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News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:17 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Looks good, although I am not a legends fan, still looks good.

Not a fan of Legends? Obviously you haven't handled one then. Cosmos is the shining star of an already amazing line. You're seriously missing out if you pass on this mold.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:56 pm

oh that's nice.

*preorders*

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:00 pm

shajaki wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks good, although I am not a legends fan, still looks good.
Not a fan of Legends? Obviously you haven't handled one then. Cosmos is the shining star of an already amazing line. You're seriously missing out if you pass on this mold.

I am not a big legends fan, but that doesn't mean I won't get this guy.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:20 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
shajaki wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks good, although I am not a legends fan, still looks good.
Not a fan of Legends? Obviously you haven't handled one then. Cosmos is the shining star of an already amazing line. You're seriously missing out if you pass on this mold.
I am not a big legends fan, but that doesn't mean I won't get this guy.

Saying you're not a Legends fan followed by >:oP

sends mixed signals there SS.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:59 pm

shajaki wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
shajaki wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks good, although I am not a legends fan, still looks good.
Not a fan of Legends? Obviously you haven't handled one then. Cosmos is the shining star of an already amazing line. You're seriously missing out if you pass on this mold.
I am not a big legends fan, but that doesn't mean I won't get this guy.
Saying you're not a Legends fan followed by sends mixed signals there SS.

I drink coffee if I want. ;P

I actually have been tempted to get Cosmos, the original version of the generations mold. And maybe even Swerve.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:03 pm

SillySpringer wrote:I actually have been tempted to get Cosmos, the original version of the generations mold. And maybe even Swerve.

You should go do that right now Silly. You won't be sorry.

News Credits: 4493 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:42 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait, so he's called Adams in English as well as Japanese?

That shocked me too. I like it though. We are getting Takara approved English names for our cataloguing pleasure. That further cements Shrapnel being the name for the Takara toy.

shajaki wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks good, although I am not a legends fan, still looks good.
Not a fan of Legends? Obviously you haven't handled one then. Cosmos is the shining star of an already amazing line. You're seriously missing out if you pass on this mold.

He is so good I had to make an exception in my upcoming Top 5 Scout Class figures to include him. He isn't a scout figure per say but he fits the description and initial mission statement of that class perfectly.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:20 am

This mold is certainly the best Cosmos but I just wish it was bigger. Maybe Voyager's stretching it but I wouldn't mind a Deluxe. He's just too dinky compared to my main TF figures and I have no desire to get any other smaller ones.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:45 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:This mold is certainly the best Cosmos but I just wish it was bigger. Maybe Voyager's stretching it but I wouldn't mind a Deluxe. He's just too dinky compared to my main TF figures and I have no desire to get any other smaller ones.

Remember the flak the super sized Seaspray got? That one was supposedly an upgrade of the original G1 Seaspray.

Anyway, being part of the TAV line, anyone notice that he does not come with the interactive decal thingie? They couldn't find a spot for him?

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:03 am

fenrir72 wrote:Remember the flak the super sized Seaspray got? That one was supposedly an upgrade of the original G1 Seaspray.

Super sized? The Voyager one from a few years back? I had that figure. It was a fantastic update and at a nice size. Powerglide too (though I never had that one but it was nice to finally see a bit more sense in scale).

I like the extra detail you get with the larger figures though. Like if Cosmos here was even a Deluxe he might get much better looking forearms with decent hands and not so obvious screws...

News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:40 am

I think the flak that Seaspray copped was more along the lines of the "Trukk not Munky" debate, ie "Minibots should stay minibots"

I have to say I love the new Cosmos mould, but a deluxe sized one would be that much better, and I'm still keeping an eye out for Seaspray...

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:52 am

With the US receiving its first airing of the Transformers: Robots in Disguise episode featuring Drift (voiced by Eric Bauza) this weekend, Takara Tomy designer Hisashi Yuki has tweeted a couple of comparison shots for the two companies' version of the character. Check out below the images showing the differences between Warrior class Drift (gallery here) and Transformers Adventure TAV-18 Drift, sporting a more accurate paint deco and application!

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:16 am

geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

by **Rated X** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:22 am

Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:07 am

Gotta agree with X here. I was all over the little details but looking at them side-by-side it's still not enough to get me to buy him. It's got some nice details but they just aren't enough for me to say really which is better. Unlike some of Takara offerings it just isn't worth the extra money.

