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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Flashwave » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:10 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:From what I'm able to read and translate, Masterpiece is involved in the planning process for the project. We can safely assume that the end product will be Masterpiece-like in techniques used, but I don't think TakaraTomy knows what it wants yet. In which case, it's better to start high, then dumb down until a more desirable price point can be reached.

So yeah probably will be like unite warriors Devesator then. We'll find out soon enough anyway...now how many people would be annoyed if Hasbro imported it for the 2022 titan bug removed elbows from the individual robots :P


I'd be surprised yet annoyed. Surprised that Hasbro actually takes an explicit interest in trains, let alone foreign models, annoyed they'd be out of my price range either way :lol:

Not too shocking. Warden is a confessed model railroader. The teal question is will these conform to scale? And will they be HO, (1:87) Which is one of the most common scales, and about the same size as the Car Robots Trains, or N scale, the most common scale in Japan and the same size as G1 Rsiden? I cant see them being that small for Masterpiece though
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:24 am

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Flashwave wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:From what I'm able to read and translate, Masterpiece is involved in the planning process for the project. We can safely assume that the end product will be Masterpiece-like in techniques used, but I don't think TakaraTomy knows what it wants yet. In which case, it's better to start high, then dumb down until a more desirable price point can be reached.

So yeah probably will be like unite warriors Devesator then. We'll find out soon enough anyway...now how many people would be annoyed if Hasbro imported it for the 2022 titan bug removed elbows from the individual robots :P


I'd be surprised yet annoyed. Surprised that Hasbro actually takes an explicit interest in trains, let alone foreign models, annoyed they'd be out of my price range either way :lol:

Not too shocking. Warden is a confessed model railroader. The teal question is will these conform to scale? And will they be HO, (1:87) Which is one of the most common scales, and about the same size as the Car Robots Trains, or N scale, the most common scale in Japan and the same size as G1 Rsiden? I cant see them being that small for Masterpiece though
I'd imagine they'd be in robot mode scale since they size-changed all the time in their train mode, growing gigantic in size to let any average-sized Autobot ride inside them.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:05 am

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Tigerhawk7109 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:52 am

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Ugh. Any Raiden would be absolutely amazing, but an MP just makes me feel like Hasbro is taunting me. :HEADHURTS: I can just pray for a Selects Unite Warriors version and hope for the best!

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Burn » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:02 pm

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I think at this stage, with the Beast Wars and the latest Prime, and now this ... my time collecting the Masterpiece line is ending.

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:20 pm

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Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Ugh. Any Raiden would be absolutely amazing, but an MP just makes me feel like Hasbro is taunting me. :HEADHURTS:
But it's Takara doing this all by themselves without Hasbro.

In fact, nearly all MPs are done like that without Hasbro.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Tigerhawk7109 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:09 pm

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True.
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Takara Designers Interview From Transformers Generations 2020 Including Details About MP Raiden

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:54 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! It's not just HasLabs Unicron that's been feeling the love from the Transformers Generations 2020 book (recently published in Japan), as there's also an interview with three Takara Designers (Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara) and one of the things they discuss is the recently announced MP Raiden project!

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Caption next to small picture of Raiden apparently reads:
New information on the Raiden project is now available at the Special Exhibition Tenku no Railroad Story at the Mori Arts Center Gallery & Sky Gallery in Roppongi Hills Mori Tower.


The main details are that the toy will indeed be part of the Masterpiece line, making this the first Combiner to feature in all the years the Masterpiece line has been running. It has been said that the designers want the alt mode to satisfy even "train" people, meaning railway enthusiastics. This will probably be along the lines of realistic alt modes.

The translation below has been machine translated for the most with some tweaks done to aid grammar. Have a read and let us know what you think.

Beyond the 35th Anniversary, Toward 2020
Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara

-Let's open with thoughts on 2019 as we look back.

Ohno: After all, “Bumblebee” was big. The movie itself was very appealing to the G1 design, fans of the past were happy and I think the general public enjoyed that it looked like this (different from previous movies). I also enjoyed it personally.
Onohara: For marketing purposes, it was very good that the movie had all-ages content that could be enjoyed by children and family.
Yuki: It was a good movie that allowed you to use your characters carefully. Thanks to “Bumblebee”, I think that there will be a chance to create new types of video works in the future.
Ohno: The possibilities have expanded, and expectations for the next movie are increasing as soon as possible. Another thing that impressed me personally was that Unicron was established, and I can't tell you the exact date, but in 2021, it will reach my Japanese lol. I'm most impressed by how [much space will be needed] to place it at home, so be prepared now (laughs)

-Ohno, you can order a large number of items in Japan, thank you so much. How about the new anime “Cyberverse”?

