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Dr Va'al wrote:

Pot Bot wrote:List is great.

I stopped following Transformers Closely when my kids started arrivng, so am literally just getting back into it.

Trying to go through this and make a list of which graphic novels are needed as it will be far easier to track them down compared to the individual issues.

My question is are all of these available in novel form (up to the latest novel release) or is there some ill have to track down as individual issues?

Not sure what you mean by novel - but as for collected trade paperbacks, everything up to volumes 8 of MTMTE/TF. The only things not included so far are the Punishment and Redemption one-shots. Hope that helps!

By novel i meant the Graphic novels (collections)

I did notice they have the idw Collections Vol 1-8 and then Idw Collection Phase 2 volume 1-3. Will this have everything in? (barring the one shots)

Heres an example of volume 1 if you didnt understand what i weas after.

Pot Bot wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

Pot Bot wrote:List is great.

I stopped following Transformers Closely when my kids started arrivng, so am literally just getting back into it.

Trying to go through this and make a list of which graphic novels are needed as it will be far easier to track them down compared to the individual issues.

My question is are all of these available in novel form (up to the latest novel release) or is there some ill have to track down as individual issues?

Not sure what you mean by novel - but as for collected trade paperbacks, everything up to volumes 8 of MTMTE/TF. The only things not included so far are the Punishment and Redemption one-shots. Hope that helps!

By novel i meant the Graphic novels (collections)

I did notice they have the idw Collections Vol 1-8 and then Idw Collection Phase 2 volume 1-3. Will this have everything in? (barring the one shots)

Heres an example of volume 1 if you didnt understand what i weas after.

Ah, graphic novel is a deceptive term (and has no value, comics speaking - but that's semantics). The IDW Collection will indeed, eventually, include everything; the latest book, volume 3 of Phase Two, includes the following:

The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye Annual 2012 and #9–13
The Transformers: Robots in Disguise Annual 2012 and #10–11
"The Transformers Spotlight: Thundercracker"
"The Transformers Spotlight: Bumblebee"
"The Transformers Spotlight: Megatron"
"Signal to Noise"

Which, in regular trade collections, are in volumes:

MTMTE volumes 3 and 4 (Signal to noise prose story in the latter)
RID/The Transformers volumes 2 and 3
Dark Prelude (Spotlights)

I apolagise, i always call them graphic novels.

I do have some collections including

Megatron Origins
Infiltration
Escalation
Devastation
Drift
Spotlight Vol 2
maximum Dinobots
Last Stand of the Wreckers
RiD Vol 1 + 2
MTMTE Volume 1 + 2

and quite a few single issue spotlights. I jut got a bit confused on the list at the 3 years later points as i couldnt seem to track down these in collections

50. Autobot File: Rotorstorm p. 130
51. Autobot File: Pyro p. 131
52. Autobot File: Guzzle p. 132
53. Autobot File: Ironfist p. 133
54. Autobot File: Impactor p. 134
55. Decepticon File: Snare p. 135
56. Decepticon File: Overlord p. 136
57. Squadron X p. 161
58. BULLETS/OUT OF BULLETS

didnt even look for the ones that followed

Pot Bot wrote:I apolagise, i always call them graphic novels.

I do have some collections including

Megatron Origins
Infiltration
Escalation
Devastation
Drift
Spotlight Vol 2
maximum Dinobots
Last Stand of the Wreckers
RiD Vol 1 + 2
MTMTE Volume 1 + 2

and quite a few single issue spotlights.

You're on a good start already then! There are a few Spotlight volumes you're missing, plus the really quite good Stormbringer. Then you have All Hail Megatron, the whole Costa run, before you get to MTMTE and RID. The ones really worth picking up from that are Chaos Theory (vol 5) and, potentially, Chaos (vol 7).

I jut got a bit confused on the list at the 3 years later points as i couldnt seem to track down these in collections

50. Autobot File: Rotorstorm p. 130
51. Autobot File: Pyro p. 131
52. Autobot File: Guzzle p. 132
53. Autobot File: Ironfist p. 133
54. Autobot File: Impactor p. 134
55. Decepticon File: Snare p. 135
56. Decepticon File: Overlord p. 136
57. Squadron X p. 161
58. BULLETS/OUT OF BULLETS

didnt even look for the ones that followed

Those can all be found in the Last Stand of the Wreckers collected hardcover!