I mean, it looks good...but it's a meh figure already and a few more paints aps do not make me want to buy it.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:32 am

"Wash,Rinse,Spin and Dry" repeat x infinity.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:48 am

Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.
If you really want "double the cost", go to Europe or Australia to buy your HASBRO TFs.

Now, please put the lid back on tha can of worm.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:02 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.
If you really want "double the cost", go to Europe or Australia to buy your HASBRO TFs.

Now, please put the lid back on tha can of worm.

That has been established? And we are talking about the Manufacturers retail price?

ok, Ive just checked TakaraTomys site and these guys do run about 2500 yen. That's about $19 us which is not too bad considering the paint aps. Its not the same price, but it's close enough to not warrant argument.

Lockdown IS at an inflated price however, but that could be because he is an older figure maybe and uses more plastic than the newer ones?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:11 am

Optimizzy wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.
If you really want "double the cost", go to Europe or Australia to buy your HASBRO TFs.

Now, please put the lid back on tha can of worm.

That has been established? And we are talking about the Manufacturers retail price?

If you're gonna whine about prices (yet again), at least do that in a proper place like this thread:

Toy Economics: Price Differences in different markets and the factors behind them.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:14 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.
If you really want "double the cost", go to Europe or Australia to buy your HASBRO TFs.

Now, please put the lid back on tha can of worm.

That has been established? And we are talking about the Manufacturers retail price?

If you're gonna whine about prices (yet again), at least do that in a proper place like this thread:

Toy Economics: Price Differences in different markets and the factors behind them.

Please see edit

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:23 am

Optimizzy wrote:Please see edit

It's basically his height in Robot Mode that's to blame for the somewhat inflated price. They pulled the same trick with Movie Advanced Battle Blade Bumblebee, as he too was taller than the ordinary Deluxe.

On the price note, the Japanese prices for TakaraTomy products are roughly consistent with those in Europe for Hasbro products. Try and figure that one out.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:35 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Please see edit

It's basically his height in Robot Mode that's to blame for the somewhat inflated price. They pulled the same trick with Movie Advanced Battle Blade Bumblebee, as he too was taller than the ordinary Deluxe.

On the price note, the Japanese prices for TakaraTomy products are roughly consistent with those in Europe for Hasbro products. Try and figure that one out.

Yeah, that's what I'm guessing and...while I think its a little shady, I can see how they can justify it.

Yeah, the prices seem to be rather reasonable when you don't factor in import costs.

by **Rated X** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:50 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.

"Established" by who ?

Someone from Japan or someone from Australia?

Believe it or not, Rated X's feet have actually touched Japanese soil. I visited the Philippines twice which involved connecting at Tokyo Japan. While I never actually left the airport, I made sure to check out the gift shop which Takara transformers were on sale for $40-45 a pop. They were animated figures mostly. Yes I know airports mark up prices a bit to sting tourists, but compared to the $20 price tag of Hasbro deluxes in the gift shop at Miami international airport, there is a diffference of a lot more than a few bucks. So I call total BS on anyone from euorpe or Australia saying a takara figure costs $15-20 in japan. And all the hobby shops in the phillippines were the same prices too on takara, no vaseline.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:09 am

Rated X wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:geez that's a massive (and superior) difference.

*****Praying thats sarcasm******

Its comparison shots like this that make me think what I do about takara. Theres not a person alive that can look me in the eyes with a staight face and tell me a different shade of orange and a few lousy paint apps doubles the production costs. Maybe back when they were doing shiny paint. (united) But this....naw, hell no.

Dude, it's been established already that when bought locally, both Hasbro and Takara ammount to the SAME PRICE, give or take a few bucks.

"Established" by who ?

Someone from Japan or someone from Australia?

Believe it or not, Rated X's feet have actually touched Japanese soil. I visited the Philippines twice which involved connecting at Tokyo Japan. While I never actually left the airport, I made sure to check out the gift shop which Takara transformers were on sale for $40-45 a pop. They were animated figures mostly. Yes I know airports mark up prices a bit to sting tourists, but compared to the $20 price tag of Hasbro deluxes in the gift shop at Miami international airport, there is a diffference of a lot more than a few bucks. So I call total BS on anyone from euorpe or Australia saying a takara figure costs $15-20 in japan. And all the hobby shops in the phillippines were the same prices too on takara, no vaseline.

Just by going to the TakaraTomy website and checking the prices, I can tell you that your airport costs are NOT TakaraTomys asking price. They are marked up indeed. But by the store you were looking at, not TT.

Hey, I still don't think Takara Tomy is all its presented as being, but the prices are not unreasonable.

mostly.