The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:06 pm

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tinncity wrote:how many new jazz masterpieces are out now? i know there is the coolville by toyworld which looks the best...and the downbeat by maketoys which looks ok...is there another one coming? i read somewhere that a new toy company was gonna make one?
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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:21 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
tinncity wrote:how many new jazz masterpieces are out now? i know there is the coolville by toyworld which looks the best...and the downbeat by maketoys which looks ok...is there another one coming? i read somewhere that a new toy company was gonna make one?
Third party toys don't get galleries here (anymore, that is). They aren't official Transformers products.


As in, not made by either Hasbro, TakaraTomy or a licensee thereof. Third Party products aren't endorsed by either company (in fact, Hasbro groans every time it's brought up), so they don't find support here.
It did in the early days, but now there are so many, buying and doing galleries of them, along with the official toys in addition to maintaining the website, it's simply unfeasible. Not to mention all the companies do is play monkey see monkey do. The 3 versions of "MP Jazz" says enough.
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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby tinncity » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:09 am

well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out? i'm just a guy that used to play with them as a kid and has a newfound interest in them. i don't care what company makes them as long as they're cool! i did always wonder though how third party companies can get away with copyright infringement? i guess it would be too costly to go after all of them?
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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:34 am

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tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out?
There hasn't been any announcement of one yet. No one knows when TakaraTomy decides to make their announcements of new Masterpiece figures, nor can anyone tell which characters they'll choose to make next. It's all up to Takara.
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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:32 pm

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tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out? i'm just a guy that used to play with them as a kid and has a newfound interest in them. i don't care what company makes them as long as they're cool!


It's not just TakaraTomy that makes the call, but also the company to license the car model from. In the 80's licensing was hardly ever done, but nowadays car manufacturers require it: that explains why current figures have mashed up or made-up models for cars and even aircraft. Between Binaltech/Alternators, Alternity and Masterpiece that use licensed models these brands have done business with Hasbro/TakaraTomy:

- Subaru
- Dodge
- Jeep
- Chevrolet
- Mazda
- Ford
- Honda (with a bit of a hitch)
- Toyota
- Nissan
- Suzuki
- Mitsuoka
- Lamborghini (after a change of heart)
- Volkswagen (another that later changed its mind)
- Lancia
- Fuso

Porsche, the company responsible for Jazz and Cliffjumper's car modes, has yet to give its approval. But during Binaltech and Alternators some characters got car models different from their G1 versions: Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (Dodge Viper instead of Lamborghini Countach), Smokescreen and Bluestreak/Silverstreak (Subaru Impreza instead of Nissan 330ZX), and Jazz:

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Transformers Alternators Meister (Jazz) (Meister) Gallery

...as a Mazda RX-08, instead of Porsche 935 Turbo and renamed Meister after his Japanese name. That's the closest to an official MP Jazz we have. Well... not counting this guy:

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Transformers Reveal The Shield Special Ops Jazz Gallery

Sorry for the history lesson. :oops:

tinncity wrote: i did always wonder though how third party companies can get away with copyright infringement? i guess it would be too costly to go after all of them?


The long and the short of it, is that they keep a low profile to not make a real financial threat, keeping their products out of domestic chains, not copying the designs exactly, instead making "inspired" designs and not using any of Hasbro's trademarked names for their figures. The result would be that even if Hasbro had a case, it would be a long, difficult and expensive process to pursue.
However, Hasbro has shut down knockoff companies that have flat-out copied designs and had them sold in stores, starting way back in the 80's and continuing to the 2007 Movie. Plus, they practically banned unlicensed product from BotCon (they did allow artists selling their fan art after protests). They will fight if threatened.
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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out?
There hasn't been any announcement of one yet. No one knows when TakaraTomy decides to make their announcements of new Masterpiece figures, nor can anyone tell which characters they'll choose to make next. It's all up to Takara.

Not just Takara. Porsche's ownership is pretty complicated and might be part of the reason why the license is so elusive. To quote Wikipedia: "Porsche AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, and is owned by Volkswagen AG, which is itself majority-owned by Porsche Automobil Holding SE." It was a long struggle to get whichever of these companies to hand over the VW Beetle license, I feel like if Takara Tomy was able to negotiate for Jazz (and Cliffjumper) at the time they would have and we'd already have him. Maybe the majority-owner said fine, take the Bug license, but Porsche is protected?

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Re: The all-new "What figures do you want to see galleries of next" thread

Postby Airman343 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:23 am

I'd like to see galleries of the go-bots/spy changers, especially those two that weren't produced (the mercedes-benz and hound)
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