Dr Va'al wrote:

I jut got a bit confused on the list at the 3 years later points as i couldnt seem to track down these in collections

50. Autobot File: Rotorstorm p. 130
51. Autobot File: Pyro p. 131
52. Autobot File: Guzzle p. 132
53. Autobot File: Ironfist p. 133
54. Autobot File: Impactor p. 134
55. Decepticon File: Snare p. 135
56. Decepticon File: Overlord p. 136
57. Squadron X p. 161
58. BULLETS/OUT OF BULLETS

didnt even look for the ones that followed

Those can all be found in the Last Stand of the Wreckers collected hardcover!

The 2012 one, that is, as there was a 2010 one that didn't have as many extras as the 2012 one.

volume is my favourite mtmte saga

Kurona wrote:

volume is my favourite mtmte saga

It's the really cool one.

Dr Va'al wrote:

Kurona wrote:

volume is my favourite mtmte saga

It's the really cool one.

It features the return of , how could it not be?

Updated first post with rejig and Revolution stuff!

Now that they're both wrapped up, I vote to move Dying of the Light to before All Hail Optimus. Maybe before TF 48 or 49 as well? Big maybe on the latter, would have to dog for details I don't have time to dig for right now.

I still think the Titans Return one shot should be the overall issue #300. (placing it after TAAO #2 but before TAAO #3), but for some reason since TAAO is being left out of Titans Return, which makes no sense...it is technically considered issue *#302* . having different series is nice, but when you read them monthly and expect the events of one series over a 4-5 month period to occur months before the other, when you are reading them at the same time...makes it a little confusing.

ScottyP wrote:Now that they're both wrapped up, I vote to move Dying of the Light to before All Hail Optimus. Maybe before TF 48 or 49 as well? Big maybe on the latter, would have to dog for details I don't have time to dig for right now.

If you're referring to the 'six hours/three weeks' thing, I may see what you're saying. Is that what you mean?

If the message sent to everyone in Transformerspace is indeed from three weeks prior to them receiving it, then yes, DOTL does take place before AHO. Hm.

Dr Va'al wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Now that they're both wrapped up, I vote to move Dying of the Light to before All Hail Optimus. Maybe before TF 48 or 49 as well? Big maybe on the latter, would have to dog for details I don't have time to dig for right now.

If you're referring to the 'six hours/three weeks' thing, I may see what you're saying. Is that what you mean?

If the message sent to everyone in Transformerspace is indeed from three weeks prior to them receiving it, then yes, DOTL does take place before AHO. Hm.

Super late reply but yes, something like that. And it's probably in the right spot now, I'm not sure what I was thinking earlier with TF issues from the earlier arc.

So, IDW's Revolution checklist seems to be just that and not really a reading order. Due to that, I made an attempt at a Revolution chronology in the FAQ, but figured I would post it here if we wanted to attempt to beat it up together. The top part of the list isn't really essential by any means, but just in case this gets seen by someone unaware, maybe it'll be helpful.

Background Research - All books included here based on nothing but my own opinions.

1. Spotlight: Shockwave
2. Transformers: Infiltration
3. Maximum Dinobots
4. The Transformers #29 (based on its inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special)
5. Combiner Hunters one-shot (based on its inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special)
6. G.I. Joe (2014/5) #0 and #1 (based on their inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special, but very optional as these were not conceived as part of this universe at that time.)
7. Sins of the Wreckers (You know what? You don't need to read this just for Revolution, but you should anyway, so I'm keeping it here. It really doesn't impact this crossover at all though.)
8. The Transformers Volumes 8 and 9 (Issues 42-49)

The Road to Revolution

1. More Than Meets The Eye #7, #8, #45, and #46 (These are the "Scavengers" issues.)
2. More Than Meets The Eye #50 - #55, "Dying of the Light". Purely optional, as best as anyone knows right now, but it is exceptionally good work and provides context on where certain conspicuously absent characters are during Revolution.
3. The Transformers #50 - #55, "All Hail Optimus". Chronologically occurs six months before Revolution
4. Till All Are One 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution, has so far had very little to do with it - that we know of.)
5. Micronauts 1-6 (can be read any time before Revolution)
6. Action Man 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution)
7. ROM 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution, ROM 4 is unpublished as of this writing)
8. Unknown placement relative to Revolution, aside from "Sometime beforehand":Titans Return event, consisting of these five comics:
   
   1. Titans Return
   2. The Transformers #56
   3. The Transformers #57
   4. More Than Meets The Eye #56
   5. More Than Meets The Eye #57
9. Revolution Prelude - initially left this out, but it's printed at the end of many of the books above, so you wouldn't have missed it anyhow.

