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dancing robots were stupid in G1 & they still are, it does nothing but throw off the pacing of the movie. Hound being a smartass i dont mind to much cause every group has one but if every word out of his mouth is some remark like those then that would suck. Still no intention of seeing this in the theater but i might check it out when its on hbo or netflix, that way if it sucks like the previous 3 i can just turn it off or fast forward & not have wasted money.

The tone of this thread is getting a little heavy, guys. Let's discuss the movie and our opinions without getting too personal in attacking the other posters, OK? It's OK to have differing opinions and not agree, it really doesn't need to get personal.

Sabrblade wrote:A lot of it was mostly done to reconcile Beast Machines' organic Cybertron with the Cybertron of the G1 cartoon since Takara wanted to have both of those cartoons in the same continuity (despite Cybertron somehow being no longer technorganic and back to purely technological by the time of beast wars II tens of thousands of years later).

Hmmm...wasn't the era that Lio Convoy was active in the same area that Primal's crew came from in Beast Wars? Meaning we could assume that Beast Machines (or rather Beast Wars Returns) happens after II and Neo? I mean Primal's crew did go through time to get back to Cybertron, maybe Megatron landed after the events of Beast Wars Neo. Or am I missing specified info on the time frame of these shows? I'm never sure if it's confirmed if II and neo are the same time that Primal's crew comes from. I don't even remember if I assumed that or if I read it somewhere years ago.

william-james88 wrote:And one last thing, I find it pretty cool that we are having such a fun transformers plot/origin conversation in a transformers movie forum. The haters cant say nothing good comes out of those films anymore

Don't worry, once we see the film and realise the trailer was mis-leading and Lockdown is actually talking to Galvatron (or even the Yeager family's lawnmower) it'll all fall apart.

As for the Dancing trailer-I like it. Grumblebums be darned

(I hope I don't get a warning for calling people grumblebums )

Dang. So much criticism over sentient robots dancing like human beings. Yeah, I think the dancing is silly. I didn't like it in Transformers Prime. But everyone needs some time to goof off and relax. Why wouldn't Autobots? It only makes them more human which in turn gives them more character.

Li Bingbing is so pretty.

dreadwing95 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

dreadwing95 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh, wow. Not really funny. Maybe the lines work better in the movie. The dancing? I figured there had to be some parts of the film that totally sucked. Hopefully it's a very short scene. At least John Goodman/Hound gets more than 3 lines.

You and others who complain


Why Bay is giving you what you want


No toilet humor


there is still going to be humor but now you guys want none?


You must all be more depressed then me and i'm one of the most depressed people you would ever meet and i still find the scenes funny and i'm going to see it.


You guys will never be satisfied i hope you guys grow up and start looking for less seriousness it will kill you and that's not a joke either.

i dont mind humor. i just dont like bay humor

what?


Are you god damn slagging kidding me?


Bay humor is no different then anyone else's humor



You shut up and never post to me another comment like that you got it?


I cant stand it anymore there should be a rule of no negative comments.

okay relax not trying to start arguments. just saying everyone has different tastes in jokes. im not tryng to be negative just voicing my opinion. lets all take a moment to breath

Alright sorry I've just got serious anger issues and depression.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

dreadwing95 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

dreadwing95 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh, wow. Not really funny. Maybe the lines work better in the movie. The dancing? I figured there had to be some parts of the film that totally sucked. Hopefully it's a very short scene. At least John Goodman/Hound gets more than 3 lines.

You and others who complain


Why Bay is giving you what you want


No toilet humor


there is still going to be humor but now you guys want none?


You must all be more depressed then me and i'm one of the most depressed people you would ever meet and i still find the scenes funny and i'm going to see it.


You guys will never be satisfied i hope you guys grow up and start looking for less seriousness it will kill you and that's not a joke either.

i dont mind humor. i just dont like bay humor

what?


Are you god damn slagging kidding me?


Bay humor is no different then anyone else's humor



You shut up and never post to me another comment like that you got it?


