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Posted: **Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:00 pm**

Extra apps on the guns, red stripes on his chest and autobot sigil with white highlights. Nice!

Posted: **Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:56 pm**

Bravo Takara!!!

So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.

I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!

Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.

Posted: **Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:26 pm**

Looks way better than the Hasbro chrome version. But I still cant seem to pull the trigger on this mold. I hate that fake cockpit and stupid out of scale Macross jet mode. Im waiting on that Mech Form Sky Guardian.

Posted: **Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:40 pm**

Still some great upcoming figures for this year. Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases? Maybe of course it's because either Hasbro is lazy at times, or they just have some bizarre choices. Still, the US versions of Jetfire and Sky-Byte look decent With a few exceptions, I'm really liking the Generations line this year.

Posted: **Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:19 pm**

WildclawPrime wrote:Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases?

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It really depends on the particular line & figure.

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:45 am**

From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:38 am**

fenrir72 wrote:From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:22 pm**

Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:42 pm**

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

It's basic economics really. It's actually on par with current Japanese prices for Leader Class, and in fact between US and EU prices (EU being 70 Euros)

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:31 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310

The thread you are linking IS NOT from Amiami. So was THAT a means to correct something that does not need to be corrected? :???:

For THOSE too busy to actually read the link

Cost: Y 7560 @ 30% off so it costs Y 5280 but ALL SOLD OUT.

So, do I get a "No" Prize?

Btw here's another link, this time at Hobbysearch:LG07 coming late December 2014

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1059/0/1

Cost: Y 7000 but HS is charging Y 5950.........not yet SOLD OUT.

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:46 pm**

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:52 pm**

fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

Posted: **Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:50 pm**

megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.

Posted: **Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:02 am**

Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe

Posted: **Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:34 am**

fenrir72 wrote:Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe

Their Gelshark is shinier than Sky-Byte, and their Jetfire has more paint apps than Hasbro's. So, for Jetfire, it's just a non-shiny bling.

Posted: **Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:53 am**

Bling=chrome. So based on the pic......no chrome/bling.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:52 pm**

Va'al wrote:

I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:57 pm**

william-james88 wrote:I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:01 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:42 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:31 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:33 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?

Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?

After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:37 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?

After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".

Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names #-o

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:42 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?

After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".

Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names

Not to mention that the LCC toys were all TF Expo exclusives.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:43 pm**

I'm debating what will be the least "problematic" Optimus Primal to go in my Classics Beast Wars collection. The upcoming reissue of the original Ultra figure, which is bigger than voyager Rhinox, or this reissue of the Robotmasters figure, which is quite a bit smaller than Voyager Rhinox. I'm leaning towards a large figure, which would at least scale Primal properly with Cheetor, but then he'd be too big for Dinobot. Ugh...such a headache.

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