G1 Smoketreader wrote:Airachnid: Might be dead, discarded with the M.E.C.H plot hook, but could be on the loose again, broken free of stasis when the base collapsed, or else found and brought back into action by Wheeljack or some Decep.
Airachnid, if she rejoins the Deceps, may sway Starscreams' loyalties again, tho Knockout is also corruptible now as he needs to start watching his back after the cortical patch episode.
If she stays rogue, she may team up with Wheeljack for a little while until they can get away from ground zero.
Ratchet: I don't think his problem with Optimus has enough torque on him to switch allegiances.
If Jazz, I hope for an Elite Guard vet,
If Prowl, not a motorbike,
Curiosity: Will Predaking roam to search for the remaining Autobots, or will they congregate on Megatrons fortress in desire to reclaim Optimus Prime?
Fowler:The Human perspective: If he has decided it's time to call things an emergency, he may push for the military to set up a new M.E.C.H project.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:Airachnid: Might be dead, discarded with the M.E.C.H plot hook, but could be on the loose again, broken free of stasis when the base collapsed, or else found and brought back into action by Wheeljack or some Decep.
Wheeljack's an Autobot; you know that, right? And, Airachnid is a rogue Decepticon. She tried to overthrow Megatron and killed Breakdown. The 'cons would do well to leave her in a vegetative state, if she is in one.Airachnid, if she rejoins the Deceps, may sway Starscreams' loyalties again, tho Knockout is also corruptible now as he needs to start watching his back after the cortical patch episode.
Why would she join the Decepticons again. No...why would Megatron allow her to join the Decepticons again. Airachnid wouldn't have anything of interest to Megatron.If she stays rogue, she may team up with Wheeljack for a little while until they can get away from ground zero.
Wheeljack is not part of Team Prime, but why the hell would he team up with Airachnid?Ratchet: I don't think his problem with Optimus has enough torque on him to switch allegiances.
Right. So maybe he'll join up with Wheeljack.If Jazz, I hope for an Elite Guard vet,
Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard here.If Prowl, not a motorbike,
Curiosity: Will Predaking roam to search for the remaining Autobots, or will they congregate on Megatrons fortress in desire to reclaim Optimus Prime?
The Predacons are hunters. They're hunting the five Autobots that are out on the run.Fowler:The Human perspective: If he has decided it's time to call things an emergency, he may push for the military to set up a new M.E.C.H project.
What?
G1 Smoketreader wrote:A TF:Prime Jazz not being Elite guard in this joint continuity? I don't see a joint continuity, but you ppl still don't get it. Can you see FoC or WfC Starscream in Tf Prime? Why expect a WfC or FoC Jazz?
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:A TF:Prime Jazz not being Elite guard in this joint continuity? I don't see a joint continuity, but you ppl still don't get it. Can you see FoC or WfC Starscream in Tf Prime? Why expect a WfC or FoC Jazz?
We don't get it? You obviously don't get it. WFC Starscream is the same guy that TF Prime Starscream is. FoC Jazz would be the same guy as TF Prime Jazz. And this isn't our personal views; this is official.
Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard in any of the Aligned fiction. Therefore, he wouldn't suddenly be one after leaving Cybertron.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:
Suddenly? No, not suddenly if you're a good storyteller and not suddenly if there is a gap of aeons to work with.
Any which way, I'd like somebody to be an elite Guard vet in order to provide smokescreen with a mentor. Smokes' totally capable but his self opinion is idiotic.Jazz was a good candidate in my head since he has high fan factor and his presentation to viewers in the Bayverse was executed horrendously.
That's the same Starscream in personality as well? You're kidding?
Is Prime Soundwave officially the same bloke as WfC Soundwave as well? That's an honest question, I'm not being a smartarse.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Please don't clog this thread up with garbage. Either post a real picture of yourself, or tell Va'al how pretty he is.
MasterSoundBlaster wrote:Though I would really love to read "War of the Dinobots", anyone know if it's avaliable and if so where would be a good place to go and get it?"
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:MasterSoundBlaster wrote:Though I would really love to read "War of the Dinobots", anyone know if it's avaliable and if so where would be a good place to go and get it?"
Don't you mean "Rage of the Dinobots?" Because "War of the Dinobots" was a G1 comic & episode
Burn wrote:Please don't clog this thread up with garbage. Either post a real picture of yourself, or tell Va'al how pretty he is.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Beast Machines.Shadowman wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
Welcome to the world of Transformers fiction! Storytelling is pushed aside for a more obvious purpose. And it's never not been that way.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
G1 Smoketreader wrote:My point isn't that I can't accept the alignment and continuity, my point is that I don't see characters in Prime from the games.
I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
I see them getting applauded for contradicting their own installments' timeline cuz the don't have the talent to ignore the formula they chose long enough to go around a bump. Instead they ignore the bump and we are expected to beg for more.
Rescue bots is for our kids, not for us.
Anyway, two more thoughts on Airachnid-
*that if, for some reason she wants out and tries to get offworld rather than continue her stay on Earth in Prime, there is Wheeljacks' ship for her to gun for.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:@Sabr: What you're saying is obviously right: I should play the games and read the books. I live in Greece- I've bought the games twice for others because I could at the time and they couldn't,but each time was with the savings available for me to buy a PS3. I'm not in a hurry to buy the books because I know I will find them and buy them one day and read them in a more peaceful time. I'm looking forward to it but I have no plan to treat them as part of any timeline, just good books and a special treat for me.