I cant stand it anymore there should be a rule of no negative comments.

okay relax not trying to start arguments. just saying everyone has different tastes in jokes. im not tryng to be negative just voicing my opinion. lets all take a moment to breath

Alright sorry I've just got serious anger issues and depression.

no harm done

One day before the world premiere of Transformers 4: Age of Extinction, Paramount Pictures Senior Vice President Edward Ryan promises Transformers 5 in 2016 at the TF4 Screening during CineEurope 2014 Barcelona.

According to The Hollywood reporterTransformers 5 is not the only movie that was promised for 2016. Other movies that Ryan promised is Paranormal Activity 5, a new take on Ben Hur directed by Timur Bekmambetov, the return of Eddie Murphy for Beverly Hills Cop, GI Joe 3, Hansel and Gretel 2 and Star Trek 3.
Ryan also predicts that transformers 4 will be the biggest movie of the season!

Paranormal Activity 5? Didn't they already do that?

william-james88 wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:
I didn't mind it actually. As a kid I preferred the Primus story from the comics, so Takara basically making the existence of Primus canon whilst keeping the Quintesson origin story was pretty cool for me. Plus, it shows somebody did enough research to pull a load of stuff together and make it work. Of course it's pretty tentative that Primus picks and chooses when to call himself Primus or Oracle or what have you for convenience. But it pulls together the sunbow cartoon, Beast Machines, Beast wars (including II and Neo) rather nicely.

Convoluted as it is, I like it

Wait wait wait... The Oracle of Beast Machines is Primus?!?! Beast machines and G1 are all in the same continuity so it makes sense but I never thought of it that way.

Also, there is an esthetic connection between the symbols found on the RID Optimus Beast Machines toy and the symbols on the Vector Prime toy who was a principle emmisary of Primus.

And one last thing, I find it pretty cool that we are having such a fun transformers plot/origin conversation in a transformers movie forum. The haters cant say nothing good comes out of those films anymore

in a roundabout way, yes, the BM Oracle is Primus. As far as the cartoon is concerned, the Oracle is Vector Sigma with an external user entry on it. The 3h convention comics go on to source the Oracle Shell as a product of the Quintessons, and at the end of the comic Primus thanks the Quintessons for helping to evolve his children. But how much stock should be put into the Convention comic is kinda vague.

so Hansel & Gretel 2 is happening? awesome...i loved that movie!

Yeesh, was I the only one that heartily chuckled at the dancing?

william-james88 wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:
I didn't mind it actually. As a kid I preferred the Primus story from the comics, so Takara basically making the existence of Primus canon whilst keeping the Quintesson origin story was pretty cool for me. Plus, it shows somebody did enough research to pull a load of stuff together and make it work. Of course it's pretty tentative that Primus picks and chooses when to call himself Primus or Oracle or what have you for convenience. But it pulls together the sunbow cartoon, Beast Machines, Beast wars (including II and Neo) rather nicely.

Convoluted as it is, I like it

Wait wait wait... The Oracle of Beast Machines is Primus?!?! Beast machines and G1 are all in the same continuity so it makes sense but I never thought of it that way.

Also, there is an esthetic connection between the symbols found on the RID Optimus Beast Machines toy and the symbols on the Vector Prime toy who was a principle emmisary of Primus.

And one last thing, I find it pretty cool that we are having such a fun transformers plot/origin conversation in a transformers movie forum. The haters cant say nothing good comes out of those films anymore

in a roundabout way, yes, the BM Oracle is Primus. As far as the cartoon is concerned, the Oracle is Vector Sigma with an external user entry on it. The 3h convention comics go on to source the Oracle Shell as a product of the Quintessons, and at the end of the comic Primus thanks the Quintessons for helping to evolve his children. But how much stock should be put into the Convention comic is kinda vague.

KirbyForce1 wrote:Paranormal Activity 5? Didn't they already do that?

According to IMDB it's schedule to come out Oct. 24 2014. Maybe they're pushing it back?

Mindmaster wrote:Yeesh, was I the only one that heartily chuckled at the dancing?

Well no i was too

I was just getting angry at the pople who are mad that there is comedy and believe that only a serious transformers movie would be good.



*Sarcasm on*

Even though giant transforming aliens from a toyline should be taken serious and should always act like war machines and never have fun because fun is stupid and not allowed!


*sarcasm off*

Flashwave wrote: yes, the BM Oracle is Primus. As far as the cartoon is concerned, the Oracle is Vector Sigma with an external user entry on it.

