The Energon Pub

[Professor Smooth]

I'd almost say that's a given, if TakaraTomy can justify a set with two Leader Class toys. Anybody remember what that RotF Optimus Prime & Jetfire set went for?

I believe it was 15,000 yen. It sold out almost immediately. I was on vacation when it was released and they were completely gone by the time I returned a week later.

TakaraTomy has had absolutely zero issues with releasing high-dollar figures over the past few years. A Fire Guts giftset wouldn't surprise me. But I still think we'll see an homage to the Masterforce giftset w/ chrome and a few other new paint apps in the near future. Maybe around Christmas.

By the by, I should mention that the side-by-side picture I posted has MF God Ginrai in an alternate transformation. The official one attaches the wings to the backpack and the fists an inch or so up the arms (making both VERY stubby).

[Sabrblade]

Yet another alternate configuration to get the wings lower, and which also moves the arm stumps out of the way as well:

https://twitter.com/BEE6210/status/868325290904137728/



Side and back pics:





From this video review:

[Kurona]

Aside from certain misgivings about the toy's visual identity - the wing placement, Ginrai's feet which still look really awkward when combined, the tiny fists in combined mode - there's been quite a few reports about God Ginrai's stability, including this video. He does not look like an appealing toy to me... not to blaspheme, but I actually think I want PMOP more.

[Sabrblade]

Aside from certain misgivings about the toy's visual identity - the wing placement,

See the post above yours.

[Kurona]

Aside from certain misgivings about the toy's visual identity - the wing placement,

See the post above yours.

That does help a lot, can't believe that timing

Still, it's not just the wings - the whole thing just looks a bit off to me. Not the design itself - God Ginrai has always looked pretty damn awesome. But this toy just seems all over the place and not very aesthetically pleasing. Godbomber on his own seems a lot more fun.

[Evil Eye]

It's weird, because GG has the weird feet, stability issues and teeny tiny hands in combined mode, Meanwhile, PMOP is objectively worse in every regard with less articulation (no wrist swivels and no ankle rockers), horrible plastic colour choices and a lot of nasty hollow bits (those forearms...bleuch!). But just because Takara's is better doesn't mean it's good enough.

So as far as official CHUG scale Ginrais/PMOPs go, we're kinda out of luck. I know MakeToys is doing a PMOP/GG if you're OK with the increased price and it being a 3P figure (no need to worry about QC, as MakeToys knocks HasTak into a cocked hat).

[Tranzilla]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

[Desslok2201]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

[grimdragon2001]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

odds are if they give us a Nucleon Quest Ginrai, they will package it as either Scourge or Nemesis Prime, but keeping the Nucleon Deco

[Desslok2201]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

odds are if they give us a Nucleon Quest Ginrai, they will package it as either Scourge or Nemesis Prime, but keeping the Nucleon Deco

Yeah, but the nucleon deco has an autobot logo. I hate having to cover tampos with stickers

[grimdragon2001]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

odds are if they give us a Nucleon Quest Ginrai, they will package it as either Scourge or Nemesis Prime, but keeping the Nucleon Deco

Yeah, but the nucleon deco has an autobot logo. I hate having to cover tampos with stickers

at the rate things are going, it may just be a matter of swapping stickers

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

odds are if they give us a Nucleon Quest Ginrai, they will package it as either Scourge or Nemesis Prime, but keeping the Nucleon Deco

Yeah, but the nucleon deco has an autobot logo. I hate having to cover tampos with stickers

Let's be cheeky and assume that any Nucleon Quest redeco will be based on the original TR Powermaster Optimus Prime, as that black redeco was for him, not Ginrai

[Desslok2201]

Here's hoping we get a Nucleon Quest and/or Fire Guts version of God Ginrai.

I'd love to see a nucleon quest ginrai. I'm getting really tired of all the black decos being nemesis prime

odds are if they give us a Nucleon Quest Ginrai, they will package it as either Scourge or Nemesis Prime, but keeping the Nucleon Deco

Yeah, but the nucleon deco has an autobot logo. I hate having to cover tampos with stickers

Let's be cheeky and assume that any Nucleon Quest redeco will be based on the original TR Powermaster Optimus Prime, as that black redeco was for him, not Ginrai

It's a holiday, so I will accept the cheekiness

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

So I guess the comparisons to ROTF Optimus and Jetfire extend beyond just giftset price XD. There's also fiddliness in the combination.

I would say that the odds of a Nucleon Quest Super Convoy redeco getting labeled as such are actually fairly decent. Takara is still perfectly happy to present black recolors of Optimus Prime as Optimus and not an evil imitator.

