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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:13 pm

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5150 Cruiser wrote: Back on the Autobot base Optimus explained that the Scraplets had probably been placed in the pod back on Cybertron and ejected into space. It was never said that they were meant to be a trap for the Autobots, but that they happened to land on earth. They found them by quincedence, but since it had cybertrion significance it was brought back to base to further study. Optimus and Arcee went back to continue searching for what Bulkhead and Bumblebee were oringaly looking for.
But then who put them in the pod and for what purpose? Whoever did had gathered the mall together in one place to have put them in that pod, so why not destroy the Scraplets instead of putting them in the pod?

5150 Cruiser wrote:Really? I couldn't tell. The preview went to fast to really identifiy how he looked as a whole. Hopefully he has a completely orignal Alt mode than BB. Here's hoping for some kind of Porche look alike alt.
I simply paused the DVR and walked up to the TV screen to look at him. Calling him a "White Bumblebee" is just my best guess, since the picture was still pretty small.

Though, his face does still give me the creeps.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Sabrblade wrote: But then who put them in the pod and for what purpose? Whoever did had gathered the mall together in one place to have put them in that pod, so why not destroy the Scraplets instead of putting them in the pod?


Don't know who put them in the pod, but the purpose seemed to be to mainly just get rid of them. As you saw it wasn't to easy to destroy them. So maybe this was there best bet.
But one thing you must remember is that this is after all, a childs Cartoon. Their not going to go into full detail on every aspect of the series. Kids attention spans nowadays is short enough. Get into a story too deep, and your bound to loose them.


Sabrblade wrote:I simply paused the DVR and walked up to the TV screen to look at him. Calling him a "White Bumblebee" is just my best guess, since the picture was still pretty small.

Though, his face does still give me the creeps.


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Scourgescream » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:17 am

There is a close up picture on TFwiki of Wheeljacks face. There is a clear G1 influence but he also looks a bit like a 'con. He has the same wavy "eyebrow" things that Megs and Skyquake have.

Anyone know if Wheekjack is staying in the show or if this is just another one off?

EDIT: There appears to be a thread that started after i posted this which shows what i was talking about
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:40 am

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I wasnt thrilled with this episode this was boring to me although I have enjoyed Prime thus fire this episode didnt do it for me.

Looking forward to Con-Job to see what Wheel Jack will do.

Usually in these Wheel Jack will turn and join the Decipticons wonder if that will happen again with Prime.

Also Con Job the name of the episode seems to be fishy just curious and also I dont really trust Wheeljack but I cant say that for sure without seeing the episode in action.

I just hope that Con Job is better than Scrap Heap.

Then the next 2 episodes Convoy & Dues EX Machina I hope these are good ones.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby syphonn » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:02 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Episode 7 -

Wait. Bulkhead and Bumblebee need to be checked after being in the cold arctic weather, yet they have no such issues with being in outer space (which is much colder than the arctic)?

So in this series, the Transformers are now affected by freezing cold weather? Why would they need such a handicap when others series didn't really have this problem?



I noticed this as well.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:13 pm

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syphonn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Episode 7 -

Wait. Bulkhead and Bumblebee need to be checked after being in the cold arctic weather, yet they have no such issues with being in outer space (which is much colder than the arctic)?

So in this series, the Transformers are now affected by freezing cold weather? Why would they need such a handicap when others series didn't really have this problem?



I noticed this as well.


In the movies, Megatron was in stasis for centuries because of cold weather.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:22 pm

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syphonn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Episode 7 -

Wait. Bulkhead and Bumblebee need to be checked after being in the cold arctic weather, yet they have no such issues with being in outer space (which is much colder than the arctic)?

So in this series, the Transformers are now affected by freezing cold weather? Why would they need such a handicap when others series didn't really have this problem?



I noticed this as well.


In the movies, Megatron was in stasis for centuries because of cold weather.
He. Was. BURIED! :BOOM:

All I'm trying to say is that the TFs in this series are less resistance to cold weather than those of past series.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:26 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:He. Was. BURIED! :BOOM:

All I'm trying to say is that the TFs in this series are less resistance to cold weather than those of past series.


