Loki120 wrote:Psychout wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Highlander is the only film in history where the sequels are even worse than those in the Matrix series, without exception.
The original was gold, pure gold, and every sequel has tarnished it beyond repair.
Endgame was utter crap; who the hell ever told Wrestlers they could act? Mario Van Peebles is about the only thing worht watching in H3 and if Connery couldnt save the series, what hope did he have? And H2 is just unspeakable filth of a movie.
Id rather they just remade the TV series (without 'Richie' this time) that was way better.
Considering that the new movies are based on the tv series and the main character is Duncan and not Conner (Richie is dead) you should be a happy camper.
Don't agree with you on Endgame, however, I actually found it just to opposite. However, I'm also looking at it as a continuation of the series and not the original movie (though elements are incorporated), I can view it from that perpective and be quite happy.
I'll agree that both versions of Highlander 2 were total and utter crap. There was absolutely no way to save that movie, and Highlander 3 was...ughhhh, plot holes galore, but came a long way to trying to repair what happened with the previous film.
Autobot032 wrote:I don't know. As a standalone, Highlander 2: The Renegade Version* works as a entertaining sci-fi film. I will admit that when combined with the other films, it does tend to make your brain bleed.
Highlander II: The Quickening...now that film...no hope, no hope at all. (minus five points to me for using a TF:TM ('86) reference.)
Let me ask you this, if they stuck you in a room and you had to watch Highlander II, but they gave you a choice between the three versions (The Quickening, The Renegade Version, Digitally Remastered Director's Cut*) which one would you choose?
*=(and about the new digitally remastered Director's Cut, it looks nothing short of fantastic. If nothing else, the visuals alone are insane.)
Thenedain wrote:Autobot032 wrote:I don't know. As a standalone, Highlander 2: The Renegade Version* works as a entertaining sci-fi film. I will admit that when combined with the other films, it does tend to make your brain bleed.
Highlander II: The Quickening...now that film...no hope, no hope at all. (minus five points to me for using a TF:TM ('86) reference.)
Let me ask you this, if they stuck you in a room and you had to watch Highlander II, but they gave you a choice between the three versions (The Quickening, The Renegade Version, Digitally Remastered Director's Cut*) which one would you choose?
*=(and about the new digitally remastered Director's Cut, it looks nothing short of fantastic. If nothing else, the visuals alone are insane.)
I know, this is one of those things you're never supposed to admit to in public but....
I actually liked Highlander 2: The Quickening. 'course, I was like 15 or 16 when it was released, so I blame the folly of youth for my mental imbalance there.
Now, The Renegade version is a different beast altogether. I don't mind saying I liked that flick. It's wonky when put in with the rest of the movies, but then each movie after the first totally seemed to try to reinvent the whole blasted backstory. Poor Connor. Guy's got the Prize and all that, yet for some reason there's always ANOTHER random, lost Immortal coming out of some damned cave somewhere and fudging with him. In retrospect, the Highlander series probably should never have seen a sequel, but so long as we've got 'em, I suppose we should make the best of 'em, eh?
Oh... and Masters of the Universe rocks. I don't care if it's nothing like the cartoon, it still rocks. Skeletor gets the prize for being perhaps the coolest licensed bad guy ever brought to the screen, simply because he was so much better than his cartoon counterpart. He's got some of the best lines ever.
"Tell me about the loneliness of good. Is it equal to the loneliness of evil?"
"I am not in a giving vein this day."
That whole sequence before the Eye of the Galaxy where he gives his big monologue is just plain awesome. Frank Langella is my hero.
Autobot032 wrote:Let me ask you this, if they stuck you in a room and you had to watch Highlander II, but they gave you a choice between the three versions (The Quickening, The Renegade Version, Digitally Remastered Director's Cut*) which one would you choose?
Thenedain wrote:Oh... and Masters of the Universe rocks. I don't care if it's nothing like the cartoon, it still rocks. Skeletor gets the prize for being perhaps the coolest licensed bad guy ever brought to the screen, simply because he was so much better than his cartoon counterpart. He's got some of the best lines ever.
"Tell me about the loneliness of good. Is it equal to the loneliness of evil?"
"I am not in a giving vein this day."
That whole sequence before the Eye of the Galaxy where he gives his big monologue is just plain awesome. Frank Langella is my hero.
Autobot032 wrote:Oh and I love the MOTU movie. I have it on DVD as well. Cheesy as hell, and Tom Paris (before he was cool and running Voyager and all) is there, but hey...it's a classic of schlock!
Loki120 wrote:Well, that's that. Highlander: the Source is going directly to TV instead of the Box Office.
http://www.mania.com/55635.html
Highlander will appear on the Sci-Fi channel Sept 15. Kinda split on this, I would have liked to see it on the big screen, but I definately understand the reasons behind the move.
Original Sin wrote:Loki120 wrote:Well, that's that. Highlander: the Source is going directly to TV instead of the Box Office.
http://www.mania.com/55635.html
Highlander will appear on the Sci-Fi channel Sept 15. Kinda split on this, I would have liked to see it on the big screen, but I definately understand the reasons behind the move.
