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[Cobotron]

In Japanese, "Garry" was used to describe any type of larger carrier vehicle and more often than not, bigger mecha have words associated with royalty or other persons in power, like "Caesar", "Kaiser", "-Jin" (meaning "god"), or "-Oh" (meaning "King").

Jelz, does "Dia" mean something in Japanese also? I always thought it meant something like "god".

"Dai"? It sure does, it usually means "Big", but more abstractly it means "Great" or "Grand". It's often used in combination with "-Oh".

Oh, I see you spelled it "Dai". I meant "Dia" as in Diaclone, Dia Atlas, or Dia Gunder. Am I spelling those wrong? Or do does "Dia" mean nothing, but just sound cool?

You're spelling "Dai Atlas" and "Daigunder" wrong, but "Diaclone" is correct. According to FunPub, Diaclone comes from "diamond" and "cyclone" (hence the "Cymond" universe for anything pre-TF related), but I think they were grasping at straw there

Well I'm known for a lot of good things, but spellking isen nott juan ov themp.
Thanks for the answers J.

I'm excited to see a close up of this guys head sculpt.

[fenrir72]

Just hope this one has the head lock mechanism that Roadrage lost.

[shajaki]

Also, the MP numbering system continues to be confusing. Roadrage gets her own number, but Loudy doesn't?

[datguy86]

And add another new character to the G1 Universe. btw Does anybody find it odd they're now using Masterpiece for that instead of G1 reissues?

Not really - Takara has to pay for those officially licensed vehicles somehow. Looking at other officially licensed lines; like the live-action movie toys, each release is (excluding exclusives) wide and readily available. MPs likely do not have a wide release, considering MP releases have had re-releases to meet demand. Loud Pedal may be a show-exclusive, but that show's cash helps pay for the use of the Corvette design. This is likely why we haven't seen a Sunstreaker release. Takara would probably have to pay separate to use even a slightly different version of the Lambo design.

This is also why I thought it odd we got Tigertracks so soon. Not just the ability to sell a different character, but something which could fill in as a potential Sunstreaker. See also the red 'Bee release. Definitely not Cliffjumper, but CJ does have a history of being a red Bumblebee.

I'd have to check, but didn't Binaltech/Alternators also feature a lot of odd choices for releases? Like Shockwave, Ravage and the like. It's all speculation, but I think trying to pay for those licensed modes is the largest factor here.

[Emerje]

According to FunPub, Diaclone comes from "diamond" and "cyclone" (hence the "Cymond" universe for anything pre-TF related), but I think they were grasping at straw there

They probably were. "Daiya" (ダイア) means diamond, but the clone part is probably just a reference to them looking like real cars. Also, the first three syllables in Diaclone (ダイアクロン) and Dai Atlas (ダイアトラス) are the same in Japanese. Just the "dai" portion on its own doesn't mean anything, but dai (だい) is an entirely different word that can be used to describe something's power level (or the level of anything really) so in all likelihood the use of the Japanese word diamond to spell Dai Atlus rather than だい is probably a Japanese word play.

BTW, jin doesn't mean god, it means something closer to people or being (in Japanese the DBZ Saiyans are spelled out Saiya-jin). God is kami. Incidentally, God Ginrai uses a westernized "goddo" (ゴッ) in his name because it's meant to be a play on Gojira (a.k.a. Godzilla) if you remove the correct syllables (Go* Gi*ra*).

Also, the MP numbering system continues to be confusing. Roadrage gets her own number, but Loudy doesn't?

Because Road Rage wasn't an exclusive, Loud Pedal is.

Emerje

[Seibertron]

Don't forget about Seibertron.com's gallery of Lucky Draw Black Tracks which you can view by clicking on the image below:

[Sabrblade]

Clearly a Decepticon, look at the stand. The only thing that's confusing me is the inclusion of Raoul.

It's Raoul in his "Auto-Bop" episode color scheme.



Compare to how he looked in "Make Tracks":

In Japanese, "Garry" was used to describe any type of larger carrier vehicle and more often than not, bigger mecha have words associated with royalty or other persons in power, like "Caesar", "Kaiser", "-Jin" (meaning "god"), or "-Oh" (meaning "King").

Jelz, does "Dia" mean something in Japanese also? I always thought it meant something like "god".

"Dai"? It sure does, it usually means "Big", but more abstractly it means "Great" or "Grand". It's often used in combination with "-Oh".

Oh, I see you spelled it "Dai". I meant "Dia" as in Diaclone, Dia Atlas, or Dia Gunder. Am I spelling those wrong? Or do does "Dia" mean nothing, but just sound cool?

You're spelling "Dai Atlas" and "Daigunder" wrong, but "Diaclone" is correct. According to FunPub, Diaclone comes from "diamond" and "cyclone" (hence the "Cymond" universe for anything pre-TF related), but I think they were grasping at straw there

"According to Fun Pub"? Before they made their Cymond Cluster, I recall hearing the "strong as a diamond, fast as a cyclone" slogan for Diaclone on the Internet.

Also, the MP numbering system continues to be confusing. Roadrage gets her own number, but Loudy doesn't?

Mass retail new character MPs get their own numbers. This guy is a convention exclusive, so he gets a letter.

[sol magnus]

I'm just sick enough to get this guy.

