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[JoeMabbon]

Someone on the staff at tfw2005 claims that Akiva Goldsman revealed in an interview that the next cartoon will come from the writer's room and be a Cybertron-based prequel to the live-action films set for a 2017/2018 release. Now the interview was removed and then edited with that part taken out. So, either Goldsman told us something he shouldn't have, misspoke and was actually talking about the prequel movie, or the tfw2005 journalist is wrong.

[o.supreme]

You know, guys, if season 2 really were to be the final season, wouldn't we at least be hearing some kind of rumors for the next cartoon to come after RID? Or would the fifth movie be what's next instead?

I seriously doubt that. News broke that TF Prime’s 3rd season would be its final was made known in fall 2012. News of the next TF animated series did not break until the Hasbro investors meeting in the fall of 2013 (which they initially had on their calendar for fall 2014, just as a placeholder with no name or details), but the first details weren’t released until summer 2014, and wasn’t actually aired until spring 2015.

I’m thinking Season 2 (whether the reported 19 episodes, or by some miracle 26) will follow the pattern similar to last year airing between March-September 2016. Although this is CN we are talking about, and they may pull the plug after only a few episodes, and put it on late nights or some insane thing (anyone who was a fan of Beware the Batman known what I’m talking about). I still have zero faith in CN, which is why I watched all of RiD15 S1 online (from those that uploaded the Australian iTunes releases months ahead of CN airdates). They have shown to be inept to the Nth degree in scheduling, and have killed so many great action cartoons in the last 4 years. Until CN shows me a changing trend, and full support of a well written action/sci-fi based cartoon that is not driven by toy sales, I will continue to have no faith in them.

Someone on the staff at tfw2005 claims that Akiva Goldsman revealed in an interview that the next cartoon will come from the writer's room and be a Cybertron-based prequel to the live-action films set for a 2017/2018 release. Now the interview was removed and then edited with that part taken out. So, either Goldsman told us something he shouldn't have, misspoke and was actually talking about the prequel movie, or the tfw2005 journalist is wrong.

I *believe* the Bayverse prequel was referenced to be an animated film as opposed to a full on series. But I may be wrong.

In any event, if Hasbro follows its pattern of recent years, RiD will have its 2nd season be its end. 2017 will focus all on the TF5 film, and TF5 toys (and possibly a continuation of generations whatever would be post Titan Wars), then the next animated series would be in development for 2018.

Again that is *if* Habro follows its Mantra of wanting Transformers to be an always evolving toy brand. I for one hope this doesn’t happen. I may not be a marketing expert, but from my childhood, to this day, what I really liked was consistency. Although I probably watched 20+ shows based on toy lines, I only collected 2 brands of toys (MOTU & Transformers), both toy lines had a 7-8 year run. The MOTU show lasted 2 seasons and made 130 episodes, but re-runs ran in syndication and on cable for almost 10 years. Transformers, as we all know had 98 episodes and one feature film over 4 seasons, but again re-runs continued to air in syndication and on cable for nearly a decade.

Now RiD15 is far from my favorite of the many incarnations of Transformers but… I would love to see it, or any future series go some distance (I’m talking 5 years or more, and 100+ episodes). The idea that the target audience has become *bored* after two years, and the need to keep reintroducing it seems ludicrous to me.

Now I know at least one of you is probably going to mention Rescue Bots, which is interesting. If its 4th season gets 26 episodes, it will have the unique distinction of becoming the new title holder of longest running TF series, beating out The Original by 6 episodes. So… why is it Hasbro feels the need to rebrand its primary line every 2-3 years, yet keep its small child line still going? Surely the kids that watched when they were 4, are now probably 8 and have moved on to RiD, or to other non-transformers related things. Again I wish I could have someone from Hasbro's marketing team explain it to me, but those folks are pretty much inaccessible, and probably for good reason.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

You know, D-Maximus_Prime, I would love to see Team Prime return in Season 2 as well. But I'm hoping to see Steeljaw sometime release all the Decepticons from the scrapyard prison so that he will form his own army to get revenge on the Autobots to prove just how tyrannical he really is.

