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Sunbow Transformers Deleted Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:10 am
by Va'al
Fellow Transformers fansite Transformers @ The Moon, purveyors of rarities and hidden gems in all incarnations of the franchise, have recently cracked open the listening devices, and unearthed a deleted scene from the original More Than Meets the Eye pt 1 episode of the Generation 1 animated series - or at least, its audio! You can find a full transcript for the recording below, as well as checking it out directly with the embedded YouTube clip. Let us know what you make of this in the Energon Pub! Is there anything else you'd be willing to find out more about, too?

Transformers More than Meets the Eye Part 1 deleted scene audio: teaser

This video contains a sample of the audio taken from the original Sunbow Productions unslugged cassette tape "MP4023 Transformers Day 1 Unslugged". The audio is from the opening act and contains two extended pieces of dialogue and the audio for a scene that was removed from the final cartoon production.

The missing scene is between Wheeljack and Bumblebee with the first extended dialogue also between the two with the second being Soundwaves.

Below you will find a transcript of the dialogue with the new pieces of dialogue and missing scene clearly marked.

Transcript
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WHEELJACK: Uh-oh. A Decepticon welcoming committee!

*NEW* BUMBLEBEE: Lets crash it!

*NEW* WHEELJACK: [laugh] Good idea! I'll raise my deflector shields

SEEKER #1: Autobots! Stop them!

BUMBLEBEE: Prime told me there'd be days like this!

WHEELJACK: Heh, and you didn't believe him?

BUMBLEBEE: I do now!

WHEELJACK: We've gotta get these energy conductors back to Iacon!

BUMBLEBEE: I'm right behind ya!

WHEELJACK: Mind if I cut in?

*NEW* SEEKER #1: Halt! Stop him! Don't let him pass!

*NEW* SEEKER #1, Thundercracker, Skywarp: Urgh Argh Errgh

[direction from Wally Burr]

*NEW* SEEKER #1, Thundercracker, Skywarp: [beat dialogue]

WHEELJACK: Bumblebee! Get in, quick! You all right?

BUMBLEBEE: Yeah. I th... think it's my rear axle.

WHEELJACK: Well, hang on to your crankshaft! I'm shiftin' into overdrive!

THUNDERCRACKER: They've gone underground. We'll never catch 'em now!

SKYWARP: We've gotta report back to Megatron.

WHEELJACK: Wheeljack to Iacon. We're comin' in!

**** Missing Scene Starts ****

*NEW* RATCHET: You'll survive Bumblebee, they just blew away your universal joint

*NEW* BUMBLEBEE: Yeah and my rear axle and my tyres

*NEW* OPTIMUS PRIME: But you made it back safely Bumblebee, good work.

*NEW* BUMBLEBEE: [joyful] thanks Optimus Prime, I'm only sorry we couldn't find mroe energy conductors

*NEW* OPTIMUS PRIME: Maybe Jazz will find some

**** Missing Scene Ends ****

SOUNDWAVE: Laserbeak, prepare for flight. Destination: Iacon. Operation: assimilation.

SOUNDWAVE: Laserbeak, Autobot alert!

*NEW* SOUNDWAVE: Transformation required!

SOUNDWAVE: Disclosure averted. Continue observation.



Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:07 am
by Kurona
Woah, so Sunstorm was originally going to have lines?

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:14 am
by It Is Him
Holy Toledo! It raises the question, is there more surviving audio of deleted scenes?

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:26 am
by Moonbug
It Is Him wrote:Holy Toledo! It raises the question, is there more surviving audio of deleted scenes?
- Yes and my brother and I shall be posting more over the coming weeks / months until we run out of surviving material from the unslugged and slugged tapes.