Even with the issues I think it manages to look cool, so I'm hoping we get an Apex Bomber release here in the US. We're getting the Legends version of the TR PMOP tooling as "Magnus Prime" after all.

[chuckdawg1999]

I don't think they'll do a Fire Guts version, didn't it take a loooong time to clear from shelves and online retailers? I never understood how Japan explained Nucleon Quest Optimus Prime since Optimus/Convoy was never a God Master.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I don't think they'll do a Fire Guts version, didn't it take a loooong time to clear from shelves and online retailers? I never understood how Japan explained Nucleon Quest Optimus Prime since Optimus/Convoy was never a God Master.

Simple: they went with the US fiction as a starting point, and labeled the engine as our Hi-Q. They still named him "Super Convoy" however. As for it "not selling", its companion, the God Ginrai reissue, was ridiculously overproduced, so I'm assuming the Fire Guts one suffered the same fate to a lesser extent.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

The Nucleon Quest toy's bio actually brings the US concept of a Powermaster into Japanese continuity as an explanation, saying that to find more energy with which to revitalize the resurrected Cybertron he merged with Hi-Q to become a Powermaster and ventured into a black hole (protected by a special armor coating, to explain his black deco) to get super-energy nucleon (obviously better than the regular old nucleon in the Marvel comics).

[chuckdawg1999]

The Nucleon Quest toy's bio actually brings the US concept of a Powermaster into Japanese continuity as an explanation, saying that to find more energy with which to revitalize the resurrected Cybertron he merged with Hi-Q to become a Powermaster and ventured into a black hole (protected by a special armor coating, to explain his black deco) to get super-energy nucleon (obviously better than the regular old nucleon in the Marvel comics).

And sometimes it is that simple.

[Kurona]

As perhaps some companion pieces to the recently revealed MP-39 Sunstreaker and Legends Triggerhappy, Takara seems to have some upcoming products - confirmed by a receipt from Toy Scope and brought to us courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath! The Takara Legends line brings us confirmation of Misfire before his American counterpart even gets released; along with Sixshot, Broadside and Doublecross (otherwise known as Twinferno). Of course, we can expect all of these to be redecos and minor retools of the Hasbro products, with Misfire coming with a potentially-new-mold Targetmaster just like Triggerhappy, Kup and Hot Rod before him. And finally, we have MP-12+ Lambor (otherwise known as Sideswipe), giving confirmation that the Animation-Accurate MP+ line is indeed continuing after just Red Alert. Take a look at the receipt below and tell us what you think in the Takara Legends thread below! Or, if you're here for Sideswipe, feel free to peruse and join the MP+ thread instead!

Very important edit: Toy Scope's home page clarified that they made a mistake and that Misfire and Doublecross, surprisingly, share a designation. So below are the two corrections... one of which, once again, might surprise you.

LG51 Targetmaster Doublecross
LG52 Targetmaster Misfire

[RodimusConvoy13]

As perhaps some companion pieces to the recently revealed MP-39 Sunstreaker and Legends Triggerhappy, Takara seems to have some upcoming products - confirmed by a receipt from Toy Scope and brought to us courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath! The Takara Legends line brings us confirmation of Misfire before his American counterpart even gets released; along with Sixshot, Broadside and Doublecross (otherwise known as Twinferno). Of course, we can expect all of these to be redecos and minor retools of the Hasbro products, with Misfire coming with a potentially-new-mold Targetmaster just like Triggerhappy, Kup and Hot Rod before him. And finally, we have MP-12+ Lambor (otherwise known as Sideswipe), giving confirmation that the Animation-Accurate MP+ line is indeed continuing after just Red Alert. Take a look at the receipt below and tell us what you think in the Takara Legends thread below! Or, if you're here for Sideswipe, feel free to peruse and join the MP+ thread instead!

It also says Targetmaster Doublecross. It was another post on their page.

[Kurona]

It also says Targetmaster Doublecross. It was another post on their page.

Thank you very much, article edited!

[galvatron00]

SIXSHOT!!!!!!

[Relic0037]

Good to know that Takara is going to do these. Hopefully, some pictures will come out soon to see if there is a major difference between these and their Hasbro counterparts to warrant the higher cost (especially in the case of Sixshot and Broadside).

[Randomhero]

Good to know that Takara is going to do these. Hopefully, some pictures will come out soon to see if there is a major difference between these and their Hasbro counterparts to warrant the higher cost (especially in the case of Sixshot and Broadside).

Sixshot I doubt. Decales instead of stickers and will paint up his headmaster to actually be Jack which will make a helluva comic for him.

I can see them tweaking with broadside to do something with his jet but then again they've never modified any triple changers previously. They might just give him a closer deco

[LE0KING]

Up for preorder at bbts.