip going to be reposted?

Honestly I love this gimmick. And I don't really connect this with the old flipformers. With those you flipped a lever and the ass end or head would flip over to make the chest. These seem to be much more involved containing at least 3 or 4 pieces in each occurrence. It honestly gives the same look as the transformations in the movie where the single piece splits up into a bunch of sections.

I'm concerned about the durability of the automorph technology. If the levers and gears are made of plastic then over time they may develop stress marks. With that said I kinda like the idea since I've always felt that Transformers that transformed themselves made sense. Think of the cartoon, you never saw a pair of giant hands coming out of the sky to help Optimus Prime transform did you?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Think of the cartoon, you never saw a pair of giant hands coming out of the sky to help Optimus Prime transform did you?

No, they came out of a billboard and forced Blaster to transform.

FlameStrike wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Think of the cartoon, you never saw a pair of giant hands coming out of the sky to help Optimus Prime transform did you?

No, they came out of a billboard and forced Blaster to transform.

There was also the episode where they landed in an alien kid's bedroom, & he played with them like toys untill he found out they weren't.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

FlameStrike wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Think of the cartoon, you never saw a pair of giant hands coming out of the sky to help Optimus Prime transform did you?

No, they came out of a billboard and forced Blaster to transform.

There was also the episode where they landed in an alien kid's bedroom, & he played with them like toys untill he found out they weren't.

Ahh yes "Childs Play" a real gem from the G1 era. I guess I was wrong.

FlameStrike wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Well, since I can't see it, I guess I'll have to go on what I've seen from Ryan's gallery & what I've heard.

Yeah, what happened to the link?

Just for the record ... I can't even tell what or where the Automorph feature is on Ratchet. So like I said early on in this thread, we're all arguing/complaining for nothing. I've transformed this thing 3 times now and the only thing I can see on the figure that is even close to an "automorph" feature is this thing that automatically happens when you fold his feet down. The knee cap slides up and, interestingly enough, the inner parts of his legs where the calf muscle would be on a human, "bulges" out. It's pretty cool ... but certainly nothing to complain about for 6 pages. The "automorph" feature is more prominent on the Starscream figure when the front of the jet "explodes" into the form that it takes on his chest.

Seibertron wrote:

FlameStrike wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Well, since I can't see it, I guess I'll have to go on what I've seen from Ryan's gallery & what I've heard.

Yeah, what happened to the link?

Just for the record ... I can't even tell what or where the Automorph feature is on Ratchet. So like I said early on in this thread, we're all arguing/complaining for nothing. I've transformed this thing 3 times now and the only thing I can see on the figure that is even close to an "automorph" feature is this thing that automatically happens when you fold his feet down. The knee cap slides up and, interestingly enough, the inner parts of his legs where the calf muscle would be on a human, "bulges" out. It's pretty cool ... but certainly nothing to complain about for 6 pages. The "automorph" feature is more prominent on the Starscream figure when the front of the jet "explodes" into the form that it takes on his chest.

Nice subtle hint you just dropped there boss.

Seibertron wrote:

FlameStrike wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Well, since I can't see it, I guess I'll have to go on what I've seen from Ryan's gallery & what I've heard.

Yeah, what happened to the link?

Just for the record ... I can't even tell what or where the Automorph feature is on Ratchet. So like I said early on in this thread, we're all arguing/complaining for nothing. I've transformed this thing 3 times now and the only thing I can see on the figure that is even close to an "automorph" feature is this thing that automatically happens when you fold his feet down. The knee cap slides up and, interestingly enough, the inner parts of his legs where the calf muscle would be on a human, "bulges" out. It's pretty cool ... but certainly nothing to complain about for 6 pages. The "automorph" feature is more prominent on the Starscream figure when the front of the jet "explodes" into the form that it takes on his chest.

Eh, I think people were just compaining about TF toy gimmicks gimmicks & the new movie designs in general.

Seibertron wrote:

FlameStrike wrote:Yeah, what happened to the link?

Just for the record ... I can't even tell what or where the Automorph feature is on Ratchet. So like I said early on in this thread, we're all arguing/complaining for nothing.

OK, I'm confused. How does that answer my question about the link?

FlameStrike wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

FlameStrike wrote:Yeah, what happened to the link?

Just for the record ... I can't even tell what or where the Automorph feature is on Ratchet. So like I said early on in this thread, we're all arguing/complaining for nothing.

OK, I'm confused. How does that answer my question about the link?

The answer is Bandwidth, deal with it. If you want to see what it looks like go grab a flashlight and flick it on and off with your thumb. Just as exciting and informative.

Hey, wtf. When did Don Murphy get Ryan's forum password?