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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:31 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For the record, I put this here because I was using the Japanese idea of the headmaster tech, which goes more with the legends, I'm sorry if this annoys someone.
I only have two nitpicks, but it's overall awesome! :APPLAUSE:

Only 2?
Just minor things.

1. Who was driving Chromedome's Transtector when it rammed into Sixshot while little Chromedome himself was on the ground?

2. Depending on how long after Jack's death this is set, Sixshot's still being evil is questionable, considering how he turned from his evil ways by the end of the series.


1.) It's a self-driving model.
2.) It's not The Headmasters anime Sixshot. ;)

And should the lion be considered part of Voltron, or Golion?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:57 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For the record, I put this here because I was using the Japanese idea of the headmaster tech, which goes more with the legends, I'm sorry if this annoys someone.
I only have two nitpicks, but it's overall awesome! :APPLAUSE:

Only 2?
Just minor things.

1. Who was driving Chromedome's Transtector when it rammed into Sixshot while little Chromedome himself was on the ground?

2. Depending on how long after Jack's death this is set, Sixshot's still being evil is questionable, considering how he turned from his evil ways by the end of the series.


1.) It's a self-driving model.
2.) It's not The Headmasters anime Sixshot. ;)

And should the lion be considered part of Voltron, or Golion?

eesh, now we're starting to push it.

The skit could take place in a universe where Sixshot stayed evil and Jack somehow survived or was revived. The car mode could be said to be psychically linked to the actual headmaster, thus he could subconsciously drive the car.

As for the Lion, I'd go Voltron, as he is Legendary Defender. One could go so far as to claim Axiom Nexus, as I like that whole concept, but that's cheap, so I rely on someone with more knowledge to make a compelling case ;)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:09 am
by fenrir72
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For the record, I put this here because I was using the Japanese idea of the headmaster tech, which goes more with the legends, I'm sorry if this annoys someone.
I only have two nitpicks, but it's overall awesome! :APPLAUSE:

Only 2?
Just minor things.

1. Who was driving Chromedome's Transtector when it rammed into Sixshot while little Chromedome himself was on the ground?

2. Depending on how long after Jack's death this is set, Sixshot's still being evil is questionable, considering how he turned from his evil ways by the end of the series.


1.) It's a self-driving model.
2.) It's not The Headmasters anime Sixshot. ;)

And should the lion be considered part of Voltron, or Golion?

eesh, now we're starting to push it.

The skit could take place in a universe where Sixshot stayed evil and Jack somehow survived or was revived. The car mode could be said to be psychically linked to the actual headmaster, thus he could subconsciously drive the car.

As for the Lion, I'd go Voltron, as he is Legendary Defender. One could go so far as to claim Axiom Nexus, as I like that whole concept, but that's cheap, so I rely on someone with more knowledge to make a compelling case ;)


You are correct on the psychic link between the transtector and the Headmaster. Already dealt in the Fortress comic about how they, the cream of the crop, cyberdroids developed physical and mental skills to be able to synchronize/merge with their transtector.

Btw, anyone know of a translated version of Astrotrain's manga?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:43 am
by Cyberpath
fenrir72 wrote:
Btw, anyone know of a translated version of Astrotrain's manga?


Just a recap from TFwiki --

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legends_Comic:_B ... on_Vol._40

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:49 am
by fenrir72
Cyberpath wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Btw, anyone know of a translated version of Astrotrain's manga?


Just a recap from TFwiki --

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Legends_Comic:_B ... on_Vol._40


That's a synopsis. I mean like the one which used your scans that were "translated" with speech bubbles.

Also, what's the deal with Cab in the meido outfit? Are they like turning him into female or something? Minerva as a kawaii police officer with mini skirts are plausible (just ask the Russians) :-D but Cab? :SICK: ( I almost found him attractive) :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:08 am
by Cyberpath
Well, here's the original Japanese version for anyone who missed it: http://imgur.com/a/BfEJJ
Scanned by PoweredConvoy.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:56 am
by fenrir72
Cyberpath wrote:Well, here's the original Japanese version for anyone who missed it: http://imgur.com/a/BfEJJ
Scanned by PoweredConvoy.


Thanks but I have those that came with the instruction manuals. Hopefully someone answers the call.

Back to Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime and Broadside. Though in Astrotrain's case, it blends well with his anime appearance but with Broadside,Lio, Sentinel and the 3x Optimus. What's the deal with those collapsible ear guards for?

They hamper the head's range of rotation.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:07 pm
by Relic0037
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Depending on how long after Jack's death this is set, Sixshot's still being evil is questionable, considering how he turned from his evil ways by the end of the series.


I thought Sixshot's face turn seemed kinda forced. Zarak just decided to be a jerk to him all of a sudden for no reason, so he suddenly became a good guy... main takeaway from Headmasters is don't become friends with Chromedome because Sixshot might kill you!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:50 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
fenrir72 wrote:Also, what's the deal with Cab in the meido outfit? Are they like turning him into female or something? Minerva as a kawaii police officer with mini skirts are plausible (just ask the Russians) :-D but Cab? :SICK: ( I almost found him attractive) :BANG_HEAD:


Cancer with the aid of Shockwave is aiming to become a song idol, Wilder became a model, and Cab is working at a maid cafe (yes, they are real). Like coffee ladies, it seems crossdressing in that profession is pretty normal.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:56 pm
by Kurona
That's... pretty damn awesome! I don't know if this sort of thing was hinted at at all in Masterforce, but I'm very happily surprised to see representation of guys in feminine clothing. Warms my heart :x

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:03 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Kurona wrote:That's... pretty damn awesome! I don't know if this sort of thing was hinted at at all in Masterforce, but I'm very happily surprised to see representation of guys in feminine clothing. Warms my heart :x


Nah, it's all new for Legends. Zone has something that may turn heads in a similar way, with the relationship between Cain and Akira.