But can we really say Steeljaw is tyrannical? I mean, he more appears to be a revolutionary who wants a place to live, not really destroy, rebuild, conquer, crush like Megs wanted to do to Earth. Steeljaw just seems to want to live free of persecution

[psj333]

Well, D-Maximus_Prime, in issue 5 of the comics, he surprisingly kidnapped Fixit and threatened to kill him if the Autobot don't comply by releasing of the Decepticons. We'll soon find out when issue 6 arrive. But for now, to prove whether or not Steeljaw is tyrannical, you have to look it like this. His goal is to gather as many Decepticons as he can possibly could so that he can create unstoppable army so that he can take over Megatron's place. If anyone gets in his way, he'll go right through them! Don't forget, he already recruited 3 Vehicons on his side to start with, which lead us to believe that in season 2, they would appear and release all the Decepticons at that moment, before he finally gets what he wanted. The only question is: Do you think is that simple? Don't forget in this series, Bumblebee is not a soldier but a cop. And cops won't be intimidated by anybody, not even Steeljaw. It's like, "No matter what you say or what you do, we will not back down!" Is that to say that Bumblebee is a lot like Rodimus Prime, that is proud and arrogant? You decide.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Well, D-Maximus_Prime, in issue 5 of the comics, he surprisingly kidnapped Fixit and threatened to kill him if the Autobot don't comply by releasing of the Decepticons. We'll soon find out when issue 6 arrive. But for now, to prove whether or not Steeljaw is tyrannical, you have to look it like this. His goal is to gather as many Decepticons as he can possibly could so that he can create unstoppable army so that he can take over Megatron's place. If anyone gets in his way, he'll go right through them! Don't forget, he already recruited 3 Vehicons on his side to start with, which lead us to believe that in season 2, they would appear and release all the Decepticons at that moment, before he finally gets what he wanted. The only question is: Do you think is that simple? Don't forget in this series, Bumblebee is not a soldier but a cop. And cops won't be intimidated by anybody, not even Steeljaw. It's like, "No matter what you say or what you do, we will not back down!" Is that to say that Bumblebee is a lot like Rodimus Prime, that is proud and arrogant? You decide.

He has kidnapped bots before, in the actual cartoon series. But he uses them as means to an end. He even stated to Megatronus that he just wanted a place for cons to live in peace. And as the person who won that freedom, he would rule. He really isn't being tyrannical. And he wants as many cons as possible cause he is making a home for them. He wants them to be free.

And Bee is a cop, but he was a soldier first, and he is mixing the 2 to find and stop these cons. He is not arrogant either, and he is trying to finish his mission. And given his history, he would not back down from anyone.

Also: steeljaw has tricked the vehicons, not recruited them. And the comics are only based on the cartoon, they are not making continuity for the cartoon. We've discussed this before. so while this is the comics picking up after season 2, the cartoon as yet to do so in a different way.

Steeljaw has come across as a revolutionary who wants a home. To me for him to be tyrannical, he should've killed some people by now, he should be trying to get back to cybertron but he doesnt want to! He just wants a new home free of cybertron and the bots. He is no where near what Megatron was

[JoeMabbon]

To be considered a tyrant, you usually have to have control over a significant number of people. That said, I think Steeljaw outright said that he planned for Decepticons to rule the planet, rather than coexist with humanity at the end of the hostage episode. He's no Megatron. Megatron had power and resources at his disposal.

[Sabrblade]

Steeljaw wants to take over the world to make it a Decepticon planet (which he also wants to rule over, but making the world a Decepticon safe haven seems to be his first priority).

[Shuttershock]

To be considered a tyrant, you usually have to have control over a significant number of people. That said, I think Steeljaw outright said that he planned for Decepticons to rule the planet, rather than coexist with humanity at the end of the hostage episode. He's no Megatron. Megatron had power and resources at his disposal.

