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Megatron Wolf wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:It kills me how so many bash TFs?! If you can do a better job get the funds up and make your own! People are are Nitpicking & Dissecting the movie from just a few clips they've seen giving negative comments?! WTH Are you millions invested in these movies?!

If you don't want to see the movie plain and simple don't go see it! It ain't rocket science! Everyday theirs someone B**ching & Complaining it ain't that deep!

so let me get this straight we should only express our opinions as long as they praise everything that is transformers? Those of us who dont like what we are seeing or dont like how a beloved franchise thats been around for 30 years is going should just shut our mouths? Last time i checked this is a discussion thread not a communist country and the point of a discussion thread is to get opinions of the users be them positive or negative. And those of us who bitch about these movies have every right to, just like how the people who praise these movies have every right to as well. You dont like it to bad cause thats how the internet works

It's all fine and good to express your opinion but what I'm saying is everyday someone says because of this or that I'm not seeing the movie. Okay we get it you don't like it fine, stop posting the same ole nonsense it's getting real old real fast!

for serious transformer movie like to see this happen

Megatron Wolf wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:It kills me how so many bash TFs?! If you can do a better job get the funds up and make your own! People are are Nitpicking & Dissecting the movie from just a few clips they've seen giving negative comments?! WTH Are you millions invested in these movies?!

If you don't want to see the movie plain and simple don't go see it! It ain't rocket science! Everyday theirs someone B**ching & Complaining it ain't that deep!

so let me get this straight we should only express our opinions as long as they praise everything that is transformers? Those of us who dont like what we are seeing or dont like how a beloved franchise thats been around for 30 years is going should just shut our mouths? Last time i checked this is a discussion thread not a communist country and the point of a discussion thread is to get opinions of the users be them positive or negative. And those of us who bitch about these movies have every right to, just like how the people who praise these movies have every right to as well. You dont like it to bad cause thats how the internet works

No but thats not what this thread is for.



if you want to say how much you hate it make your own thread and keep it out of ours.



I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:

Gemini220 wrote:It kills me how so many bash TFs?! If you can do a better job get the funds up and make your own! People are are Nitpicking & Dissecting the movie from just a few clips they've seen giving negative comments?! WTH Are you millions invested in these movies?!

If you don't want to see the movie plain and simple don't go see it! It ain't rocket science! Everyday theirs someone B**ching & Complaining it ain't that deep!

so let me get this straight we should only express our opinions as long as they praise everything that is transformers? Those of us who dont like what we are seeing or dont like how a beloved franchise thats been around for 30 years is going should just shut our mouths? Last time i checked this is a discussion thread not a communist country and the point of a discussion thread is to get opinions of the users be them positive or negative. And those of us who bitch about these movies have every right to, just like how the people who praise these movies have every right to as well. You dont like it to bad cause thats how the internet works

No but thats not what this thread is for.



if you want to say how much you hate it make your own thread and keep it out of ours.



I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

william-james88 wrote:

partholon wrote:
TBH after all the effort hasbro has gone to get the TFs origin to at least make some kind of sense im somewhat taken aback at em going this route in the film

Where could I see those spent efforts? Sorry if it sounds sarcastic, I am just really curious as to where a fan like me can see the current origin. Or is wiki still my best friend in that department?

hasbro headquaters AFAIK.



IIRC when the fall of cybertron lads were putting their pitch together for their game sequel the lads there said the big guys at hasbro were putting together their "bible" for all things TF.

theyre one of the resons were getting any dinobots at all as before teig and co pitched their origin for grimlock and the lads for the game the policy of the company was there was to be no more dinos as "they didnt fit" the direction the brand was going in.

thank fup Teig is such a big grim fan.

Im sure thers a vid of it on youtube somewhere. anyway last i heard the origin is meant to involve a somewhat convoluted version involving primus the thirteen that they hope to get into a comic someday.

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

I'm actually in agreement. While I'm not a fan of the silly humor, I do think we can get carried away and probably should take it to another thread or at least wait until the movie comes out.

I'm hoping it will be good. So far it looks good. Now, if Hound squints and lifts his leg to let out a robo-fart at some point in the movie...well...