:shock:

O Primus, what have I done...

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:06 pm
by Kurona
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:That's... pretty damn awesome! I don't know if this sort of thing was hinted at at all in Masterforce, but I'm very happily surprised to see representation of guys in feminine clothing. Warms my heart :x


Nah, it's all new for Legends. Zone has something that may turn heads in a similar way, with the relationship between Cain and Akira.

:shock:

O Primus, what have I done...

That was pretty great too. Predates Chromewind by a couple decades :lol:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:11 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
*ahem* Anyway...

fenrir72 wrote:Back to Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime and Broadside. Though in Astrotrain's case, it blends well with his anime appearance but with Broadside,Lio, Sentinel and the 3x Optimus. What's the deal with those collapsible ear guards for?

They hamper the head's range of rotation.


It's to "bulk up" the head in order to make it look more proportionate. The best part is that the whole assembly can rotate a little to the left and right. In the manga, Astrotrain's are in fact restraining devices, locking the head to the Transtector.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:06 pm
by fenrir72
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Also, what's the deal with Cab in the meido outfit? Are they like turning him into female or something? Minerva as a kawaii police officer with mini skirts are plausible (just ask the Russians) :-D but Cab? :SICK: ( I almost found him attractive) :BANG_HEAD:


Cancer with the aid of Shockwave is aiming to become a song idol, Wilder became a model, and Cab is working at a maid cafe (yes, they are real). Like coffee ladies, it seems crossdressing in that profession is pretty normal.


OMG! Now I recall! In the Discovery Channel and/or Travel Asia with those guys.....wearing...............nevermind 8-}

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:11 pm
by fenrir72
Relic0037 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Depending on how long after Jack's death this is set, Sixshot's still being evil is questionable, considering how he turned from his evil ways by the end of the series.


I thought Sixshot's face turn seemed kinda forced. Zarak just decided to be a jerk to him all of a sudden for no reason, so he suddenly became a good guy... main takeaway from Headmasters is don't become friends with Chromedome because Sixshot might kill you!


In Headmasters, even the transition of leadership from Rodimus to Fortress was too forced. Even Convoy's death "again" was forced. To sell toys? 8-}

In Masterforce on the other hand, ended to quickly. :(

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:04 am
by Stuartmaximus
I know it's prob been said before, but Takara Tomy could always repaint & slightly retool Sky Shadow as Dai Atlas
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:24 am
by Emerje
Yeah, people have been saying that since their base modes are so similar. I doubt Hasbro cares, though.

Emerje

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:56 am
by Stuartmaximus
Emerje wrote:Yeah, people have been saying that since their base modes are so similar. I doubt Hasbro cares, though.

Emerje


no but TT might ;)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:10 am
by Kurona
Hopefully they do... it's just far too good a similarity to not pursue.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:06 am
by Cobotron
That would be fun and definitely seems more like Takara's bag than Hasbro's.
Always liked that color scheme.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:26 am
by william-james88
Stuartmaximus wrote:I know it's prob been said before, but Takara Tomy could always repaint & slightly retool Sky Shadow as Dai Atlas
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That digibash is missing a lot of white though (the entire jet part) and I really hope there is more retooling than that. It would be awesome if the wings flipped so that it could look more like Dai Atlas.

And I do feel like Takara cold do this, it wouuld be fun.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:46 am
by Kurona
... y'know, I'm starting to wonder if at any point in the design phase TR Sky Shadow was originally supposed to be Dai Atlas.

All the key points are there; the helmet, the shape of the jet, the chunk and heft... even the base mode and the silly jet-on-tank modes kind of match up to Dai Atlas' original toy in some way. Passes the squint test, at least.
Clearly if this was the case it was somewhat early in the design process given other specific details pertaining to Black Shadow like the chest, but I can't help but look between TR Sky Shadow and G1 Dai Atlas and not see a lot of similarities.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:32 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
If Takara did that I may have to bite. Yeah, I'd have 3 of the same leader molds, but they are of cool and rarely toyed characters, so maybe I would

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:34 pm
by Cobotron
It's important to remember that Takara doesn't make a habit of releasing two of the same mold in any given line. Even retools.
You guys think they would be more likely to release Overlord before anything else. Is he more important than Dai Atlas?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:39 pm
by william-james88
Cobotron wrote:It's important to remember that Takara doesn't make a habit of releasing two of the same mold in any given line. Even retools.
You guys think they would be more likely to release Overlord before anything else. Is he more important than Dai Atlas?

Not really. Dai Atlas is one of the main guys in the Zone G1 cartoon, he's the one who created the planet that's the title of the show.

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And since Takara gave us both Blaster and Soundwave (two leaders using the same base mold as part of the same line) there really arent any rules and patterns we can use to predict anything. Right now all is fair game. They could use the skyshadow mold for Dai Atlas and still release Overlord.