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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby ShadowKatt » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:01 pm

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Tammuz wrote:
ShadowKatt wrote: I figured if I couldn't beat them then I'd get them myself.


that's the thing, you can beat them.


The setup I had wasn't though, hence why I got them. The black magic has been kicking tail, the dol lasers haven't. Good strafing weapons are hard to come by =\ I can try rearranging some stats though to beef up their abilities
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Tammuz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:17 pm

deal with them independantly; don't think you need to have a high FP weapon, or even high FP, strafe is boosted by strafe and FP, so with strafers it's best to go whichever of strafe/fp is cheapest to upgrade. remember just becuase you have 6 FP doesn't mean you need to have a six firepower weapon, if you can find a bette 5 firepower weapon it's better to use that.

the best example of this is the xray laser compared to the chainsaw sword; the xray requires no stats, and does more damage, and recharges faster and requires you to have 7 skill and 5 Firepower.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby ShadowKatt » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:26 pm

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I did experiment with that, cause I was curious how to max out the damage for my strafers. Deafcon has higher firepower, and Tactical Strike has higher strength. TS seems to be doing more strafing damage to me, which makes me wonder if strafers even need a weapon, or if a weapon will boost their damage output
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:31 pm

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Rat Convoy wrote:I greatly prefer missions. However, as a Maximal, the whole being outnumbered all the time deal is really starting to grate on me. I've been forced to create a few arena-monkeys just to make energon.


The Energon/experience payback should be multiplied by how outnumbered you find yourself.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Rat Convoy » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:52 pm

Me, Grimlock! wrote:
Rat Convoy wrote:I greatly prefer missions. However, as a Maximal, the whole being outnumbered all the time deal is really starting to grate on me. I've been forced to create a few arena-monkeys just to make energon.


The Energon/experience payback should be multiplied by how outnumbered you find yourself.


XP isn't a problem, actually, especially with my strafers. I'm making some really good XP. But covering CR for a stasis locked level 6 or 7 often eats up all of my energon earnings and more.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Tammuz » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:59 pm

ShadowKatt wrote:I did experiment with that, cause I was curious how to max out the damage for my strafers. Deafcon has higher firepower, and Tactical Strike has higher strength. TS seems to be doing more strafing damage to me, which makes me wonder if strafers even need a weapon, or if a weapon will boost their damage output


strength doesn't affect strafe damage at all. unarmed/weapon/ram damage only

each point in strafe gets you more shots in each strafe, each point in FP increases each shots damage, so if you're outnumbered it's best to lean more on strafe than FP, if you outnumber them it's best to go on FP, ultimatley you want to max both.

and while you may not need a weapon, at best a third of your attacks will be strafe, so you might aswell try to boost the remaining 2/3rds as much as possible too, strength and a decent weapon are the way to do that
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby ShadowKatt » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:04 pm

Motto: "Everything works out."
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Gotcha.

Edit: I just got enough xp to get my first upgrade for Tx-58349, and there's a Robot Abilities upgrade....

What is this? I've never seen this before :?
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby The Chaos Bringer » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:26 pm

Neither one works for me. I swear it's impossible for level 0s to get anywhere these days.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Tammuz » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:31 pm

drop the disruptor rifles, get x-rays, you've got more than enough energon to spare,
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby The Chaos Bringer » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:21 pm

Ok I took the advice and equipped my troops with x-rays as soon as they got out of CR. They all just got out of Arena matches. While only one of them won, they all survived :D I look forward to seeing how they do with x-rays.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby ShadowKatt » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:57 pm

Motto: "Everything works out."
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The Chaos Bringer wrote:Neither one works for me. I swear it's impossible for level 0s to get anywhere these days.

I actually switched to doing the missions just because of my lvl 0. Being a Decepticon, half the time I have no competition in the missions, so my lvl 0 picks up free xp
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby Psychout » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:50 am

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The Chaos Bringer wrote:Neither one works for me. I swear it's impossible for level 0s to get anywhere these days.

It is a grind, but if you are constantly outnumbered, use xrays and avoid to Destroy Wheelie as much as possible and you'll get to level 1 eventually.
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Re: The Arena vs. The Battlefield

Postby .:mag:. » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:18 pm

My bots are great both on arena and missions but I prefer missions because they give me much more fun. I send my team on arena only when missions are empty (no enemy).
When I came back to HMW (it was few days ago) I was surprised that my ramers are that good on arena :shock: - OK its fun, for short time but on lvl4 you can only earn 2k xp...
And in missions there is something named 'team work' :D I remember my begining, how it was cool to win an outnumbered mission... It always stays the same :)
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