That leaves me kinda bummed
EdmundDante wrote:why in the TV? we all now how good Hihlander movie eh?..newbie in the house.
Autobot032 wrote:EdmundDante wrote:why in the TV? we all now how good Hihlander movie eh?..newbie in the house.
Zombie thread! Look out! Kill it! Kill it!
NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Wow talk about a blast from the past.
The Source was beyond awful in fact it actually moved all the other Highlander films up a notch.
Actually it makes Raven look good.
Last I heard the Paul franchise is dead. They intend to reboot everything with a brand new film.
No suprise Endgame was a mircle that it got to screen and performed terribly...while I loved the film it went through several edits, rewrites and delays before they dumped it in theaters in a spot that was essentially the toilet of release dates. Raven tanked on the small tube, and then The Source was sooooooo bad no distributor would touch it...even worse when audiences finally saw it, it became apparent just how bad it was, I mean it wasn't even critic bad...it made no sense and was just horrible to watch.
So maybe reboot is the way to go here.
NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Wow talk about a blast from the past.
The Source was beyond awful in fact it actually moved all the other Highlander films up a notch.
Actually it makes Raven look good.
Last I heard the Paul franchise is dead. They intend to reboot everything with a brand new film.
No suprise Endgame was a mircle that it got to screen and performed terribly...while I loved the film it went through several edits, rewrites and delays before they dumped it in theaters in a spot that was essentially the toilet of release dates. Raven tanked on the small tube, and then The Source was sooooooo bad no distributor would touch it...even worse when audiences finally saw it, it became apparent just how bad it was, I mean it wasn't even critic bad...it made no sense and was just horrible to watch.
So maybe reboot is the way to go here.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ralph Fines is set to play Connor. I think he could do a good job.
Autobot032 wrote:NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Wow talk about a blast from the past.
The Source was beyond awful in fact it actually moved all the other Highlander films up a notch.
Actually it makes Raven look good.
Last I heard the Paul franchise is dead. They intend to reboot everything with a brand new film.
No suprise Endgame was a mircle that it got to screen and performed terribly...while I loved the film it went through several edits, rewrites and delays before they dumped it in theaters in a spot that was essentially the toilet of release dates. Raven tanked on the small tube, and then The Source was sooooooo bad no distributor would touch it...even worse when audiences finally saw it, it became apparent just how bad it was, I mean it wasn't even critic bad...it made no sense and was just horrible to watch.
So maybe reboot is the way to go here.
Yeah, I think it's pretty much past due for a reboot. Connor's dead, Duncan's won the prize and found the source, Methos is...whatever at this point, the Watchers no longer matter anymore, the story line is dead.
A reboot would be a great idea.
Endgame had potential, and you could tell they put some money and effort into it. Better special effects, brought back most of the original film's cast, and the story had promise, but the finished product was a mess. Ever see the director's cut? It actually loops a scene in the final battle, uses it twice and it's apparent to the point that anyone watching would catch it. It's almost like the disc skips and then you realize it's the film itself.
Still, I found it to be an enjoyable experience.
The Final Dimension was a rehash of the first one, and while I thought Mario Van Peebles was a lot of fun, I just found it to be too much of a ripoff. Still watchable, but a ripoff.
The Renegade Version of II is a guilty pleasure, and nonsensical, but fun nonetheless. I can't even watch The Quickening. Egad it was awful.
The original...pretty hard to top (which none of the sequels did), and outside of a reboot, the current series can't hold a candle to it.
The Raven, I watched about 5 or 6 episodes and found it to be...boring. Kinda like Angel spinning off of Buffy, minus...well everything that made Angel work. The Raven was just piss poor.
Highlander The Series had some great moments, but I've seen better shows. Eureka and Warehouse 13 come to mind. I think having an immortal of the week was an idea that petered out rather quickly. Some stories were compelling, some were funny, but for the most part...bleh.
So, yeah, it's time for a reboot. I hope the keep the core characters and put them in new surroundings and new adventures, it just wouldn't be Highlander without MacLeod and Ramirez. I wouldn't mind seeing an updated Kurgan.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ralph Fines is set to play Connor. I think he could do a good job.
This is the second time you've mentioned this. I've not been able to find anything on this. Where are you getting this news??
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Wow talk about a blast from the past.
The Source was beyond awful in fact it actually moved all the other Highlander films up a notch.
Actually it makes Raven look good.
Last I heard the Paul franchise is dead. They intend to reboot everything with a brand new film.
No suprise Endgame was a mircle that it got to screen and performed terribly...while I loved the film it went through several edits, rewrites and delays before they dumped it in theaters in a spot that was essentially the toilet of release dates. Raven tanked on the small tube, and then The Source was sooooooo bad no distributor would touch it...even worse when audiences finally saw it, it became apparent just how bad it was, I mean it wasn't even critic bad...it made no sense and was just horrible to watch.
So maybe reboot is the way to go here.
Yeah, I think it's pretty much past due for a reboot. Connor's dead, Duncan's won the prize and found the source, Methos is...whatever at this point, the Watchers no longer matter anymore, the story line is dead.