Indeed. You need to BE in charge before you start abusing your people and position.

[psj333]

D-Maximus_Prime, well, he might have in the beginning. But this is earth not Cybertron. Steeljaw has not killed his victims on Earth just yet, because if the show were to take place on Cybertron, then it would be revealed that he already done so back then. And here's the thing. If he were to deceived the Vehicons rather than recruiting them, he would have killed them in the first place rather than telling them to kidnap Fixit. Because no one can keep the Autobot prison safe. Only Fixit can do that.


And also, for those who think that only new characters will be introduced in season 2, you have to look at it like this:

Every show and every game no matter what, must introduce new characters and allowing the previous characters to return. That is how the show is setup. It's not like they going to allow only new characters in the show and leave all the previous characters out. That's not the way it works. So, I believe that there is chance that existing Decepticons will return for season 2, especially those who have not show there alt-mode yet. For example, Filch is a crow that can transform into a human, but her face was not shown. Other Decepticons, like Malador, whose alt-mode is mostly likely a muscle car, due to how his robot mode is designed, Nightstrike, and Pseudo, have still yet to show their true alt-modes. So from my perspective, I do believe that if they choose to return for season 2, perhaps we can get a better idea of what their alt-modes will be like to further the storyline. There is no way that these existing characters will be neglected and locked up for life. Steeljaw will definitely release them, but the time is still unknown.

[Va'al]

Have a smaller robot fan in your life, or are interested in all Trasformers fiction tying in to the Robots in Disguise animated series? Barnes and Nobles shows a listing for a Little, Brown Young Reader book taking place during Optimus Prime's training in the Realm of the Primes, written by John Sazaklis and due out next week - find out more below, and head here to check it out, along with the rest of the series!

Overview

On Earth, Bumblebee and his team of Autobots—Sideswipe, Strongarm, Grimlock, and Fixit—battle some of Cybertron's most dangerous Decepticons. In the Realm of the Primes, Optimus is training for an important mission. Little do the two friends know, they are both being tested by Liege Maximo, who will stop at nothing to make sure Optimus and Bumblebee destroy each other. Will they be able to defeat their sinister opponent, or will this be the end of the Autobots?

The fourth chapter book in an exciting original series! Each book is an original story based on the hit series. Also, includes 2 amazing trading cards!

© 2016 Hasbro. All Rights Reserved.

[Madeus Prime]

Little do the two friends know, they are both being tested by Liege Maximo, who will stop at nothing to make sure Optimus and Bumblebee destroy each other.

Hm. I'd hope this isn't an insertion to make the book's plot more interesting. It would be a good plot twist to have Liege in there, especially if this whole thing is one big master plan.

[psj333]

You know, Va'al? You might already know that. But you don't know this:

Happy New Year! - It's 2016! (for those who live in Australia and New Zealand) - Here's what you can expect in 2016 that's TF Related:

2nd and Final Season of Transformers: Robots In Disguise
This year also marks the final season for Transformers Robots In Disguise - It comes from earlier on in 2015 that Hasbro has decided to cut short the Show's episodes resulting in the complete loss of Season 3 and the loss of Half of Season 2 - Regardless of that - We can confirm that it's believed the main villain for Season 2 will be "Liege Maximo" - Another "Evil" Prime who has the intentions of turning Bumblebee and Optimus Prime against each other - It's also been heavily rumoured that Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Arcee and Jazz will feature heavily in Season 2 - Along with the slim possibility (Take it as a grain of salt) of Megatron, Shockwave and Starscream also possibly returning - As far as we know Megatronus Prime has no more appearances in the series (As far as we know) - We can also confirm there's going to be a lot more Minicons in Season 2 and they'll factor heavily into what will eventually happen - Season 2 is expected to premiere sometime in February this year

And that's all we have so far - Stay Tuned for more Info!
(Reminder that the Chinese Dubbed Version of TFRID15 also debuted on December 31st 2014 - Keep in mind there's a 50/50 chance that may very well happen again as Season 2 approaches - I shall keep you posted as the updates and news come in) - For the meantime - Please enjoy the 2016 celebrations - I wish you the best for a happy and Logical 2016.