He. Was. BURIED! ... IN ICE!

Are you also forgetting how S7 took Bumblebee down? They used cold.

Then there was G1 Skyfire (Jetfire) who was found in a block of ice. So the whole cold immobalizing Cybertronians isn't very new.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:59 pm

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:He. Was. BURIED! :BOOM:

All I'm trying to say is that the TFs in this series are less resistance to cold weather than those of past series.


He. Was. BURIED! ... IN ICE!

Are you also forgetting how S7 took Bumblebee down? They used cold.

Then there was G1 Skyfire (Jetfire) who was found in a block of ice. So the whole cold immobalizing Cybertronians isn't very new.
Go watch any episode G1, Beast Wars, RiD, Armada, and/or Cybertron* where they're in such cold polar regions and see how everyone can just walk around with little-to-no problems. Prime and Arcee almost died by simply walking around in the same cold weather.


* Cyb. Scattorshot was a case similar to Movie Megs and G1 Skyfire: being frozen in ice to do a direct physical contact exposure (i.e. - Starscream soaked him, rendering him vulnerable).
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:33 pm

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And again, how did Sector 7 take Bumblebee down in the first movie?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:37 pm

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Burn wrote:And again, how did Sector 7 take Bumblebee down in the first movie?
That case was kinda akin to what happened to Cyb. Scattorshot. They got up close and practically injected his systems with cold.

Plus, if you watch Cyber Missions, all the Movie characters walk around in the Arctic with little to no trouble at all. The worst that happens is that Bumblebee's weapon malfunctions due to the cold, but that's it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:47 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:He. Was. BURIED! :BOOM:


Geology lesson: Anything that was on the surface 10,000 years ago is currently underground. For example, Dinosaurs fossils.

My point is, Megatron wasn't buried. He crashed, froze, then went offline. Then, over the course of 10,000 years, the ice cavern formed around and over him. Like the space ship from The Thing.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:08 pm

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Shadowman wrote:My point is, Megatron wasn't buried. He crashed, froze, then went offline. Then, over the course of 10,000 years, the ice cavern formed around and over him. Like the space ship from The Thing.
He touched down on Earth, took a few steps, then the ground below him gave away and he fell, being encased in a icy prison.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:27 am

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Shadowman wrote:My point is, Megatron wasn't buried. He crashed, froze, then went offline. Then, over the course of 10,000 years, the ice cavern formed around and over him. Like the space ship from The Thing.
He touched down on Earth, took a few steps, then the ground below him gave away and he fell, being encased in a icy prison.


Yes. And the sub-zero temperatures are what knocked him offline. Sector Seven keeping him frozen kept him offline. If he suffered actual damage to knock him offline, I doubt he'd be at psychotic rampage capacity so soon after Frenzy and Starscream defrosted him.

Sabrblade wrote:They got up close and practically injected his systems with cold.


So being sprayed with sub-zero gasses is different from being in the Arctic? How?

Also, I will bet all of my limbs that Cyber Missions will be completely retconned out of existence by DOTM. As if Frenzy being inexplicably alive didn't already.

Face it, there ARE cases of sub-zero temperatures being dangerous to Transformers.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Dead Metal » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:07 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Episode 7 -

Wait. Bulkhead and Bumblebee need to be checked after being in the cold arctic weather, yet they have no such issues with being in outer space (which is much colder than the arctic)?

So in this series, the Transformers are now affected by freezing cold weather? Why would they need such a handicap when others series didn't really have this problem?



I noticed this as well.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:06 am

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Shadowman wrote:My point is, Megatron wasn't buried. He crashed, froze, then went offline. Then, over the course of 10,000 years, the ice cavern formed around and over him. Like the space ship from The Thing.
He touched down on Earth, took a few steps, then the ground below him gave away and he fell, being encased in a icy prison.