Do you mind elaborating, I am kind of lost. I only watched BW and BM as far as G1 continuity (as well as a handful of classic TF episodes and the 80s movie of course).
What is Vector Sigma in BM? And is it the same vector sigma in the original TF cartoon? And what do you mean by external user entry?

Hey fellas, it's great that we're getting discussion here, but please keep it on-topic. If you'd like to continue discussing whatever is being discussed that isn't on-topic, either discuss via PM or make another thread. Thanks!

It kills me how so many bash TFs?! If you can do a better job get the funds up and make your own! People are are Nitpicking & Dissecting the movie from just a few clips they've seen giving negative comments?! WTH Are you millions invested in these movies?!

If you don't want to see the movie plain and simple don't go see it! It ain't rocket science! Everyday theirs someone B**ching & Complaining it ain't that deep!

Great save Optimus Prime! Looks like Brazil and Germany is lucky Cybertron is not in the World Cup this year cause those bots would bring it home... away from Earth.

Check out ESPN's Latest Transformers 4 Age Of Extinction Commercial!

I cannot find the plot thread, so could someone please guide me?

I have found this, which is a detailed plot summary giving us an idea of what to expect. It answers several questions we have been discussing (origin of dinobots and link to Dinosaurs). It is obviously full of spoilers so anyone who wants to wait to watch the film, please do not click on this link.

It is an early review of the film with full plot summary:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-transformers-age-extinction-early-review-spoilers

william-james88 wrote:I cannot find the plot thread, so could someone please guide me?

I have found this, which is a detailed plot summary giving us an idea of what to expect. It answers all the questions we have been discussing. It is obviously full of spoilers so anyone who wants to wait to watch the film, please do not click on this link.

It is an early review of the film with full plot summary:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-transformers-age-extinction-early-review-spoilers

i read the article earlier its a bit sketchy.

william-james88 wrote:I cannot find the plot thread, so could someone please guide me?

I have found this, which is a detailed plot summary giving us an idea of what to expect. It answers all the questions we have been discussing. It is obviously full of spoilers so anyone who wants to wait to watch the film, please do not click on this link.

It is an early review of the film with full plot summary:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-transformers-age-extinction-early-review-spoilers

HAAAAAAAAA


Its fake dude especially since you got it off the same website a guy said his friend saw a trailers and gave a description of it

So who dies?

no mention of the other guys? Ratchet being in the film debunks that.

"A FRIEND of Cosmic Book News managed to see rough cut of Transformers: Age of Extinction." Haha, sure thing. It's always a "friend" isn't it? :L
The guy barely talks about anything new.
Lockdown working with Attinger to eliminate all Transformers doesn't really fit at all with what we've heard so far. "Lockdown's just a bounty hunter, he's here for one person, one alien and then he's out of here".
Dinobots only in the last 15-20 mins of the movie? That sounds like an extremely short final battle.
No mention of who Lockdown is working for or the whole "You were built, they want you back" thing?
I'd be shocked if this was legit.

Reminds me of the 80's

Yeah. It seems like this guy watched the trailers, then tried to make a complete movie plot out of it. There are no spoilers in it that aren't in the trailers. It's missing a lot of stuff. He tries to weasel out of giving us any plot details (and thus exposing his lie) by stating that the rest of the movie is "typical Bay stuff".

Gemini220 wrote:It kills me how so many bash TFs?! If you can do a better job get the funds up and make your own! People are are Nitpicking & Dissecting the movie from just a few clips they've seen giving negative comments?! WTH Are you millions invested in these movies?!

If you don't want to see the movie plain and simple don't go see it! It ain't rocket science! Everyday theirs someone B**ching & Complaining it ain't that deep!

so let me get this straight we should only express our opinions as long as they praise everything that is transformers? Those of us who dont like what we are seeing or dont like how a beloved franchise thats been around for 30 years is going should just shut our mouths? Last time i checked this is a discussion thread not a communist country and the point of a discussion thread is to get opinions of the users be them positive or negative. And those of us who bitch about these movies have every right to, just like how the people who praise these movies have every right to as well. You dont like it to bad cause thats how the internet works