A reboot would be a great idea.
Endgame had potential, and you could tell they put some money and effort into it. Better special effects, brought back most of the original film's cast, and the story had promise, but the finished product was a mess. Ever see the director's cut? It actually loops a scene in the final battle, uses it twice and it's apparent to the point that anyone watching would catch it. It's almost like the disc skips and then you realize it's the film itself.
Still, I found it to be an enjoyable experience.
The Final Dimension was a rehash of the first one, and while I thought Mario Van Peebles was a lot of fun, I just found it to be too much of a ripoff. Still watchable, but a ripoff.
The Renegade Version of II is a guilty pleasure, and nonsensical, but fun nonetheless. I can't even watch The Quickening. Egad it was awful.
The original...pretty hard to top (which none of the sequels did), and outside of a reboot, the current series can't hold a candle to it.
The Raven, I watched about 5 or 6 episodes and found it to be...boring. Kinda like Angel spinning off of Buffy, minus...well everything that made Angel work. The Raven was just piss poor.
Highlander The Series had some great moments, but I've seen better shows. Eureka and Warehouse 13 come to mind. I think having an immortal of the week was an idea that petered out rather quickly. Some stories were compelling, some were funny, but for the most part...bleh.
So, yeah, it's time for a reboot. I hope the keep the core characters and put them in new surroundings and new adventures, it just wouldn't be Highlander without MacLeod and Ramirez. I wouldn't mind seeing an updated Kurgan.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ralph Fines is set to play Connor. I think he could do a good job.
This is the second time you've mentioned this. I've not been able to find anything on this. Where are you getting this news??
Oh man where did I read this, it was awhile ago I think People or cinescape.com. I might have the name wrong, might be his brother Joseph.
Autobot032 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Wow talk about a blast from the past.
The Source was beyond awful in fact it actually moved all the other Highlander films up a notch.
Actually it makes Raven look good.
Last I heard the Paul franchise is dead. They intend to reboot everything with a brand new film.
No suprise Endgame was a mircle that it got to screen and performed terribly...while I loved the film it went through several edits, rewrites and delays before they dumped it in theaters in a spot that was essentially the toilet of release dates. Raven tanked on the small tube, and then The Source was sooooooo bad no distributor would touch it...even worse when audiences finally saw it, it became apparent just how bad it was, I mean it wasn't even critic bad...it made no sense and was just horrible to watch.
So maybe reboot is the way to go here.
Yeah, I think it's pretty much past due for a reboot. Connor's dead, Duncan's won the prize and found the source, Methos is...whatever at this point, the Watchers no longer matter anymore, the story line is dead.
A reboot would be a great idea.
Endgame had potential, and you could tell they put some money and effort into it. Better special effects, brought back most of the original film's cast, and the story had promise, but the finished product was a mess. Ever see the director's cut? It actually loops a scene in the final battle, uses it twice and it's apparent to the point that anyone watching would catch it. It's almost like the disc skips and then you realize it's the film itself.
Still, I found it to be an enjoyable experience.
The Final Dimension was a rehash of the first one, and while I thought Mario Van Peebles was a lot of fun, I just found it to be too much of a ripoff. Still watchable, but a ripoff.
The Renegade Version of II is a guilty pleasure, and nonsensical, but fun nonetheless. I can't even watch The Quickening. Egad it was awful.
The original...pretty hard to top (which none of the sequels did), and outside of a reboot, the current series can't hold a candle to it.
The Raven, I watched about 5 or 6 episodes and found it to be...boring. Kinda like Angel spinning off of Buffy, minus...well everything that made Angel work. The Raven was just piss poor.
Highlander The Series had some great moments, but I've seen better shows. Eureka and Warehouse 13 come to mind. I think having an immortal of the week was an idea that petered out rather quickly. Some stories were compelling, some were funny, but for the most part...bleh.
So, yeah, it's time for a reboot. I hope the keep the core characters and put them in new surroundings and new adventures, it just wouldn't be Highlander without MacLeod and Ramirez. I wouldn't mind seeing an updated Kurgan.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ralph Fines is set to play Connor. I think he could do a good job.
This is the second time you've mentioned this. I've not been able to find anything on this. Where are you getting this news??
Oh man where did I read this, it was awhile ago I think People or cinescape.com. I might have the name wrong, might be his brother Joseph.
I could see Joseph doing it. Ralph is just a tad too old to pull it off.
vegetacron wrote:I just can't get into Adrian Paul as an actor. The original Duncan McLeod played by Christopher Lambert was the best imo. Once he left the franchise, it just kinda went downhill imo. But theres tons of people who love the Adrian Paul Duncan, and thats totally cool, i just got spoiled by the movies. lol
vegetacron wrote:I just can't get into Adrian Paul as an actor. The original Duncan McLeod played by Christopher Lambert was the best imo. Once he left the franchise, it just kinda went downhill imo. But theres tons of people who love the Adrian Paul Duncan, and thats totally cool, i just got spoiled by the movies. lol
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