Yes. And the sub-zero temperatures are what knocked him offline. Sector Seven keeping him frozen kept him offline. If he suffered actual damage to knock him offline, I doubt he'd be at psychotic rampage capacity so soon after Frenzy and Starscream defrosted him.
He was doing just fine until he fell.

Shadowman wrote:Also, I will bet all of my limbs that Cyber Missions will be completely retconned out of existence by DOTM. As if Frenzy being inexplicably alive didn't already.
Well, yeah, maybe, but let's wait and see.

Shadowman wrote:Face it, there ARE cases of sub-zero temperatures being dangerous to Transformers.
True, but they are just as many (if not more) cases of the opposite.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:05 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Face it, there ARE cases of sub-zero temperatures being dangerous to Transformers.
True, but they are just as many (if not more) cases of the opposite.


Yeah, and there's cases of Dark Energon NOT turning TFs into zombies. Doesn't mean it can't happen.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:23 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Face it, there ARE cases of sub-zero temperatures being dangerous to Transformers.
True, but they are just as many (if not more) cases of the opposite.


Yeah, and there's cases of Dark Energon NOT turning TFs into zombies. Doesn't mean it can't happen.
I never said it couldn't happen. I've been trying to say that it doesn't always happen.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:22 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Face it, there ARE cases of sub-zero temperatures being dangerous to Transformers.
True, but they are just as many (if not more) cases of the opposite.


Yeah, and there's cases of Dark Energon NOT turning TFs into zombies. Doesn't mean it can't happen.
I never said it couldn't happen. I've been trying to say that it doesn't always happen.


Then what's the problem? Just because it doesn't always happen doesn't mean it's some gigantic sin when it does.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:25 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Then what's the problem? Just because it doesn't always happen doesn't mean it's some gigantic sin when it does.
It just seems like a stupid handicap, when there have been several other cases were this handicap did not exist (while not excluding the cases of the contrary).
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:56 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Then what's the problem? Just because it doesn't always happen doesn't mean it's some gigantic sin when it does.
It just seems like a stupid handicap, when there have been several other cases were this handicap did not exist (while not excluding the cases of the contrary).


Yes, and there's been cases where this handicap did exist. So there's no point in arguing over it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:28 am

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I didnt like Scrapheap sorry It was just bland and dull but it would have been better if Srapheap had more action in it.

But we did learn some cool new facts about the Transformers such as they cant survive sub artic temperature's for very long or it shuts down thier systems.

Scraplets are from Generation 1 They eat anything metallic or living Metal but they also can not survive in sub artic temprature's.

I am looking forward towards more episodes learning more about the Transformers even though I am a Generation 1 original I still am learning more and more about the Transformers from the series, the movies and the new comics.

I cant wait for Con-Job I hope it will be better than scrapheap delivering more on action and a better storyline.

They are still a quiet a bit of episodes in Season 1. This is only episode 8 with Con Job they are 26 episodes in season 1 so still quiet a bit left.

With Season 2 adding another 26 episodes.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:25 pm

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Red 50 wrote:Then we have something to wait for.

Still hope that Fowler and June get more screen-time (Jack did promise to take her on a spin every once in a while)


For starters, no teenager wants to be seen with their mother in public. Much less so when their a social outcast like Jack. Much less so pressed together on a motorcycle. And much less so when that motorcycle happens to be more-or-less marked "kill-on-sight" by the Decepticons.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:06 pm

Motto: "If my first sacrifice wasn't enough, maybe you would prefer to pay with your funky blood."
Weapon: Sword
The episodes are getting better and better. But there is just too much disappointing stuff happening for this to be my new favorite series.

Wheeljack has a mouth

The sword fight at the end was too short

Makeshift would have made a freaking cool character! They should have kept him!!! Every cool idea they have in this show, it seems like they scrap it.

Wheeljack should have stayed with the Autobots! Again, everything cool that happens gets crushed and thrown in the garbage disposal like Blurr in Animated.

And Optimus is always missing! I want to see him kill someone!!! :evil:
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