Expect more deleted scenes and a little more Wally Burr guidance

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:17 am
by o.supreme
Good stuff. Much of this can probably actually be inserted into existing video by some clever fans out there who have more time and resources than I do. ;)

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:49 am
by Hero Alpha
This is awesome, can't wait to hear the others. Good work guys and thanks. Just begs for Masterpiece ReAnimatedhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzo0rWyQdCznorrvd-OzEBA to do these deleted scenes. That would be incredibly sweet.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:50 pm
by jamarmiller
Thank you for posting this !!!!

someone really needs to create the EXTENDED EDITION of this and other episodes, fairly easy ( just time consuming ) by splicing in the audio and using old cartoon footage and music and splicing it all together to make this episode the ultimate complete extended edition !

whos up to it ?

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:40 pm
by Ultra Markus
jamarmiller wrote:Thank you for posting this !!!!

someone really needs to create the EXTENDED EDITION of this and other episodes, fairly easy ( just time consuming ) by splicing in the audio and using old cartoon footage and music and splicing it all together to make this episode the ultimate complete extended edition !

whos up to it ?

hell yeah, imagine the entire series done like robotech's protoculture set
but this time in blu-ray ;)^

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:48 pm
by jamarmiller
exactly !

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:04 pm
by Sabrblade
Something tells me the extra scene with Ratchet repairing Bumblebee would have been Optimus's proper introduction scene, what with it coming before Jazz's return to Iacon (which is where Optimus first appears in the finalized episode) and with Bumblebee's unnaturally formal use of "Optimus Prime" spoken as though it was done for the audience's sake more than anything.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:04 am
by Cyberpath
The dropped lines aren't necessary and don't really add anything important, but it's great to hear new (old) sound-bytes after so many years! (And the behind-the-scenes directions from Wally Burr.) Thanks, Moonbug. Optimus Prime has the best voice. <3

Do you have any tapes from Enter the Nightbird? I'm curious if Chris Latta read the complete line: "Say good night to your Robotessa, Megatron!" (the line appear to have been cut in the final version.)

And if there are any more references to all the traps Shockwave had left behind for the Autobots in The Key to Vector Sigma.

This is pretty cool!

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:31 am
by jamarmiller
it really is an amazing discovery

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:10 am
by Moonbug
Cyberpath wrote:Do you have any tapes from Enter the Nightbird? I'm curious if Chris Latta read the complete line: "Say good night to your Robotessa, Megatron!" (the line appear to have been cut in the final version.)

And if there are any more references to all the traps Shockwave had left behind for the Autobots in The Key to Vector Sigma.

So far I do not believe we have audio for either of those episodes I'm afraid. Dave is still working through sorting and transferring the tapes. So far they have all survived but some are not as they are labelled.

So far the tapes we can confirm we have are:

Transformers
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More than Meets the Eye Pt 1 - Unslugged
More than Meets the Eye Pts 1& 2 - Slugged
More than Meets the Eye Pt2 - Unslugged
More than Meets the Eye Pt2 (copy)- Unslugged - Needs comparing to see if its a duplicate audio track or a different composite
More than Meets the Eye Pt2 - Slugged
More than Meets the Eye Pt3 - Unslugged
More than Meets the Eye Pt3 - Slugged
Roll For It - Unslugged
Roll For It - Slugged
Divide and Conquer - Unslugged
Divide and Conquer - Slugged
A Plague of the Insecticons - Unslugged


G.I.Joe
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The Revenge of Cobra Part 4: Battle on the roof of the world - Unslugged
Jungle Trap (slugged/unslugged TBC) - On B side to MTMTE Pt 3

Muppet Babies (yeah, not what was expected)
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Noisy Neighbors - Slugged

Visionaries
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7x BGM tapes
The Age Of Magic - Unslugged
Dawn of the Sun Imps - Unslugged
Excerpts from Dawn of the Sun Imps

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:34 am
by Cyberpath
Moonbug wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Do you have any tapes from Enter the Nightbird? I'm curious if Chris Latta read the complete line: "Say good night to your Robotessa, Megatron!" (the line appear to have been cut in the final version.)