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Machines.Shadowman wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
Welcome to the world of Transformers fiction! Storytelling is pushed aside for a more obvious purpose. And it's never not been that way.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Which is why I recommended walkthroughs on YouTube to those who don't have the games.Va'al wrote:Videogames and machines to play them on are expensive, and a luxury good that not everyone can afford.
They're far from perfect and very flawed, yes, but if one wants to get the best idea of what's written in the Binder, the books are the way to go.Va'al wrote:As for the books, don't bother. The style is awful, the story has bigger plotholes and continuity errors than what I've seen in most of the franchise, and the writing is awful. Yes, it's that bad. I have no idea how Irvine managed to write two of them, with that approach.
Next yearish, we guess.Va'al wrote:When's season 3 supposed to air?
Fixed that for ya.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Machines.Shadowman wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
Welcome to the world of Transformers fiction! Storytelling is pushed aside for a more obvious purpose. And it's never not been that way.
Yeah, but Beast Machines was extraordinary, so it doesn't count.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Which is why I recommended walkthroughs on YouTube to those who don't have the games.Va'al wrote:Videogames and machines to play them on are expensive, and a luxury good that not everyone can afford.They're far form perfect and very flawed, yes, but if one wants to get the best idea of what's written in the Binder, the books are the way to go.Va'al wrote:As for the books, don't bother. The style is awful, the story has bigger plotholes and continuity errors than what I've seen in most of the franchise, and the writing is awful. Yes, it's that bad. I have no idea how Irvine managed to write two of them, with that approach.Next yearish, we guess.Va'al wrote:When's season 3 supposed to air?Fixed that for ya.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Machines.Shadowman wrote:G1 Smoketreader wrote:I don't see storytellers weaving a tale about what happens next in the continuity for the sake of the existing continuity, I see people using a simple formula to tell a story that appears complicated for the sake of their pockets.
Welcome to the world of Transformers fiction! Storytelling is pushed aside for a more obvious purpose. And it's never not been that way.
Yeah, but Beast Machines was extraordinary, so it doesn't count.
Sabrblade wrote:Fixed that for ya.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, but Beast Machines was extraordinary, so it doesn't count.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Sabrblade wrote:Fixed that for ya.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, but Beast Machines was extraordinary, so it doesn't count.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:It hurts the pacing if you only get the story in 20 minute increments, and you have to wait a whole week for the next part.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
It was highbrow. Nothing wrong with a bit of classiness.njb902 wrote:Lol. I do agree with Shadowman though. Beast machines was just to ponderous, I'll take the wham bam thank ya ma'am transformers any day over that.
PrymeStriker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Fixed that for ya.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, but Beast Machines was extraordinary, so it doesn't count.
It kept me coming back every week when I was a kid, and I like Silverbolt's dramatic shock of character evolution. Keeping him the same would have felt a bit static for his growth. Sure, there was plenty of room for improvement, but what we got was cool to me.Shadowman wrote:While it did get into philosophical themes regarding Transforming and the balance between beast and machine, the problem was that it had to crap all over Beast Wars to do it. To say nothing of how poorly they handled the characters (Scott McNeil is still mad about how Silverbolt was dealt with) but it's a series in which its serialized storyline works against it. It hurts the pacing if you only get the story in 20 minute increments, and you have to wait a whole week for the next part.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It kept me coming back every week when I was a kid, and I like Silverbolt's dramatic shock of character evolution. Keeping him the same would have felt a bit static for his growth. Sure, there was plenty of room for improvement, but what we got was cool to me.Shadowman wrote:While it did get into philosophical themes regarding Transforming and the balance between beast and machine, the problem was that it had to crap all over Beast Wars to do it. To say nothing of how poorly they handled the characters (Scott McNeil is still mad about how Silverbolt was dealt with) but it's a series in which its serialized storyline works against it. It hurts the pacing if you only get the story in 20 minute increments, and you have to wait a whole week for the next part.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
I know this. but I liked that the parody white knight had his eyes opened to the realities of war and villainy, experiencing first hand (and frighteningly enjoying) the sadistic nature of that which he despised. Being Jetstorm changed him for the worse, and it was interesting seeing him try to make amends for his past sins while being eaten up inside by guilt. He was put in a tight position and had to overcome his inner demons, which I felt was an interesting take on the character.Shadowman wrote:Silverbolt, in Beast Wars, was the archetype of the white knight, almost to the point of parody, and that's what made him fun, that's what made him such a great character. Then they changed him into this mopey, whiny character, almost a parody of the black knight, but they never went over-the-top with it, they played it straight, and that's what ruined it. he was no longer fun, just emo.
I'm mixed on him. On one hand, he was made more cowardly, less sarcastic, not as fun, and got a lousy robot design. On the other hand, his lack of weaponry gave him an opportunity to explore a new career path that he otherwise wouldn't have willingly taken due to it being outside his comfort zone. By removing his weapons, he had think less with his guns and more with his head, becoming the team's tech expert and seemingly following in the footsteps of his best friend Rhinox. In a way, Rattrap grew to carry on Rhinox's legacy whether he knew this or not, and I think that's cool.Shadowman wrote:Also Rattrap.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:On one hand, he was made more cowardly, less sarcastic, not as fun, and got an epic robot design.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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