Onohara: It was a new challenge, but I recently exhibited at the Tokyo Motor Show [and observed] there are quite a lot of children who come close to Cyberverse.
Ohno: It’s an advantage that you can watch it many times.
Onohara: This is an anime that asks Miwa Iwano for sound this time, so that various people can enjoy various ways to enjoy it. The number of viewers is also increasing because of the increased activity of major characters in Season 2.
Ohno: Toys are also good products. It ’s very interesting. First of all, it is a toy that is interesting to play with. Since it has a toy-like gimmick, I'd like you to play with it as a toy.
Yuki: In conjunction with Hasbro's “Generations Selects” in the United States, we started out in the form of trying to select characters that would not be featured in their lineup or regular “Generations”. With Legends, I was able to put it up to Dai Atlas, and I thought it would be Star Convoy the next time. I want to [make challenging] Japanese characters in the future. A large item called King Poseidon also appeared. Fortunately, the idea of the development was that I thought it was a little ... that the combiner would define it, and that the [sixth] last scrambled unit would not come out. I want [to satisfy] the fans that have collected so far, so I wanted to meet that honest hope and commercialized it.

-As a high target item, how was the Masterpiece brand in 2019?

Ohno: I am also a member, but now Masterpiece is a development system with project members. Yuuki Oshima, who draws design sketches and gives ideas to TF fans, is one of the important members.
Onohara: We were able to release Convoy Version 3 and Bumble Version 2 for the 35th anniversary. Fortunately, Masterpiece started at the 20th anniversary, so when the series reaches its 40th anniversary in 5 years, then Masterpiece will reach its 20th anniversary. Then there will have been Masterpiece for half of the Transformers' history. Because it has progressed with a good feeling for such a long time, it seems that it has a product specification that can withstand such upgrades.
Ohno: Even if you have the same character, it's all right, so I would like to put out an evolution by changing the specifications. Minibots are almost untouched, and there are many things that can be done.

-You collaborated vigorously.

Onohara: I think the most important purpose of collaboration is to create opportunities that people who once knew the Transformers brand and those who knew it were able to feel “what is interesting”.
Yuki: Thanks to movies and so on for the past few years, it seems that collaboration has become more eager.
Ohno: You may be able to say that you can now truly collaborate.
Onohara: There was also a second G-SHOCK and an amazing collaboration with BUMP OF CHICKEN was also realized rapidly.
Ohno: A woman at a live venue wears a t-shirt with Bumblebee. I saw it and it was tremendous.

- Finally, please tell us about 2020.

Onohara: First of all, it's not the end of the 35th anniversary, but in February we will carry out the “Transformers Examination”. Especially for the intermediate level, it will be a good test of your skill, so I would like you to challenge it. After that, Netflix's new animation will be distributed in Japan. Fortunately, there’s no movie, so it feels like it ’s normal (laughs). We are also preparing new works for “Generations Selects”, so please be patient.

- What was the recently announced “Raiden Project”?

Onohara: Isn't everyone thinking "No way !?" This time, we decided to officially produce Raiden for Masterpiece. I don't know the release date yet.
Ohno: I want to use vehicle mode that will satisfy even the “Train” people.
Yuki: We are very much looking forward to Mr. Ohno joining the project. Masterpieces were handled by young people so far, so there weren't many patterns to make together with your own toys.
Ohno: That's right, you're going to recreate the Raiden that you did with yourself. I have to do my best.
Yuki: You can do many things that you couldn't do at that time (laughs).
Onohara: In this way, veterans make wonderful items, so I would like to deliver them firmly to everyone.

PROFILE
Mitsuhito Ohno joined Takara in 1980. Involved in development from the beginning of "Transformers" through "Microman" and "Diaclone". In 2010, he was selected for the Hall of Fame. Currently participating in the Masterpiece Project as a fellow.