And if there are any more references to all the traps Shockwave had left behind for the Autobots in The Key to Vector Sigma.

So far I do not believe we have audio for either of those episodes I'm afraid. Dave is still working through sorting and transferring the tapes. So far they have all survived but some are not as they are labelled.


I'm sure that whatever you guys can salvage from any episode will be great! Thanks for the work and sharing!

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:14 am
by 1984forever
Looking forward to hearing what got deleted from Roll for it, Divide and Conquer and Plague of the Insecticons. It feels great to get new G1 Sunbow stuff after all these years.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:34 am
by Sabrblade
It just hit me. Bumblebee sustained damage to his rear axle in this scene. Guess what the name of RID 2015 Bumblebee's favorite band is.

Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio: Part 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:41 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Fellow Fansite Transformers At The Moon has put up their second video highlighting deleted dialogue from the original Transformers Sunbow Cartoon. This new recording follows the Autobots and Decepticons as they leave Cybertron and head into the asteroid field. You can check out the video below, and you can let us know what you think in the comments section below!


Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:22 pm
by Sabrblade
A few more moments of character that add some nice additional touches to each scene. Shame these couldn't make it in, but with a cast of at least 30 characters and a 22-minute runtime, it's no wonder some things had to get excised.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:56 pm
by luks0r
I was waiting for this. It ALWAYS hit a subliminal nerve for me every time I watched this ep, when Prowl says "We ARE being followed", as if it were confirmation of a previous moment where he was uncertain. That moment was cut from the show! "Prime. I think we're being followed". Beautiful.

It's the little things.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:51 am
by jamarmiller
Okay , so , I'm going to do a fan extended edition edit on this, since I have not heard of anyone putting the episode together , if someone is doing one please tell me so I'm not waistling my time please

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:50 am
by Cyberpath
The way Cullen and Welker switch between Prime/Ironhide and Megatron/Mirage/Trailbreaker respectively..

And Latta's Starscream, often imitated but never duplicated.

I re-watched MTMTE today, I think it was well edited/cut, but it's nice to listen to these resurrected extended dialogues anyway! Thanks Moonbug & Dave!

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:55 am
by Coptur
Cyberpath wrote:And Latta's Starscream, often imitated but never duplicated.



So very true.

I for years have tried to do a G1 Latta Starscream.

I also wanted to audition for Machinimas Combiners Wars but never heard anything back, tbh I did assume it would only be for youtube boys club only :BANG_HEAD: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:

Trouble I find is getting the whines and shrieks correct.


Not to discredit Steve Blum but for modern Starscreams I much preferred Tom Kenny's Animated Starscream. Isaying that i hated the overly cowardly and weak Prime Starscream the updated form in RID15 is much more fitting for the character.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:30 am
by Moonbug
Just a heads up, the third video is going to go up in about 90 minutes time. This one has around 4 minutes of dialogue in a 5 minute video and features 2 new scenes, an extended scene and 3 increase dialogue scenes (i.e little pieces of extra dialogue).

Some notes. Skywarp is still the first to be revived and not Soundwave (unlike in the Ron Friedman script) and "thanks" from Prime was added later.

Oh and yes it includes the frisbee scene.

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:50 am
by 1984forever
Even the edited parts are good, although I am glad Welker changed Rumble's voice.

The voice actors, the world building, a cast of more than 5-6 mechs on either side... stuff like this is why more than 30 years later G1 is still the greatest. It's sad that we can never have this again because of reasons like-

"The voice actors are all almost dead and the director is sick"

"The cast of G1 was too big, there can only be 6 'bots in an army or we won't be able to tell a good story"

"There would be too many toys to sell"

"We can't draw like that anymore"

"G1 had too many standalone stories. We need an ENTIRE SEASON to tell a story now"

Re: Sunbow Transformers 'More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1' - Deleted Scene Audio

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:48 pm
by Moonbug
The third part is up on YouTube - https://youtu.be/adPpaO_aheY