[SW's SilverHammer]

I'm not really a fan of the deco on Loud Pedal. I understand it's a decepticon, but the purple windows and seafoam green details are too bright to reference the diaclone figure. Reminds me more of Black Tracks/Nemesis tracks in deco, rather than it's own character. I think changing the seafoam green to stone blue, and the purple windows to a grey would've made a world of difference.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Interesting. I love black redecoes. they look sweet

[shajaki]

Yesterday we were treated to a small magazine image of the new Transformers Masterpiece MP-25L Loud Pedal, and tonight we have official pics from Takara Tomy themselves! The Destron Sonic Sapper sports a new beautiful head sculpt, Diaclone/Lucky Draw deco, "Auto-Bop" Raoul, Diaclone Blue Blaster, sticker sheet, and clear purple display stand! See the Tokyo Toy Show exclusive below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

[Sabrblade]

Huh, so it's one word "Loudpedal", eh? And Takara confirms that the name comes from a piano's pedal.

Though, "Sonic Sapper" is a weird translation for 超音工兵 ((Chō-on kōhei, "Ultrasonic Engineer" or "Supersonic Engineer")

Also, there is actually a difference between the Finland-exclusive Diaclone Black Corvette Stingray and the Lucky Draw Black Tracks: The faces are colored differently.

Left: Diaclone, right: Lucky Draw

[shajaki]

@Sabre
I tip my hat sir. Got any explanation for the color choices on the mini Blaster?

[DecepticonFinishline]

So... Shattered Glass has made its way in to the Masterpiece line (SG Blaster). I stand corrected. I am relieved.

Looks cool. SUPER stoked it's a Decepticon. More non-seeker Decepticons, please.

Bummed, but also unsurprised, they chose that weapon instead of Tracks. No vehicle mode storage. :/

So... The rarity on this guy. I don't exactly understand the service it runs through. Is it similar to MP-Skywarp and MP-Thundercracker? Or is it more like MP-Tigertracks?

[Sabrblade]

@Sabre
I tip my hat sir. Got any explanation for the color choices on the mini Blaster?

Indeed! Micro Change MC-21 Radi-Casse Robo colors.

[Cobotron]

Indeed! Micro Change MC-21 Radi-Casse Robo colors.

WOW Sabr! Awesome.

Loudpedal looks great!
Those eyes and that faceplate! Super cool.

[shajaki]

@Sabre
I tip my hat sir. Got any explanation for the color choices on the mini Blaster?

Indeed! Micro Change MC-21 Radi-Casse Robo colors.

Nice! So if we get a fourth MP Tracks there's still another color for lil Blaster (besides SG)

[Sabrblade]

You guys know what's especially funny about this figure and the timing of its announcement? Just a few days ago, the Transformers Collectors Club released its latest (as of this tying) prose story, "The Toxic Transformer", which featured a new Decepticon character named Vivisector who is also a homage to the Diaclone Black Tracks toy, right down to the same mouthplated light blue face.



In response to this new MP figure's announcement, the author of that TCC story has admitted that he had absolutely no idea about this figure's existence when he created the character of Vivisector, so it is currently up to anyone if one wants to consider Loudpedal and Vivisector to be completely separate characters, or just different versions of the same character (a la the Marvel and Sunbow versions of Shockwave and Blaster) with "Loudpedal" being the Japanese name and "Vivisector" being the English name.

[Wolfman Jake]

I'm actually loving these Diaclone homages from the Masterpiece line, especially when it both retroactively creates new G1 characters AND adds to the notably smaller numbers of the Decepticon ranks for MP offerings. I'm betting we'll get some sort of "Decepticon" version of Blaster based on this Microman color scheme from the MP-25L set once they get around to actually making Blaster, though they may just stop at the obvious (and quite similar) Twincast repaint.

It also makes me wish he had gotten more of these years ago. A retool/repaint of RtS Turbo Tracks as "Loudmouth/Vivisector," Exhaust (heavily modified in deco so as to not irk Philip Morris...again) from the Generations/United Wheeljack mold, Clampdown and Deep Cover from the Universe 2008 Sideswipe mold, etc. I think the only hope for these now would be Takara, as Hasbro never had much interest in Diaclone homages. I loved getting "Burn Out" and "Lift Ticket" from BotCon 2015, but Fun Publications will be done with any and all exclusive figures by the end of this year.

Side note: I've been working on kit bashing Universe 2008 Sideswipe and Sunstreaker into Tigertrack and Diaclone Red Sunstreaker, which I'm thinking of naming Hotstreak (I don't know of any fictional use of a red Sunstreaker yet). I got distracted with this project about half way through, so it's a bit hard to put the pieces back where they are supposed to go now. Plus, a few screws heads have stripped. >.<

[fenrir72]

Weird decals again. 1st party decals kinda suck.

So this is the final product of those prototype images Maz mentioned a few months ago. TT really knows how to milk the mold.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Those are awesome colors! And the head sculpt is banging too!

[Big Grim]

Holy cow! That looks gorgeous! Love the head sculpt!

[-Kanrabat-]

I won't buy because I'm perfectly satisfied with Road Rage. Still, ya gotta admit that new version is very sweet looking. Even went the extra mile to give it a new head!

[Doubledealer93]

will have never ever

[Optimizzy]

huh. i like this. may try to get.