Optimizzy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

I'm actually in agreement. While I'm not a fan of the silly humor, I do think we can get carried away and probably should take it to another thread or at least wait until the movie comes out.

I'm hoping it will be good. So far it looks good. Now, if Hound squints and lifts his leg to let out a robo-fart at some point in the movie...well...

There is a difference between going overboard/getting personal and having a discussion. A discussion includes all opinions. What you are suggesting is not a discussion.

I actually have stayed away from the movie threads mostly. I happened to watch this particular trailer and motivated me enough to come to the thread and post a thought. But unless my thought agrees with everyone else's, then I shouldn't post it here? Absurdity!

hinomars19 wrote:Hmmm...wasn't the era that Lio Convoy was active in the same area that Primal's crew came from in Beast Wars?

Nope. That was a longstanding misconception made by the fandom knowing very little real info about BWII and BWNeo and just going off on assumptions and guesses (and wishful thinking in some cases).

See here for more details on this - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers#Beast_Wars

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Bay humor is no different then anyone else's humor

No, Bay's brand of humor is toilet humor and outlandish over-the-top "trying too hard" humor, and he admitted it himself in the audio commentary of the first movie, in which he discusses the type of humor he likes and assumes other people like it as well. He didn't acknowledge that other people didn't like his kind of humor, only that he has a certain kind of humor that he likes even if it can be crude, weird, or gross.

Bay's type of humor isn't clean or family friendly. He's more "edgy" than that.



As for the whole "make a new thread to bash the movies instead of in here" deal, if one were to do that, then people would just be complaining that the person who made that topic did so just to criticize the movies despite being told to do just that. The only way to satisfy those who like the films is for no one to ever say anything negative about the movies and that's just never going to happen because not everyone liked the movies. So by telling the folks who don't like the movies to go away, that's being oppressive and disrespectful towards them just because they have a different opinion from those who do like these movies.

Stormrider wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

I'm actually in agreement. While I'm not a fan of the silly humor, I do think we can get carried away and probably should take it to another thread or at least wait until the movie comes out.

I'm hoping it will be good. So far it looks good. Now, if Hound squints and lifts his leg to let out a robo-fart at some point in the movie...well...

There is a difference between going overboard/getting personal and having a discussion. A discussion includes all opinions. What you are suggesting is not a discussion.

I actually have stayed away from the movie threads mostly. I happened to watch this particular trailer and motivated me enough to come to the thread and post a thought. But unless my thought agrees with everyone else's, then I shouldn't post it here? Absurdity!

No but people dont like seeing posts about hate or dislike of something they enjoyed.

i suck at explaining but you know what i mean......right?

Sabrblade wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Hmmm...wasn't the era that Lio Convoy was active in the same area that Primal's crew came from in Beast Wars?

Nope. That was a longstanding misconception made by the fandom knowing very little real info about BWII and BWNeo and just going off on assumptions and guesses (and wishful thinking in some cases).

See here for more details on this - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers#Beast_Wars

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Bay humor is no different then anyone else's humor

No, Bay's brand of humor is toilet humor and outlandish over-the-top "trying too hard" humor, and he admitted it himself in the audio commentary of the first movie, in which he discusses the type of humor he likes and assumes other people like it as well. He didn't acknowledge that other people didn't like his kind of humor, only that he has a certain kind of humor that he likes even if it can be crude, weird, or gross.

Bay's type of humor isn't clean or family friendly. He's more "edgy" than that.



As for the whole "make a new thread to bash the movies instead of in here" deal, if one were to do that, then people would just be complaining that the person who made that topic did so just to criticize the movies despite being told to do just that. The only way to satisfy those who like the films is for no one to ever say anything negative about the movies and that's just never going to happen because not everyone liked the movies. So by telling the folks who don't like the movies to go away, that's being oppressive and disrespectful towards them just because they have a different opinion from those who do like these movies.

Yes I know but I just dont want to hear it anymore it annoys me and I hate it so much you would not even understand it.


I'm not blind to the problems with the movies but does it really matter?

Stormrider wrote:
There is a difference between going overboard/getting personal and having a discussion. A discussion includes all opinions. What you are suggesting is not a discussion.

but, that's exactly what I mean? I'm saying to withhold negative comments that are only there to piss people off. If you don't like the movie, say so that is fine. But I think it's fair to say that it's annoying to go through thirty posts that say the same thing we've heard before.

