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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:28 am

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njb902 wrote:okay so bumblebee goes after mech.....don't they keep any spare guns...swords....big sticks..at their base?


Nope. Weapons in the Aligned continuity are all internalized.
Except for Skyquake's machine Gatling gun and Wheeljack's swords. ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:46 am

saberblade I do see your point about the shield. I have not read the books yet so thanks for the heads up on the other stuff.


though again I stand by the not even a big stick comment.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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njb902 wrote:though again I stand by the not even a big stick comment.
Bee wanted to deal with by fighting like a real bot. To quote G1 Megatron, "I'll crush you with my bare hands!"
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:though again I stand by the not even a big stick comment.
Bee wanted to deal with by fighting like a real bot. To quote G1 Megatron, "I'll crush you with my bare hands!"


do you really belive so. or was that intended as sarcasm, I only ask because it is dificult to convey online.

anywho one thing I'm also wondering is if energon is scarce and the autobots are known to the government why not use some modified human weapons. I'm betting say anti tank weapons would harm a cybertronian(sp?). though perhaps thw government wont let them.....yes I know I awnsered my own question however I like to muse on what ifs.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:46 pm

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njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:though again I stand by the not even a big stick comment.
Bee wanted to deal with by fighting like a real bot. To quote G1 Megatron, "I'll crush you with my bare hands!"


do you really belive so. or was that intended as sarcasm, I only ask because it is dificult to convey online.
Well, he wanted to settle his score with them personally, even if he couldn't deploy his guns.

njb902 wrote:anywho one thing I'm also wondering is if energon is scarce and the autobots are known to the government why not use some modified human weapons. I'm betting say anti tank weapons would harm a cybertronian(sp?). though perhaps thw government wont let them.....yes I know I awnsered my own question however I like to muse on what ifs.
Cybertronian weapons are probably still superior to human weapons, modified or not. So, while their resources are limited, what they got is probably better than any other options. Plus, Optimus wants as little involvement of humanity in their war as possible.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:though again I stand by the not even a big stick comment.
Bee wanted to deal with by fighting like a real bot. To quote G1 Megatron, "I'll crush you with my bare hands!"


do you really belive so. or was that intended as sarcasm, I only ask because it is dificult to convey online.
Well, he wanted to settle his score with them personally, even if he couldn't deploy his guns.

njb902 wrote:anywho one thing I'm also wondering is if energon is scarce and the autobots are known to the government why not use some modified human weapons. I'm betting say anti tank weapons would harm a cybertronian(sp?). though perhaps thw government wont let them.....yes I know I awnsered my own question however I like to muse on what ifs.
Cybertronian weapons are probably still superior to human weapons, modified or not. So, while their resources are limited, what they got is probably better than any other options. Plus, Optimus wants as little involvement of humanity in their war as possible.


no doubt about the power of the weapons. guess maybe I'm just expecting to much from a childrens show. I just can't help but think that for as long as they have been fighting the would be better at it. though I do suppose that could be the very reason they cany....war does take a toll.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:03 pm

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njb902 wrote:anywho one thing I'm also wondering is if energon is scarce and the autobots are known to the government why not use some modified human weapons. I'm betting say anti tank weapons would harm a cybertronian(sp?). though perhaps thw government wont let them.....yes I know I awnsered my own question however I like to muse on what ifs.
Cybertronian weapons are probably still superior to human weapons, modified or not. So, while their resources are limited, what they got is probably better than any other options. Plus, Optimus wants as little involvement of humanity in their war as possible.


Exactly. Every time we see humans in combat with Cybertronians, human weapons are little more than an annoyance. The only real weapon effective against them is MECH's stun-gun, and that only works as long as the user gets the drop on the victim, and said victim doesn't have back-up.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:06 pm

sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:08 pm

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njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:12 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:anywho one thing I'm also wondering is if energon is scarce and the autobots are known to the government why not use some modified human weapons. I'm betting say anti tank weapons would harm a cybertronian(sp?). though perhaps thw government wont let them.....yes I know I awnsered my own question however I like to muse on what ifs.
Cybertronian weapons are probably still superior to human weapons, modified or not. So, while their resources are limited, what they got is probably better than any other options. Plus, Optimus wants as little involvement of humanity in their war as possible.


Exactly. Every time we see humans in combat with Cybertronians, human weapons are little more than an annoyance. The only real weapon effective against them is MECH's stun-gun, and that only works as long as the user gets the drop on the victim, and said victim doesn't have back-up.



but what have we seen besides small calibre weapons and explosives designed to damage lightly armoured planes. give bulkhead a bushmaster cannon off a Bradley and lets see whart it could do. also I'm willing to bet they could modify them in ways to make them more effective. all speculation of course.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:16 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.