Hisashi Yuki joined Takara in 1992. Participated in the Transformers team since “Beast Wars II”. In addition to developing products for domestic and overseas, he is responsible for the localization of “Cyberverse” [as well as the] planning and development of the Japanese version of “Generations Select”.

Daisuke Onohara joined Takara Tomy in 2006. Transformers Marketing, collaboration and events planning. In Transformers Cyberverse, he is one of the producers.


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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Tigerhawk7109 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:17 pm

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This just makes me cry. :-( It'll probably cost around $400, and I just can't do that crap :BOOM:

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby sol magnus » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:34 pm

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Raiden is fine and all that, but this kind of stuck out -

Ohno: Even if you have the same character, it's all right, so I would like to put out an evolution by changing the specifications. Minibots are almost untouched, and there are many things that can be done.
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Re: Takara Designers Interview From Transformers Generations 2020 Including Details About MP Raiden

Postby Flashwave » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:35 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! It's not just HasLabs Unicron that's been feeling the love from the Transformers Generations 2020 book (recently published in Japan), as there's also an interview with three Takara Designers (Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara) and one of the things they discuss is the recently announced MP Raiden project!

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Caption next to small picture of Raiden apparently reads:
New information on the Raiden project is now available at the Special Exhibition Tenku no Railroad Story at the Mori Arts Center Gallery & Sky Gallery in Roppongi Hills Mori Tower.


The main details are that the toy will indeed be part of the Masterpiece line, making this the first Combiner to feature in all the years the Masterpiece line has been running. It has been said that the designers want the alt mode to satisfy even "train" people, meaning railway enthusiastics. This will probably be along the lines of realistic alt modes.

The translation below has been machine translated for the most with some tweaks done to aid grammar. Have a read and let us know what you think.

Beyond the 35th Anniversary, Toward 2020
Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara

-Let's open with thoughts on 2019 as we look back.

Ohno: After all, “Bumblebee” was big. The movie itself was very appealing to the G1 design, fans of the past were happy and I think the general public enjoyed that it looked like this (different from previous movies). I also enjoyed it personally.
Onohara: For marketing purposes, it was very good that the movie had all-ages content that could be enjoyed by children and family.
Yuki: It was a good movie that allowed you to use your characters carefully. Thanks to “Bumblebee”, I think that there will be a chance to create new types of video works in the future.
Ohno: The possibilities have expanded, and expectations for the next movie are increasing as soon as possible. Another thing that impressed me personally was that Unicron was established, and I can't tell you the exact date, but in 2021, it will reach my Japanese lol. I'm most impressed by how [much space will be needed] to place it at home, so be prepared now (laughs)

-Ohno, you can order a large number of items in Japan, thank you so much. How about the new anime “Cyberverse”?

Onohara: It was a new challenge, but I recently exhibited at the Tokyo Motor Show [and observed] there are quite a lot of children who come close to Cyberverse.
Ohno: It’s an advantage that you can watch it many times.
Onohara: This is an anime that asks Miwa Iwano for sound this time, so that various people can enjoy various ways to enjoy it. The number of viewers is also increasing because of the increased activity of major characters in Season 2.
Ohno: Toys are also good products. It ’s very interesting. First of all, it is a toy that is interesting to play with. Since it has a toy-like gimmick, I'd like you to play with it as a toy.
Yuki: In conjunction with Hasbro's “Generations Selects” in the United States, we started out in the form of trying to select characters that would not be featured in their lineup or regular “Generations”. With Legends, I was able to put it up to Dai Atlas, and I thought it would be Star Convoy the next time. I want to [make challenging] Japanese characters in the future. A large item called King Poseidon also appeared. Fortunately, the idea of the development was that I thought it was a little ... that the combiner would define it, and that the [sixth] last scrambled unit would not come out. I want [to satisfy] the fans that have collected so far, so I wanted to meet that honest hope and commercialized it.

-As a high target item, how was the Masterpiece brand in 2019?

Ohno: I am also a member, but now Masterpiece is a development system with project members. Yuuki Oshima, who draws design sketches and gives ideas to TF fans, is one of the important members.
Onohara: We were able to release Convoy Version 3 and Bumble Version 2 for the 35th anniversary. Fortunately, Masterpiece started at the 20th anniversary, so when the series reaches its 40th anniversary in 5 years, then Masterpiece will reach its 20th anniversary. Then there will have been Masterpiece for half of the Transformers' history. Because it has progressed with a good feeling for such a long time, it seems that it has a product specification that can withstand such upgrades.
Ohno: Even if you have the same character, it's all right, so I would like to put out an evolution by changing the specifications. Minibots are almost untouched, and there are many things that can be done.

