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Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:24 pm
by dinogeist
[DECEASED] wrote:wait-wait-wait-wait-wait... WHAAAAAAAAAT?!


Oh, it's a KO of the toy. I jumped to conclusions Office Space style. I envisioned a new classics styled Fort Max.




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OMG,Imagine if it was a new mold fort max that had tons of poseability & was 2 feet tall. imagine a cerebros that was super poseable. or a spike that was poseabl;e. I suspose it would be kinda cool to see the 2 toes drones combining it poseable robot.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:15 pm
by GetRightRobot
Is nothing sacred? Is there nothing money grabbers won't pump out to weasel their peace of the pie? I swear to God if this is a direct Knock Off I'm going to be thoroughly disappointed. Fort Max was my Holy Grail, and I had to work my butt off and save up to get him (and he is awesome), yet I feel like this will somehow steal my accolade's thunder.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:38 pm
by Autobot032
That's over $300 usd! Pass.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:01 am
by dinogeist
GetRightRobot wrote:Is nothing sacred? Is there nothing money grabbers won't pump out to weasel their peace of the pie? I swear to God if this is a direct Knock Off I'm going to be thoroughly disappointed. Fort Max was my Holy Grail, and I had to work my butt off and save up to get him (and he is awesome), yet I feel like this will somehow steal my accolade's thunder.


Personally I'd rather as many TF fans get the chance to enjoy the same toy i'm enjoying.

I honestly don't care about reissues or KO's ruining the secondary market or fans toy collections they don't plan on selling.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:37 am
by AdamPrime
Wow. I would LOVE a 'reissue' of Fort Max. I have the Yuan conversion at about £240. If the quality is good, I'm sure to get one. I will wait and thoroughly read reviews, though. He's a big toy, and will need to take rough handling.

Again, only the quality of plastic can dissuade me from getting this.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:25 am
by iaconportland
I quite literally swallowed my tongue when I saw this. Holy Matrix Mother of Prime, I have been waiting for this since I gave my original Fortress Maximus to a neighbor child back in 1989 (don't ask me why...).

If this KO is as good as the KO Devastator from KOToys, I will be happy.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:30 am
by Flux Convoy
At around four hundred bones? For a KO? Granted, it's a large KO but I'm thinking, nah. I was drawing the line at $300 or less. For official product at this sort of pricing, I'd be hesitant but far more willing to part with the money. Guess I'll just continue to be satisfied with Brave Max until we get reissues from TakaraTomy.
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Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:33 am
by fenrir72
Quality KO makers, please, make it high quality. ( I already own one btw (the original that is) so this may be a mixed blessing for collectors. I for one would wish to be able to score another Cerebros gun and/or Cerebros' small black saber as a separate set.

Btw, I hope they don't sell it in the same G1 box so as to denote it as "not Fortress Maximus"...just to be fair.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:45 am
by RhA
GetRightRobot wrote:Is nothing sacred? Is there nothing money grabbers won't pump out to weasel their peace of the pie? I swear to God if this is a direct Knock Off I'm going to be thoroughly disappointed. Fort Max was my Holy Grail, and I had to work my butt off and save up to get him (and he is awesome), yet I feel like this will somehow steal my accolade's thunder.


I came here to say this. Scr*w KO's. Awful.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:03 am
by GetRightRobot
deathy wrote:
GetRightRobot wrote:Is nothing sacred? Is there nothing money grabbers won't pump out to weasel their peace of the pie? I swear to God if this is a direct Knock Off I'm going to be thoroughly disappointed. Fort Max was my Holy Grail, and I had to work my butt off and save up to get him (and he is awesome), yet I feel like this will somehow steal my accolade's thunder.


Personally I'd rather as many TF fans get the chance to enjoy the same toy i'm enjoying.

I honestly don't care about reissues or KO's ruining the secondary market or fans toy collections they don't plan on selling.



Neither of your statements have anything to do with what I said. I'm not sure your comments would not have stood better on their own. BUT, since you felt the need to quote me....

Do I want everyone to have a Fort Max? OF COURSE. Do I plan on selling my collection and therefore am upset about the potential value loss of a REAL Fortress Maximus? No. But know this: No sacrifice, no reward. :D

People drop a couple hundred bucks on a cheap knockoff, they will not appreciate their KO like appreciate my original.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:18 am
by Rated X
If I may inject my two cents into this. It's no secret I support KO's to the fullest. (no disrespect to aybody who doesnt) One issue I have is that the creation of e-bay has doubled and tripled the price of what many scarce collectibles in general are worth. An original Fort Max should have never reached a $700-900 value price. As with many e-bay listed items, you are not paying for what the figure is really worth. You are paying a comparison of what some collector that lives in the middle of nowhere is willing to pay out of desparation. In other words, if a few rich princes from the middle east decide to bid $2000 on Fort Max figures, then $2000 becomes the new value of Fort Max because they just drove up the price. Then the rest of the sellers raise their price based on speculation that they can make $2000 as well. So if you are a middle class income collector who worked your a** off to afford an original Fort Max at inflated rich collector prices, you got my respect. I commend you for finding your holy grail. However, I also feel you are a victim of an unfair system of price inflation. This is why I endorse KO's. They even the playing field. Especially the quality KO's from CHMS and Kold. They give anal e-bay sellers a reality check and encourage them to lower their prices to more respectable ones. The sellers who dont just continue to have their items collect dust on e-bay with the "buy it now" option. And those prices are not the real value in my opinion. They are just shark bait thrown in the water to catch a big fish. Some will bite, others wont. Im sure a few people will agree with me and some will disagree and trash talk my opinions. Go for it, I gotta roll out to work now.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:19 am
by DMSL
Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:23 am
by El Duque
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


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Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:46 am
by Treetop Maximus
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:51 am
by El Duque
Treetop Maximus wrote:
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.


