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Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:31 pm**

The Official Transformers Collectors' Club has shared an image of their 2013 membership incentive figure Depthcharge. He will be free to those who have an active membership prior the March 16th deadline, and is scheduled to start shipping in late Spring to early Summer. Check out the image mirrored below.

Here is DEPTHCHARGE - the Transformers Collectors' Club FREE Membership Incentive Figure for 2013! This figure will be sent to any Transformers Collectors’ Club member whose membership is active by March 16, 2013. Depthcharge will come with his weapon and an exclusive Tech Spec. Members can expect to receive this figure, with all his accessories, in late spring/early summer.

If you join after the March 16th deadline, you will be eligible for the 2014 figure. All previous Membership Incentive figures are SOLD OUT, so you won't want to delay.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:41 pm**

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it looks noticeably worse than the original teaser images.

>:oP

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:45 pm**

I think he looks rather decent. The weapon could use some paint on the teeth, but I won't complain.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:48 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think he looks rather decent. The weapon could use some paint on the teeth, but I won't complain.

Perhaps, but I'm not willing to pay $40 for a "decent" Deluxe figure, are you?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:56 pm**

GuyIncognito wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think he looks rather decent. The weapon could use some paint on the teeth, but I won't complain.

Perhaps, but I'm not willing to pay $40 for a "decent" Deluxe figure, are you?

I am actually, for TakaraTomy figures :lol:

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:15 pm**

I like it, for what it is. I think the colors are a bit garish, though. Needs less yellow and more gold.

Too bad the Transmetals had serious paint dandruff. Otherwise they might've given him some gold.
Still think it fits Depth Charge. And that's good, because he was one of the coolest Beast Warriors.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:17 pm**

I'm not enthused...

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:21 pm**

i give up on transformers collectors club... these G2-inspired color schemes the last couple years are just so ugly... maybe if that were what i cut my transforming teeth on, it might be different, but they're just not for me... #-o

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:43 pm**

zonkers wrote:i give up on transformers collectors club... this G2-inspired color schemes the last couple years are just so ugly... maybe if that were what i cut my transforming teeth on, it might be different, but they're just not for me...

G2 inspired?

Depthcharge is one of my favorite Beast Wars characters. Cant wait to get my hands on it.

:MAXIMAL:

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:49 pm**

G2 inspired?

i do mean the technicolor-yawn color scheme.. i realize depthcharge is a beast wars character, but these colors still seem in line with the g2 theme, to me-- bright, overly-contrasty, garish... only semi-related, but i never cared for the beast sagas, either...

edit-- of course, these are only my personal tastes, i begrudge no one if they like this figure... i only just wanted to say out loud, for this collector, i am not motivated to pursue tfcc figs any more :-(

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:04 pm**

zonkers wrote:
G2 inspired?

i do mean the technicolor-yawn color scheme.. i realize depthcharge is a beast wars character, but these colors still seem in line with the g2 theme, to me-- bright, overly-contrasty, garish... only semi-related, but i never cared for the beast sagas, either...

This is really more in line with the '06 set than anything G2 really. Albeit 7 years too late. By your descriptions figures such as Grapple and Hot Spot are G2 - The actual figure is going to be much less vibrant than the photo suggests, I'm sure.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:31 pm**

i think he could look much better, but he does look okay. I'm a big fan of the character so wouldn't have minded being able to get my hands on him.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:24 pm**

Blurrz wrote:This is really more in line with the '06 set than anything G2 really. Albeit 7 years too late. By your descriptions figures such as Grapple and Hot Spot are G2 - The actual figure is going to be much less vibrant than the photo suggests, I'm sure.

hmmmmm..

i think both of those examples may be on the 'bright' side, but not excessively contrasty... on both, their secondary colors are blacks & greys; they let the primary color be the primary color... incidentally, i did pass on both of those repaints... not because the colors were too bright, but i didn't think there was anything 'wow' enough about them to reprise the mold in my collection...

but this depthcharge just strikes me as so 'busy', color-wise... its like everything is competing to be the primary (main) color... i think the blue is very primary (RGB-wise), the yellow doesn't strike me as 'gold', & also appears very primary, & then the pink (too light for magenta? i don't get the impression of purple) is a real turn off... i understand what you're saying about the pic making it look too vibrant, but i still have to say, based on this pic, i'm not motivated to stay a tfcc member... i've been turned off by all the tfcc g2 reprisals, & to me, this fig is not any kind of a departure... the only one of their g2-inspired repaints i acquired was punch-counterpunch, & even on him, the lavender & neon green on the tail, as well as the red trim on the wheels, all lend to this 'busy' feel... thankfully on him those are all relatively minor touches...

i think it goes for most of us that we are most attached to the characters we grew up with... i was a g1 kid... maybe if i grew up with the beast sagas, i'd feel differently...