-You collaborated vigorously.

Onohara: I think the most important purpose of collaboration is to create opportunities that people who once knew the Transformers brand and those who knew it were able to feel “what is interesting”.
Yuki: Thanks to movies and so on for the past few years, it seems that collaboration has become more eager.
Ohno: You may be able to say that you can now truly collaborate.
Onohara: There was also a second G-SHOCK and an amazing collaboration with BUMP OF CHICKEN was also realized rapidly.
Ohno: A woman at a live venue wears a t-shirt with Bumblebee. I saw it and it was tremendous.

- Finally, please tell us about 2020.

Onohara: First of all, it's not the end of the 35th anniversary, but in February we will carry out the “Transformers Examination”. Especially for the intermediate level, it will be a good test of your skill, so I would like you to challenge it. After that, Netflix's new animation will be distributed in Japan. Fortunately, there’s no movie, so it feels like it ’s normal (laughs). We are also preparing new works for “Generations Selects”, so please be patient.

- What was the recently announced “Raiden Project”?

Onohara: Isn't everyone thinking "No way !?" This time, we decided to officially produce Raiden for Masterpiece. I don't know the release date yet.
Ohno: I want to use vehicle mode that will satisfy even the “Train” people.
Yuki: We are very much looking forward to Mr. Ohno joining the project. Masterpieces were handled by young people so far, so there weren't many patterns to make together with your own toys.
Ohno: That's right, you're going to recreate the Raiden that you did with yourself. I have to do my best.
Yuki: You can do many things that you couldn't do at that time (laughs).
Onohara: In this way, veterans make wonderful items, so I would like to deliver them firmly to everyone.

PROFILE
Mitsuhito Ohno joined Takara in 1980. Involved in development from the beginning of "Transformers" through "Microman" and "Diaclone". In 2010, he was selected for the Hall of Fame. Currently participating in the Masterpiece Project as a fellow.

Hisashi Yuki joined Takara in 1992. Participated in the Transformers team since “Beast Wars II”. In addition to developing products for domestic and overseas, he is responsible for the localization of “Cyberverse” [as well as the] planning and development of the Japanese version of “Generations Select”.

Daisuke Onohara joined Takara Tomy in 2006. Transformers Marketing, collaboration and events planning. In Transformers Cyberverse, he is one of the producers.


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I think this sounds more and more prohibitively expensive with each news article. And I want one :shock: :-(
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby mesh » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:45 pm

i'm late to this conversation.......but seeing how much unicron is priced and the price hikes to the MP line....this combiner WILL NOT BE LESS THAN $500 US.
Moreover, Raiden never made here to North America so I have absolutely no clue who this guy is. Sure I saw the Youtube vids but that's not enough for me to fall in love with the character to even want one on the shelf.
At this point the MP line has lost me. I forced myself to buy the MP44 and what a mistake. Great figure but I'm still going to say that it should've been less expensive. Amazon Japan came in handy on that fig.

I don't know.......I'm not sold on this character. I'm sure it will look great and appeal to fans. The appeal might be enough for some fans to fork over the money regardless.

For me, the amount of money required to buy a MP fig is now just ridiculous. Case in point, MP Bumblebee 2.0. That thing should not be more than $70 US.

I've been collecting since the 80's and I can truly say that the collecting game has gotten pricey but this is now insane.

oh well, still fun to watch.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Burn » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:47 pm

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mesh wrote:I'm sure it will look great and appeal to fans.

And that's just it. This is aimed squarely at the Japanese fans.

Even though they know Masterpiece is a great seller outside of Japan, this project just seems 100% geared solely to Japanese fans and collectors.

And that's fine, there are those outside of Japan who will still grab the set, but if they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:14 pm

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Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.


Well, they'd do just that when they finally decide to release MP Victory Leo.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby ScottyP » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:10 pm

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Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.


Well, they'd do just that when they finally decide to release MP Victory Leo.
All of this appeals to me as someone that just likes cool robots
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:17 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.