This was recently posted by Shockwave from Facebook. If you don't believe me, have a look at this by clicking here:

http://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW

[Madeus Prime]

You know, Va'al? You might already know that. But you don't know this:

I don't know if that's an official outlet psj, just sayin'. And it really does state pretty much everything we already knew about season 2, this book just completed the last piece of the puzzle.

Also, without trying to sound like a mod, you should probably submit stuff like that via Seibertron's new submission system

[Sabrblade]

This was recently posted by Shockwave from Facebook. If you don't believe me, have a look at this by clicking here:

http://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW

You mean it was posted by some fan who made their own Shockwave Facebook page for fun. That isn't an official source associated with Hasbro in any way.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I find it funny that post was made up following that Optimus book involving the Liege. I really wouldn't take much stock in it.

and while Steeljaw definitely has the capacity to be a tyrant, I cannot really say he is one until he actually does make some progress here. He lost his army, and he really hasn't done a lot for himself. Hasn't gained any ground and if anything his army still hasn't exceeded single digits. As a final note: if Season 2 is supposed to truly be the final season with 19 episodes, I don't really see how they could make a huge prison break. 19 or so episodes for that seems a bit excessive.

Also: Interesting that facebook blurb uses Prowl instead of Smokescreen, no Wheeljack, and wasn't there an interview or something posted a while back about how Shockwave was supposed to die and Starscream was dead?

[psj333]

Sure, D-Maxmius_Prime. Steeljaw might have lost his army, however he will most likely recreate it in Season 2, should there is enough episodes. Also, will there be more Shifters introduced to in Season besides Pseudo? There's got to be more than one. Since Shifters look like other Cybertronians, are they all made of liquid metal like T-1000, or there are many different types of Shifters?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Psj, I have no doubt steeljaw will recreate his pack, I just doubt a full blown all cons out of the cage break. Maybe some new, maybe some are sprung. As for shifters, no one knows. We know practically zilch about season 2 other than it exists. We just have to wait. Cartoon network did it no favors with the time slot either

[psj333]

Sure, no one knows for sure, D-Maximus_Prime. But you have to realize that in order for show to be successful both new and old characters must appear in the following season. It's not like only new characters introduced and old characters left out and locked up for good. That's not the way it works. Filch is yet to show her human form. Malador, Nightstrike, and Pseudo are still yet to show their true alt-modes should they are successfully freed or escaped. If they truly do re-reappear in Season 2, perhaps their alt-modes will further the storyline even further. Steeljaw will eventually free those guys, since he will never quit. The question still remain is: when?

[Madeus Prime]

But you have to realize that in order for show to be successful both new and old characters must appear in the following season.

It doesn't have to be successful, it's the last season, all they are doing is wrapping up some plot threads and selling a few more toys/repaints.

It's not like only new characters introduced and old characters left out and locked up for good. That's not the way it works.

Well, yeah, it kinda does. That's pretty much every episode of Power Rangers, monster of the week shows up, get's beaten/captured and we never ever see it again. Chances are, despite your continued insistence, that probably few to none of the Decepticons caught in Season 1 will show up again. Might they show up in a big prison break or final battle? Yeah, maybe. But they won't talk or do anything but grunt and fight, it's too expensive to hire back all of voice actors.

Filch is yet to show her human form. Malador, Nightstrike, and Pseudo are still yet to show their true alt-modes should they are successfully freed or escaped.

I'm sorry, but I gotta ask, what is it with you and character's alternate modes?? It doesn't make or break a character if we don't see what they turn into!