Revolution

1. M.A.S.K. Revolution
2. ROM Revolution
3. Revolution #1
4. Revolution #2
5. Micronauts: Revolution
6. Till All Are One: Revolution(Editor's Note: the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically.)
7. Revolution #3
8. G.I. Joe: Revolution
9. Transformers: Revolution
10. Action Man: Revolution
11. Revolution #4
12. Revolution #5
13. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution

Thank you st much for this!

ScottyP wrote:So, IDW's Revolution checklist seems to be just that and not really a reading order. Due to that, I made an attempt at a Revolution chronology in the FAQ, but figured I would post it here if we wanted to attempt to beat it up together. The top part of the list isn't really essential by any means, but just in case this gets seen by someone unaware, maybe it'll be helpful.

Background Research - All books included here based on nothing but my own opinions.

1. Spotlight: Shockwave
2. Transformers: Infiltration
3. Maximum Dinobots
4. The Transformers #29 (based on its inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special)
5. Combiner Hunters one-shot (based on its inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special)
6. G.I. Joe (2014/5) #0 and #1 (based on their inclusion in IDW's Road to Revolution special, but very optional as these were not conceived as part of this universe at that time.)
7. Sins of the Wreckers (this series' inclusion is speculative only, as it occurs on Earth. Well, that and Impactor's line of speech on the second to last page...)
8. The Transformers Volumes 8 and 9 (Issues 42-49)

The Road to Revolution

1. More Than Meets The Eye #7, #8, #45, and #46 (These are the "Scavengers" issues.)
2. More Than Meets The Eye #50 - #55, "Dying of the Light". Purely optional, as best as anyone knows right now, but it is exceptionally good work and provides context on where certain conspicuously absent characters are during Revolution.
3. The Transformers #50 - #55, "All Hail Optimus". Chronologically occurs six months before Revolution
4. Till All Are One 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution, has so far had very little to do with it - that we know of.)
5. Micronauts 1-6 (can be read any time before Revolution)
6. Action Man 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution)
7. ROM 1-4 (can be read any time before Revolution, ROM 4 is unpublished as of this writing)
8. Unknown placement relative to Revolution, aside from "Sometime beforehand":Titans Return event, consisting of these five comics:
   
   1. Titans Return
   2. The Transformers #56
   3. The Transformers #57
   4. More Than Meets The Eye #56
   5. More Than Meets The Eye #57
9. Revolution Prelude - initially left this out, but it's printed at the end of many of the books above, so you wouldn't have missed it anyhow.

Revolution

1. M.A.S.K. Revolution #1
2. ROM Revolution #1
3. Revolution #1
4. Revolution #2
5. Micronauts: Revolution
6. Till All Are One: Revolution #1 (Release date: November 2, 2016) (Editor's Note: the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically.)
7. Revolution #3
8. Action Man: Revolution #1
9. Transformers: Revolution #1
10. G.I. Joe: Revolution #1 (OctoberNovember 2016 release)
11. Revolution #4 (Release date: November 2, 2016)
12. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution #1 (November 2016 release)
13. Revolution #5 (November 2016 release)

I'd love to read your insight on why you put them in this order, when you have time.

So...after this um... "Event" is anyone here planning on reading Revolutionaries? I have supported financially pretty much every TF book from IDW up until now. I think I'm going to have to give this one a pass though. 3 books a month is good. But having one, with a few Random TF characters just to keep it "IN Universe", just seems like something not very interesting to me. Think I'm going to have to pass on this series. Hopefully it will be short lived.

I'd be reading it partly because I'm sure there'll be some important stuff in there I need to read for TF, Micronauts and Action Man... but also because I think this is where the idea could actually work. Rather than some event where they have to shove characters everywhere and try to make a big thing out of it and it's a big mess and yadda yadda yadda... since this seems to be a smaller, self-contained story just with a few franchises crossing over when and where it's appropriate rather than forcing them all in for the shared universe, it could work well. An event crossover the likes of Revolution is just fundamentally flawed; something more casual and easy-going like Revolutionaries has potential.

Nik Hero wrote:I'd love to read your insight on why you put them in this order, when you have time.

I haven't forgotten, but I do need to look up a couple of things. I might have a couple books out of place. Pulling them out tonight to settle in and re-read this event, even though I'm not super-pumped too ><

ScottyP wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:I'd love to read your insight on why you put them in this order, when you have time.

I haven't forgotten, but I do need to look up a couple of things. I might have a couple books out of place. Pulling them out tonight to settle in and re-read this event, even though I'm not super-pumped too ><

Thank you!