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:31 pm**

TFCC can say Depth Charge all they want, but any fan of Beast Wars/Machines and RID who knows their bots will look at this and say "Sky-byte"

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:32 pm**

I like it.
Won't get it but i like it.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:38 pm**

Manterax Prime wrote:TFCC can say Depth Charge all they want, but any fan of Beast Wars/Machines and RID who knows their bots will look at this and say "Sky-byte"

actually, that was my 1st guess before i read the name

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 pm**

I only renewed for the Botcon discount. I guess he will join TFCC Airazor, DOTM Quickstrike, and PE Black Arachnia in my "Beast Wars never Happened" Cybertronian shelf. Hasbro alligns continuities, but I erase them and incorporate their characters into G1.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm**

i am actually looking forward to this guy
love that mold and the color scheme pops
fills the temporary DCharge space in my collection until i get a BWars fig

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:30 am**

Rated X wrote:I only renewed for the Botcon discount. I guess he will join TFCC Airazor, DOTM Quickstrike, and PE Black Arachnia in my "Beast Wars never Happened" Cybertronian shelf. Hasbro alligns continuities, but I erase them and incorporate their characters into G1.

Beast Wars is part of G1. So you're taking G1 characters and putting them....back into G1.

Or if we see DOTM Quickstrike and PE whatever they're calling the Blackarachnia bike as being from actual separate continuities, aren't you just aligning everything under G1, IE the same thing you lambast Hasbro for doing under a different banner? Your collection is yours to do with as you please, certainly, but what I recall of your explanations always seem to ride on false reasoning.

Well, this guy is okay. It's not my Depthcharge that I grew up with (and whose toy I never actually owned, I only had Rampage), but it's a cool-looking fig. I'd probably spring for an actual Transmetal Depth Charge on eBay, though, if I were in the market. Pre-Earth Beast Warriors don't really strike my fancy, and this one just doesn't seem right. His name is Depthcharge, after all, he should be a submarine or something.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:12 am**

That Bot wrote:
Rated X wrote:I only renewed for the Botcon discount. I guess he will join TFCC Airazor, DOTM Quickstrike, and PE Black Arachnia in my "Beast Wars never Happened" Cybertronian shelf. Hasbro alligns continuities, but I erase them and incorporate their characters into G1.

Beast Wars is part of G1. So you're taking G1 characters and putting them....back into G1.
Or if we see DOTM Quickstrike and PE whatever they're calling the Blackarachnia bike as being from actual separate continuities, aren't you just aligning everything under G1, IE the same thing you lambast Hasbro for doing under a different banner? Your collection is yours to do with as you please, certainly, but what I recall of your explanations always seem to ride on false reasoning.

Well, this guy is okay. It's not my Depthcharge that I grew up with (and whose toy I never actually owned, I only had Rampage), but it's a cool-looking fig. I'd probably spring for an actual Transmetal Depth Charge on eBay, though, if I were in the market. Pre-Earth Beast Warriors don't really strike my fancy, and this one just doesn't seem right. His name is Depthcharge, after all, he should be a submarine or something.

Beast Wars references to G1 are very vauge. Most notably you have the Ark back the age of the Dinosaurs before they awoke. No explanation is offered on why Megatron shares the name of his Predacessor, If Optimus Primal is related to the line of Primes after Ginrai, or why the Beast Wars robots are so small next to the ark robots if they came from the same "Cybertron". Did Cybertron shrink in it's 2nd golden era ? Then you have Starscreams ghost. (Even though Unicron gave Starscream his body back in G1 and wasnt a ghost anymore) I only watched the series once and cant remember any other vauge refrences to G1. To me it seems like the writers wrote G1 into the story later on in the series to appease G1 fans who wernt buying into the beast era. But it doesnr seem to be something they intended to do from the beginning in my honest opinion.

On my collection, Anything from another continuity automatically becomes "Ancient Cybertronian" from G1. You got a whole planet full of unseen robots and who's to say the G1 episodes covered all their stories and sagas. I keep thinking about the G1 movie scene where Unicron attacked Cybertron and Shockwave said "Were under attack, Decepticons scramble !" Out comes thousands of generic Decepticons who can easily be represented by figures from other continuities that look Cybertronian. Same is to be said with generic Autobots on the episode where the Aerialbots travel back in time or when the Quints controlled Cybertron leading up to the great wars. Like I said, I just erased the other continuities and re-purposed the figures as generic G1 characters. Unlike Hasbro, I didnt allign anything.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:05 am**

And canceled...$40 saved! Weird they went this route after knocking it out of the park last year. Whatevs...