I mean, if you feel you really need to post the thirty-first post about how Michael Bay is making a bad movie, then do so. I'm not going to stop you, or hate you for it. I just don't know if it's necessary for this thread to be bogged down with it.

RyuNoDeshi0000 wrote:Reminds me of the 80's

Awesome Episode! Memories

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

I'm actually in agreement. While I'm not a fan of the silly humor, I do think we can get carried away and probably should take it to another thread or at least wait until the movie comes out.

I'm hoping it will be good. So far it looks good. Now, if Hound squints and lifts his leg to let out a robo-fart at some point in the movie...well...

There is a difference between going overboard/getting personal and having a discussion. A discussion includes all opinions. What you are suggesting is not a discussion.

I actually have stayed away from the movie threads mostly. I happened to watch this particular trailer and motivated me enough to come to the thread and post a thought. But unless my thought agrees with everyone else's, then I shouldn't post it here? Absurdity!

No but people dont like seeing posts about hate or dislike of something they enjoyed.

i suck at explaining but you know what i mean......right?

I understand what you are trying to say and I don't know how to put this any more kindly when I say it is a childish way of thinking to expect that you won't go through a thread, a forum, the news, or the internet without coming across a thought or a person who says something that you don't like.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Yes I know but I just dont want to hear it anymore it annoys me and I hate it so much you would not even understand it.

I'm not blind to the problems with the movies but does it really matter?

I get it, you have read a lot of posts in this thread that people are discrediting the movie or Bay. If you are getting tired or upset from reading them, then just skip them. You are not forced to read every post. Or, take a break from the thread. I take a break from threads all the time when I read the same kind of posts over and over. It is really annoying however, when you tell people that they cannot post criticism that you deem as hateful towards the movie.


Moving on, I often wonder if there is something wrong mentally with Michael Bay because of his single style of humor that he puts in the movies. It's like he is obsessed with the toilet humor. Where's Fraud when you need him! There are not varying degrees of humor - it's almost always the same style (sophomoric). I wonder if this is how he views life? Or, if this how he lives his life?

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only one who does not want to see negative comments because they never help and start arguments.

What? Um, wrong. Since when did Seibertron threads become one directional and only allow certain type of comments?

I'm actually in agreement. While I'm not a fan of the silly humor, I do think we can get carried away and probably should take it to another thread or at least wait until the movie comes out.

I'm hoping it will be good. So far it looks good. Now, if Hound squints and lifts his leg to let out a robo-fart at some point in the movie...well...

There is a difference between going overboard/getting personal and having a discussion. A discussion includes all opinions. What you are suggesting is not a discussion.

I actually have stayed away from the movie threads mostly. I happened to watch this particular trailer and motivated me enough to come to the thread and post a thought. But unless my thought agrees with everyone else's, then I shouldn't post it here? Absurdity!

No but people dont like seeing posts about hate or dislike of something they enjoyed.

i suck at explaining but you know what i mean......right?

I understand what you are trying to say and I don't know how to put this any more kindly when I say it is a childish way of thinking to expect that you won't go through a thread, a forum, the news, or the internet without coming across a thought or a person who says something that you don't like.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Yes I know but I just dont want to hear it anymore it annoys me and I hate it so much you would not even understand it.

I'm not blind to the problems with the movies but does it really matter?

I get it, you have read a lot of posts in this thread that people are discrediting the movie or Bay. If you are getting tired or upset from reading them, then just skip them. You are not forced to read every post. Or, take a break from the thread. I take a break from threads all the time when I read the same kind of posts over and over. It is really annoying however, when you tell people that they cannot post criticism that you deem as hateful towards the movie.


Moving on, I often wonder if there is something wrong mentally with Michael Bay because of his single style of humor that he puts in the movies. It's like he is obsessed with the toilet humor. Where's Fraud when you need him! There are not varying degrees of humor - it's almost always the same style (sophomoric). I wonder if this is how he views life? Or, if this how he lives his life?

Yeah i know i just wish things were diffrent and perfect.