Ok, here's what I've settled with. Details of "why" follow in Spoiler tags, for now, since this is still pretty new. Nothing major spoiled, just being careful!

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler Free version!)

1. M.A.S.K. Revolution
2. ROM Revolution
3. Revolution #1
4. Revolution #2
5. Micronauts: Revolution
6. Till All Are One: Revolution(Editor's Note: the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically.)
7. Revolution #3
8. G.I. Joe: Revolution
9. Transformers: Revolution
10. Action Man: Revolution
11. Revolution #4
12. Revolution #5
13. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler version!)
[*]M.A.S.K. Revolution - takes place roughly one year before #1, plus gives time to digest a plethora of new characters that all appear throughout several books of the event.
[*]ROM Revolution - occurs immediately before #1
[*]Revolution #1 - I mean, it's #1, it's going to be early on the list.
[*]Revolution #2 - Occurs so immediately after #1 you won't notice it's a new issue in the trade.
[*]Micronauts: Revolution - Mostly stands alone so it could be read earlier, but is a good lead-in thematically to...
[*]Till All Are One: Revolution - Sure, the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically, and it has material that ties in with the Micronauts book.
[*]Revolution #3 - Gotta have ROM in the Autobot base, which is first seen in TAAO Rev.
[*]G.I. Joe: Revolution - The only space for anything else to breathe in a way that makes chronological sense is here. Of this and the two issues I have that follow, this comes first based on not only contextual clues but actual reference panels in TF: Rev and Action Man: Rev.
[*]Transformers: Revolution - See above - calls back to GI Joe Rev, and is called back to by...
[*]Action Man: Revolution - Kup is captured in 3, so this has to come after, but before the climax.
[*]Revolution #4 - Climax begins, characters start to come together.
[*]Revolution #5 - Occurs immediately after 4, similar to how 1 and 2 run together neatly.
[*]More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution - A nice breather, good fun, and I guess a palette cleanser. Yes, this issue is a nice sorbet Really though, it can be read anytime for any reason as it barely touches the Revolution event, and even then it is indirect.

Hope that helps! I can already say that Revolutionaries #1 will go before ROM 5, if you end up keeping up with the Space Knight. ROM 1-4 can go directly before ROM Rev.

Micronauts 1-6 can go anywhere before the event. 7 and 8 are hard to place other than "after Rev 5", for now. MASK 1 is also hard to place right now.

Action Man 1-4 are others that can be read anytime before Rev 1, but it does occur before.

Thanks so much! I'd love to see you try to fit Revolution: Oh Yeah! In here when cones out too.

ScottyP wrote:Ok, here's what I've settled with. Details of "why" follow in Spoiler tags, for now, since this is still pretty new. Nothing major spoiled, just being careful!

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler Free version!)

1. M.A.S.K. Revolution
2. ROM Revolution
3. Revolution #1
4. Revolution #2
5. Micronauts: Revolution
6. Till All Are One: Revolution(Editor's Note: the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically.)
7. Revolution #3
8. G.I. Joe: Revolution
9. Transformers: Revolution
10. Action Man: Revolution
11. Revolution #4
12. Revolution #5
13. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler version!)
[*]M.A.S.K. Revolution - takes place roughly one year before #1, plus gives time to digest a plethora of new characters that all appear throughout several books of the event.
[*]ROM Revolution - occurs immediately before #1
[*]Revolution #1 - I mean, it's #1, it's going to be early on the list.
[*]Revolution #2 - Occurs so immediately after #1 you won't notice it's a new issue in the trade.
[*]Micronauts: Revolution - Mostly stands alone so it could be read earlier, but is a good lead-in thematically to...
[*]Till All Are One: Revolution - Sure, the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically, and it has material that ties in with the Micronauts book.
[*]Revolution #3 - Gotta have ROM in the Autobot base, which is first seen in TAAO Rev.
[*]G.I. Joe: Revolution - The only space for anything else to breathe in a way that makes chronological sense is here. Of this and the two issues I have that follow, this comes first based on not only contextual clues but actual reference panels in TF: Rev and Action Man: Rev.
[*]Transformers: Revolution - See above - calls back to GI Joe Rev, and is called back to by...
[*]Action Man: Revolution - Kup is captured in 3, so this has to come after, but before the climax.
[*]Revolution #4 - Climax begins, characters start to come together.
[*]Revolution #5 - Occurs immediately after 4, similar to how 1 and 2 run together neatly.
[*]More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution - A nice breather, good fun, and I guess a palette cleanser. Yes, this issue is a nice sorbet Really though, it can be read anytime for any reason as it barely touches the Revolution event, and even then it is indirect.