If they truly do re-reappear in Season 2, perhaps their alt-modes will further the storyline even further.

Alternate modes don't do anything for storylines. Literally, they don't do anything to affect the plot.

Steeljaw will eventually free those guys, since he will never quit. The question still remain is: when?

And we won't know anything until the season comes out psj, we do not have the answers for ya'.

[Sabrblade]

it's the last season,

[citation needed]

[psj333]

[quote=Madeus_Prime]Well, yeah, it kinda does. That's pretty much every episode of Power Rangers, monster of the week shows up, get's beaten/captured and we never ever see it again. Chances are, despite your continued insistence, that probably few to none of the Decepticons caught in Season 1 will show up again. Might they show up in a big prison break or final battle? Yeah, maybe. But they won't talk or do anything but grunt and fight, it's too expensive to hire back all of voice actors.[/quote]

Why, sure. I would definitely love to see these Cons have a big prison break and engage in a huge battle between Autobot and Decepticon forces in Season 2. That would be great! Turn off the cops-and-robbers storyline and bring the war on. Then, have these criminals re-arrested and put them in prison again. Don`t get me wrong. I do love this show very much until now. I just feel that this entire cops-and-robbers storyline needs to stop for a while.

[psj333]

Well, yeah, it kinda does. That's pretty much every episode of Power Rangers, monster of the week shows up, get's beaten/captured and we never ever see it again. Chances are, despite your continued insistence, that probably few to none of the Decepticons caught in Season 1 will show up again. Might they show up in a big prison break or final battle? Yeah, maybe. But they won't talk or do anything but grunt and fight, it's too expensive to hire back all of voice actors.

Why, sure. I would definitely love to see these Cons have a big prison break and engage in a huge battle between Autobot and Decepticon forces in Season 2. That would be great! Turn off the cops-and-robbers storyline and bring the war on. Then, have these criminals re-arrested and put them in prison again. Don`t get me wrong. I do love this show very much until now. I just feel that this entire cops-and-robbers storyline needs to stop for a while.

[Madeus Prime]

it's the last season,

[citation needed]

A while back that Hasbro had confirmed RID would only have this season and then call it quits.

Why, sure. I would definitely love to see these Cons have a big prison break and engage in a huge battle between Autobot and Decepticon forces in Season 2. That would be great! Turn off the cops-and-robbers storyline and bring the war on. Then, have these criminals re-arrested and put them in prison again. Don`t get me wrong. I do love this show very much until now. I just feel that this entire cops-and-robbers storyline needs to stop for a while.

Finally we can agree on something. My only comment is that it's unlikely we're going to see any sort of reappearance or development of the Decepticons that have been captured before such time, short of maybe some that are popular or have a definite personality that would bring value to bringing them back (Springload, Vertebreak, ect.).

[psj333]

Finally we can agree on something. My only comment is that it's unlikely we're going to see any sort of reappearance or development of the Decepticons that have been captured before such time, short of maybe some that are popular or have a definite personality that would bring value to bringing them back (Springload, Vertebreak, ect.).

That may be true. But in case that you have missed it, Springload and Quillfire did re-appeared in Season 1. So, I'm pretty sure that should they re-appeared in Season 1, then perhaps that Vertebreak and many others will do the same thing as well for Season 2. But until then, we'll see about that when Season 2 hits this February or perhaps even earlier.

[Madeus Prime]

That may be true. But in case that you have missed it, Springload and Quillfire did re-appeared in Season 1. So, I'm pretty sure that should they re-appeared in Season 1, then perhaps that Vertebreak and many others will do the same thing as well for Season 2. But until then, we'll see about that when Season 2 hits this February or perhaps even earlier.

No, I know Quillfire and Springload showed up previously, I just was using them as examples for their somewhat entertaining personalities, more so with Vertebreak, but I love psychotic 'Cons. I've watched the show, same as you, maybe with a tad less enthusiasm, I was clapping for Megatronus at the end...