Well, they'd do just that when they finally decide to release MP Victory Leo.
All of this appeals to me as someone that just likes cool robots


It could potentially appeal to me as a fan of railway models. As long as they use the original train models and are compatible with 0, H0 or N gauge.

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Black Hat » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:36 am

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Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:41 pm

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Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.


The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Black Hat » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:33 pm

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I see! Hmm, I think HO would be the most manageable, but O would be nice for scaling with 1:48 military models, and would probably go best with MPs.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:40 pm

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I usually kid but I think I'm really going to have to start working a street corner to afford this.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Emerje » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:43 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.


The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

This being Takara Tomy I'll be rather surprised if they don't use their own proprietary Plarail scale and tracks (same as Shinkalion). On the other hand that scale is probably too small for Masterpiece. Best I can tell their bot modes are roughly the same as Autobot cars Prowl or Sideswipe making them Voyager-ish. Shinkalion figures are around 9", but it takes two engines and a car to get that big, they wouldn't be able to do that with Trainbots.

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Then again, the Trainbots are pretty long, maybe they could unfold them into something big enough for MP scale and still have enough parts for combining. It's not like they weren't big square chunky bots on the cartoon already.

I'm really thinking around $700 for the set price. You have to figure each bot is going to be over $100 and there's six of them. After store discounts maybe it'll drop to $550, but probably not by much more than that. I'll get it because I really want to support MP combiners, but I hope Raiden is roughly the same size as Titan Devastator.

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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:17 pm

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really cool to see they are confirmed MP bots for Raiden. He will be super expensive, but I am ready to play that long haul expensive game. I want this. The idea of it is fantastic
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:27 pm

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Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.


The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

This being Takara Tomy I'll be rather surprised if they don't use their own proprietary Plarail scale and tracks (same as Shinkalion). On the other hand that scale is probably too small for Masterpiece. Best I can tell their bot modes are roughly the same as Autobot cars Prowl or Sideswipe making them Voyager-ish. Shinkalion figures are around 9", but it takes two engines and a car to get that big, they wouldn't be able to do that with Trainbots.

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Then again, the Trainbots are pretty long, maybe they could unfold them into something big enough for MP scale and still have enough parts for combining. It's not like they weren't big square chunky bots on the cartoon already.

I'm really thinking around $700 for the set price. You have to figure each bot is going to be over $100 and there's six of them. After store discounts maybe it'll drop to $550, but probably not by much more than that. I'll get it because I really want to support MP combiners, but I hope Raiden is roughly the same size as Titan Devastator.

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Wasn't there a lot of parts forming to the trains and to form Raiden? That might help keep the cost downish.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:48 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.


The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

This being Takara Tomy I'll be rather surprised if they don't use their own proprietary Plarail scale and tracks (same as Shinkalion). On the other hand that scale is probably too small for Masterpiece. Best I can tell their bot modes are roughly the same as Autobot cars Prowl or Sideswipe making them Voyager-ish. Shinkalion figures are around 9", but it takes two engines and a car to get that big, they wouldn't be able to do that with Trainbots.

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Then again, the Trainbots are pretty long, maybe they could unfold them into something big enough for MP scale and still have enough parts for combining. It's not like they weren't big square chunky bots on the cartoon already.

I'm really thinking around $700 for the set price. You have to figure each bot is going to be over $100 and there's six of them. After store discounts maybe it'll drop to $550, but probably not by much more than that. I'll get it because I really want to support MP combiners, but I hope Raiden is roughly the same size as Titan Devastator.

Emerje


Wasn't there a lot of parts forming to the trains and to form Raiden? That might help keep the cost downish.


Just one detached part per figure:

Torso
Shouki: the front end forms the chest and head mount in Combined Mode with a separate piece
Kaen: the front engine forms the head

Arms
Seizan & Suiken: their fronts open up and form fillers for the abdominal area

Legs
Getsuei & Yukikaze: their fronts form the feet.

Overall, with the parts detached, they're all symmetrical blocks, plus as mentioned before the arm and leg bots share transformation.
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Re: TakaraTomy's Mystery Raiden Project

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:09 pm

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I hope with all this excitement Raiden is generating with most that :TAKARATOMY: / :HASBRO: decide to release a new mold of Rail Racer/JRX in the wake of this train TF. :PRAY: :VEHI:
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