Hope that helps! I can already say that Revolutionaries #1 will go before ROM 5, if you end up keeping up with the Space Knight. ROM 1-4 can go directly before ROM Rev.

Micronauts 1-6 can go anywhere before the event. 7 and 8 are hard to place other than "after Rev 5", for now. MASK 1 is also hard to place right now.

Action Man 1-4 are others that can be read anytime before Rev 1, but it does occur before.

ScottyP wrote:Ok, here's what I've settled with. Details of "why" follow in Spoiler tags, for now, since this is still pretty new. Nothing major spoiled, just being careful!

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler Free version!)

1. M.A.S.K. Revolution
2. ROM Revolution
3. Revolution #1
4. Revolution #2
5. Micronauts: Revolution
6. Till All Are One: Revolution(Editor's Note: the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically.)
7. Revolution #3
8. G.I. Joe: Revolution
9. Transformers: Revolution
10. Action Man: Revolution
11. Revolution #4
12. Revolution #5
13. More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution

Scotty P's Suggested Revolution Reading Order (Spoiler version!)
[*]M.A.S.K. Revolution - takes place roughly one year before #1, plus gives time to digest a plethora of new characters that all appear throughout several books of the event.
[*]ROM Revolution - occurs immediately before #1
[*]Revolution #1 - I mean, it's #1, it's going to be early on the list.
[*]Revolution #2 - Occurs so immediately after #1 you won't notice it's a new issue in the trade.
[*]Micronauts: Revolution - Mostly stands alone so it could be read earlier, but is a good lead-in thematically to...
[*]Till All Are One: Revolution - Sure, the opening pages occur before Revolution #1, but the bulk of this issue fits here chronologically, and it has material that ties in with the Micronauts book.
[*]Revolution #3 - Gotta have ROM in the Autobot base, which is first seen in TAAO Rev.
[*]G.I. Joe: Revolution - The only space for anything else to breathe in a way that makes chronological sense is here. Of this and the two issues I have that follow, this comes first based on not only contextual clues but actual reference panels in TF: Rev and Action Man: Rev.
[*]Transformers: Revolution - See above - calls back to GI Joe Rev, and is called back to by...
[*]Action Man: Revolution - Kup is captured in 3, so this has to come after, but before the climax.
[*]Revolution #4 - Climax begins, characters start to come together.
[*]Revolution #5 - Occurs immediately after 4, similar to how 1 and 2 run together neatly.
[*]More Than Meets The Eye: Revolution - A nice breather, good fun, and I guess a palette cleanser. Yes, this issue is a nice sorbet Really though, it can be read anytime for any reason as it barely touches the Revolution event, and even then it is indirect.

Hope that helps! I can already say that Revolutionaries #1 will go before ROM 5, if you end up keeping up with the Space Knight. ROM 1-4 can go directly before ROM Rev.

Micronauts 1-6 can go anywhere before the event. 7 and 8 are hard to place other than "after Rev 5", for now. MASK 1 is also hard to place right now.

Action Man 1-4 are others that can be read anytime before Rev 1, but it does occur before.

The Super Duper IDW Universe Continuity Guide Doc recently changed this order. Is that your doc? If not, do you agree with that, Scotty P?

It says now...
Micronauts: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Revolution Volume 1 #0
Rom: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Revolution Volume 1 #1
M.A.S.K.- Mobile Armored Strike Kommand: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Revolution Volume 1 #2
The Transformers: Till All Are One: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Revolution Volume 1 #3
G.I. Joe: Revolution Volume 1 #1
The Transformers: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Action Man: Revolution Volume 1 #1
The Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye: Revolution Volume 1 #1
Revolution Volume 1 #4
Revolution Volume 1 #5
Revolutionaries Volume 1 #1

Recently back into the world of Cybertron.

If i wanted to start with Combiner Wars what would be a good jumping on point for Graphic Novels?

I have found the Combiner Wars one but not sure what comes afterwards and directly before hand.

Thanks in advance

Kryztoff wrote:Recently back into the world of Cybertron.

If i wanted to start with Combiner Wars what would be a good jumping on point for Graphic Novels?

I have found the Combiner Wars one but not sure what comes afterwards and directly before hand.

Thanks in advance

Dark Cybertron, Dawn of the Autobots, & Days of Deception comes before Combiner Wars and after First Strike. After Combiner Wars is All Hail Optimus and Titan Wars.