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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:19 pm

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njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.



lol that was finite

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:20 pm

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Cybertronians using human technology's functionality in their own weapons?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.



lol that was finite

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well, if they were Cobra, they'd be called Cobra. ;)



good point......maybe the have departments ya know like walmart just inatead of electronics and furniture they have mech and jelly belly ;-)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:26 pm

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njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.



lol that was finite

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well, if they were Cobra, they'd be called Cobra. ;)



good point......maybe the have departments ya know like walmart just inatead of electronics and furniture they have mech and jelly belly ;-)
If they wanted to use Cobra, Hasbro wouldn't have created a whole separate terrorist organization with its own identity in MECH. They would have just used Cobra.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:31 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
njb902 wrote:sorry if this has been brought up before(don't want to read 200 pages) but anyone think MECH could be COBRA? they both seem to be high tech terrorist organizations with snazzy vehicles.
No.



lol that was finite

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well, if they were Cobra, they'd be called Cobra. ;)



good point......maybe the have departments ya know like walmart just inatead of electronics and furniture they have mech and jelly belly ;-)
If they wanted to use Cobra, Hasbro wouldn't have created a whole separate terrorist organization with its own identity in MECH. They would have just used Cobra.



easy easy
....that was intended as sarcasm, so damned hard to get across online. like I said a fan boy can dream I understand they are different names and organizations.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:37 pm

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njb902 wrote:easy easy
....that was intended as sarcasm, so damned hard to get across online. like I said a fan boy can dream I understand they are different names and organizations.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Foxbear » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:58 pm

:-? Well, "Renegades" was officially referred to as "Prime's sister show" at least once by the HUB. I know, I know, no link, bad me. :( But it was some time ago I read this. So I would not rule out a crossover at some point in the future. Perhaps subtle along the lines of Marissa Faireborn serving in the EDC in G1. Or maybe something more pronounced.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:40 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Dark Ops » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:57 pm

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For some reason I just can't get into this series. I don't know what it is, I don't know why I'm so bleh to it. I have nothing I actively /dislike/ about the series. It just feels so... generic. Does anyone else have that impression?

I know everyone has different tastes in Transformers. Personally I loved Animated. Loved everything about it. I know people hate it, just as I know people love Prime. I'm certainly not going to bash others for enjoying it. I just can't get into it at all, even though I'd really like to. I have season one. Watched it, just didn't feel the love.

Is there anything I can be directed towards that would "wow" me about the show?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:29 pm

Dark Ops wrote:For some reason I just can't get into this series. I don't know what it is, I don't know why I'm so bleh to it. I have nothing I actively /dislike/ about the series. It just feels so... generic. Does anyone else have that impression?

I know everyone has different tastes in Transformers. Personally I loved Animated. Loved everything about it. I know people hate it, just as I know people love Prime. I'm certainly not going to bash others for enjoying it. I just can't get into it at all, even though I'd really like to. I have season one. Watched it, just didn't feel the love.

Is there anything I can be directed towards that would "wow" me about the show?


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Volrathicus Baenimus » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:06 pm

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So, interesting info came in today via the toyline...the back of Dreadwing's cyberverse figure refers to him as a seeker.

We've heard complaints about Dreadwing being the same model as Skyquake. What if in the Primeverse, the seekers all share Skyquake's model instead of Starscream's? With their size, aggression and big honkin' guns they could be the decepticon equivalent of Wreckers.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:10 pm

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:So, interesting info came in today via the toyline...the back of Dreadwing's cyberverse figure refers to him as a seeker.

We've heard complaints about Dreadwing being the same model as Skyquake. What if in the Primeverse, the seekers all share Skyquake's model instead of Starscream's? With their size, aggression and big honkin' guns they could be the decepticon equivalent of Wreckers.



don't forget the vehicon jets as well.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:21 pm

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Dark Ops wrote:Is there anything I can be directed towards that would "wow" me about the show?
It took me a while to really get invested in this series too. The first bunch of episodes weren't really much to shake a stick at. But at episdoe 12, it got me. That episode was above and beyond great. Even more so with episode 17. :KREMZEEK:

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:So, interesting info came in today via the toyline...the back of Dreadwing's cyberverse figure refers to him as a seeker.

We've heard complaints about Dreadwing being the same model as Skyquake. What if in the Primeverse, the seekers all share Skyquake's model instead of Starscream's? With their size, aggression and big honkin' guns they could be the decepticon equivalent of Wreckers.
From what I could tell from both WFC and Exodus, the Seekers in this continuity appear to be any (but not all) flying Decepticons with a jet-like altmode. Some look like Starscream's body-type (Skywarp, Thundercracker), some look like a modified version of his body type (Slipstream, Thrust, Ramjet), and some look different. So I guess any jet-like Decepticon can be considered a Seeker unless stated otherwise.

Though, their Autobot counterparts are the Aerialbots, not the Wreckers.

njb902 wrote:don't forget the vehicon jets as well.
Which is why I've been unofficially referring to those Vehicons as a "Seeker variant". ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:29 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Dark Ops wrote:Is there anything I can be directed towards that would "wow" me about the show?
It took me a while to really get invested in this series too. The first bunch of episodes weren't really much to shake a stick at. But at episdoe 12, it got me. That episode was above and beyond great. Even more so with episode 17. :KREMZEEK:

Volrathicus Baenimus wrote:So, interesting info came in today via the toyline...the back of Dreadwing's cyberverse figure refers to him as a seeker.

We've heard complaints about Dreadwing being the same model as Skyquake. What if in the Primeverse, the seekers all share Skyquake's model instead of Starscream's? With their size, aggression and big honkin' guns they could be the decepticon equivalent of Wreckers.
From what I could tell from both WFC and Exodus, the Seekers in this continuity appear to be any (but not all) flying Decepticons with a jet-like altmode. Some look like Starscream's body-type (Skywarp, Thundercracker), some look like a modified version of his body type (Slipstream, Thrust, Ramjet), and some look different. So I guess any jet-like Decepticon can be considered a Seeker unless stated otherwise.

Though, their Autobot counterparts are the Aerialbots, not the Wreckers.

njb902 wrote:don't forget the vehicon jets as well.
Which is why I've been unofficially referring to those Vehicons as a "Seeker variant". ;)


again thanks for the info

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
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