Thank you for the suggestion though its just i have no other things to do i have no other hobbies.

Two new spots yo


In the 2nd video you can see a F-22 briefly at 0:07.... does this mean Starscream comes back?



Well the leaked toy line says he has a toy in the Constructibots movie line.


and so does Shockwave...hmmmmmm.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Two new spots yo


In the 2nd video you can see a F-22 briefly at 0:07.... does this mean Starscream comes back?



Well the leaked toy line says he has a toy in the Constructibots movie line.


and so does Shockwave...hmmmmmm.

In that first one at 8:08, that's one of those guys standing behind Lockdown getting shot by some, what looks like some crazy ass toaster with eyes looking thing.

SlyTF1 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Two new spots yo


In the 2nd video you can see a F-22 briefly at 0:07.... does this mean Starscream comes back?



Well the leaked toy line says he has a toy in the Constructibots movie line.


and so does Shockwave...hmmmmmm.

In that first one at 8:08, that's one of those guys standing behind Lockdown getting shot by some, what looks like some crazy ass toaster with eyes looking thing.

What you mean this guy on the right?




Yeah Bay did say in an interview that there will be some things on Lockdowns ship that will make us go Wtf

I think we also said those things wont be explained in this movie but in the future movies (Tf5 is confirmed for 2016 if you dont know).

SlyTF1 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Two new spots yo


In the 2nd video you can see a F-22 briefly at 0:07.... does this mean Starscream comes back?



Well the leaked toy line says he has a toy in the Constructibots movie line.


and so does Shockwave...hmmmmmm.

In that first one at 8:08, that's one of those guys standing behind Lockdown getting shot by some, what looks like some crazy ass toaster with eyes looking thing.

From what I can make out it kinda looks like a Terminator with googly eyes.
Starscream probably will be either resurrected or turned into Cyclonus. Possibly both.

Or it's just ordinary, man made F-22.

As much as i hate the way Starscream died in DotM, i think enough is enough. The only way Starscream could return in the Movie is as Cyclonus, and this isn't very propable, since it's no hint of Cyclonus at all. Megatron's second return is too much for movieverse. Soundwave could rerutn as Stinger, and Starscream as Cyclonus, but no more stricte ressurection. If someone from other movies could return, it's Barricade, because he isn't death in canon (but role of BBB archenemy is already taken by Stinger, so I don't see the point).

TurboMMaster wrote:Or it's just ordinary, man made F-22.

As much as i hate the way Starscream died in DotM, i think enough is enough. The only way Starscream could return in the Movie is as Cyclonus, and this isn't very propable, since it's no hint of Cyclonus at all. Megatron's second return is too much for movieverse. Soundwave could rerutn as Stinger, and Starscream as Cyclonus, but no more stricte ressurection. If someone from other movies could return, it's Barricade, because he isn't death in canon (but role of BBB archenemy is already taken by Stinger, so I don't see the point).

But Barricade died in Dark of the moon and he also killed Que (Wheeljack) in the movie as well.



And why cant Starscream come back as Starscream.


There is more then one way to bring him back.

In movie news, we get two more spots for Transformers: Age of Extinction, still via CBMTrailers, still showing robots and humans with a little new footage in terms of group shots, dialogue snippets and explosions. Check them both out below!

any more spots and they might as well put the movie online.

nhphoto wrote:any more spots and they might as well put the movie online.

I know, it feels very silly.

Va'al wrote:

nhphoto wrote:any more spots and they might as well put the movie online.

I know, it feels very silly.

yeah, i don't want to see any more new clips from the movie.

hopefully these clips are indicative of the amount of robot screen time we'll and not just all of the robot screen time lol.

but still.. there's so much about this movie that we don't know.

the origin of the dinobots, who sent lockdown, what his henchmen are, what lockdown is looking for, why lockdown begins destroying the earth, what happens to galvatron, what happens to the dinobots, what all of the different creatures are on lockdowns ship, and if there are any surprise transformers.. but yeah, i agree that they're starting to show a little too much, as of right now, there are still plenty of questions that these trailers haven't answered.

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Dance brought back memories of this scene in animated movie

Last time post video on iPhone tablet is better

Dance brought back memories of those G1 episodes with Soundwave.