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:41 pm**

Rated X wrote:No explanation is offered on why Megatron shares the name of his Predacessor,

He chose it deliberately.

If Optimus Primal is related to the line of Primes after Ginrai,

He's not. He's a random Cybertronian who chose the name as a tribute to the great Autobot leader, similar to what Megatron did. From a toy standpoint, before the show, the BW characters were meant to be the original Optimus Prime and Megatron, hence the names.

or why the Beast Wars robots are so small next to the ark robots if they came from the same "Cybertron". Did Cybertron shrink in it's 2nd golden era ?

I don't remember if this is explained in the show or supplementary media, but there was a great reformation where all Cybertronians upgraded to smaller, more efficient bodies.

Then you have Starscreams ghost. (Even though Unicron gave Starscream his body back in G1 and wasnt a ghost anymore)

Honestly I don't remember this at all, so I can't provide any input.

I only watched the series once and cant remember any other vauge refrences to G1. To me it seems like the writers wrote G1 into the story later on in the series to appease G1 fans who wernt buying into the beast era. But it doesnr seem to be something they intended to do from the beginning in my honest opinion.

The writers were initially on the fence about whether to set Beast Wars on Earth or not, and they eventually settled on it being Earth at the end of the first season. Large and small references to the G1 cartoon were there from the beginning, and any question of whether it was in the G1 timeline was settled in Beast Machines.

Like I said, I just erased the other continuities and re-purposed the figures as generic G1 characters. Unlike Hasbro, I didnt allign anything.

To be technical, Hasbro didn't align previous continuities. They took ideas from old ones and made a new one to hold all new properties. It's not like G1 Optimus Prime is running around with AEC Hot Shot and Movie Ironhide. On the flip side, that's basically exactly what you're doing. Even if you pretend the figures are unseen G1 characters, they're still technically from other universes. So by erasing the other continuities and putting their characters in G1 (even if you make them into new G1 characters), you're doing more aligning than Hasbro.

I don't want to dwell on this too much, because it's not the point of the topic. I just wanted to address some of your points. Obviously, you're free to do as you want with your collection.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:44 pm**

That Bot wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Then you have Starscreams ghost. (Even though Unicron gave Starscream his body back in G1 and wasnt a ghost anymore)

Honestly I don't remember this at all, so I can't provide any input.

Season 3 Episode 15 Ghost in the Machine

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Machine

I guess we have a different opinion on what alligning means, but that cool.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:00 pm**

zonkers wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:TFCC can say Depth Charge all they want, but any fan of Beast Wars/Machines and RID who knows their bots will look at this and say "Sky-byte"

actually, that was my 1st guess before i read the name

But they already did Sky-Byte.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sky-Byte_(G2)

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:31 pm**

Rated X wrote:Most notably you have the Ark back the age of the Dinosaurs before they awoke.

Ummm... BW had nothing to do with the Dinosaur time period. All "dinoformers" in the show scanned fossils that were in the ground.

Rated X wrote:No explanation is offered on why Megatron shares the name of his Predacessor,

It is stated that BW Megs "took his name" from the original Megs.

Rated X wrote:If Optimus Primal is related to the line of Primes after Ginrai,

BW Optimus mentions being a descendent of Optimus Prime, but that might've been in BM, can't remember for sure.

Rated X wrote:Then you have Starscreams ghost. (Even though Unicron gave Starscream his body back in G1 and wasnt a ghost anymore)

And then SS body was badly damaged and wasn't he last seen drifting off through space? I always believed that he was killed again.

Rated X wrote:I only watched the series once and cant remember any other vauge refrences to G1. To me it seems like the writers wrote G1 into the story later on in the series to appease G1 fans who wernt buying into the beast era. But it doesnr seem to be something they intended to do from the beginning in my honest opinion.

That Bot wrote:The writers were initially on the fence about whether to set Beast Wars on Earth or not, and they eventually settled on it being Earth at the end of the first season. Large and small references to the G1 cartoon were there from the beginning, and any question of whether it was in the G1 timeline was settled in Beast Machines.

It was Hasbro that was on the fence. The writers basically made it Earth and added a second moon just in case Has wanted it to be an alien planet. They admit that they didn't know much about G1 when they started but continued to add little bits here and there as they went.

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