They could easily release it Japan, which is where the release the Encore series anyway. Which we could in turn import thru BBTS, TFsource, etc. Just like Encore Megatron, they had to include that joke of an orange barrel plug but it happened none the less.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:00 am
by Treetop Maximus
El Duque wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.


They could easily release it Japan, which is where the release the Encore series anyway. Which we could in turn import thru BBTS, TFsource, etc. Just like Encore Megatron, they had to include that joke of an orange barrel plug but it happened none the less.


Well, yeah. TakaraTomy can do whatever the hell they want since Japan is the coolest place in the world regarding toy laws. But Hasbro can't do cool stuff like they do because of "child safety"...

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:52 pm
by Xephon0930
The question of if I'm getting this depends on the size and the cartoon accuracy of the molds in all 3 forms. If I can still play it like a Micromachine base then I will consider it. If it is pathetically small in stature,I will whisper no.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:11 pm
by dinogeist
Treetop Maximus wrote:
El Duque wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.


They could easily release it Japan, which is where the release the Encore series anyway. Which we could in turn import thru BBTS, TFsource, etc. Just like Encore Megatron, they had to include that joke of an orange barrel plug but it happened none the less.


Well, yeah. TakaraTomy can do whatever the hell they want since Japan is the coolest place in the world regarding toy laws. But Hasbro can't do cool stuff like they do because of "child safety"...


I scored a factory sealed Brave max in 2001 for under $100 at imageanime.com in NYC. since i live in NYC. I took a train to NYC image animae & paid zero shipping fees.

Their is honestly no need for hasbro to reissue fort max. this is the internet age & if takara reissues issues fort max,then this will be the way to buy a reissue fort max.

Personally I had 2 (1987 hasbro fort max & CR Brave max) fort max's & all they did was stay in storage boxes & later got sold because I didn't want them anymore.

From my persepective the fort max mold is a bit too overly kiddie for my taste. it's a over sized play set that takes up too much room in storage or on display shelves.

I honestly view the fort max toy mold the same way I view Beasrmachines supreme sized cheetor. they both look like they were created as the ultimate christmas gift to give kids under 6 years of age. they were made super simple to transformer,sculpted for kids taste,super big,super heavy to cater towards younger kids under 6 years of age.

I just prefer my TF toys in my TF toy collection to evoke & look like they were made for teenagers or adult fans.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:28 pm
by Autobot032
Treetop Maximus wrote:
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.


Let the plastic eating kids die? That's what they get for being stupid?

Do you ever listen to yourself, or stop and think before you press the submit button?

Do us a favor, don't breed. Let your end of the gene pool end with you.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:25 pm
by Stormrider
This was bound to happen sooner or later. I don't support it.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:34 pm
by It Is Him
Autobot032 wrote:Do us a favor, don't breed. Let your end of the gene pool end with you.


Why do you have to be like that?

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:42 pm
by Flux Convoy
It Is Him wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Do us a favor, don't breed. Let your end of the gene pool end with you.


Why do you have to be like that?

No kidding. Not to jump all over ya but what's up with the attacks lately? First it was likening me to Hitler, now this guy. Sure, his comments could have been thought out better but come on man. We're talking about toys. Get a handle on it.
:BOT:

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:33 pm
by alternator77
deathy wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
El Duque wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
DMSL wrote:Now would be a good time for Hasbro/Takara to announce a re-issue of this behemoth.


Hasbro will never do it because the figure smashes into a kajillion little pieces when you drop it. The government gets butthurt over **** like that. Let the plastic-eating kids die. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors. Kinda like G1 Megatron. Let the kids who take realistic toy guns outside get shot by police. That's what they get for being stupid. No need to punish collectors.


They could easily release it Japan, which is where the release the Encore series anyway. Which we could in turn import thru BBTS, TFsource, etc. Just like Encore Megatron, they had to include that joke of an orange barrel plug but it happened none the less.


Well, yeah. TakaraTomy can do whatever the hell they want since Japan is the coolest place in the world regarding toy laws. But Hasbro can't do cool stuff like they do because of "child safety"...


I scored a factory sealed Brave max in 2001 for under $100 at imageanime.com in NYC. since i live in NYC. I took a train to NYC image animae & paid zero shipping fees.

Their is honestly no need for hasbro to reissue fort max. this is the internet age & if takara reissues issues fort max,then this will be the way to buy a reissue fort max.

Personally I had 2 (1987 hasbro fort max & CR Brave max) fort max's & all they did was stay in storage boxes & later got sold because I didn't want them anymore.

From my persepective the fort max mold is a bit too overly kiddie for my taste. it's a over sized play set that takes up too much room in storage or on display shelves.

I honestly view the fort max toy mold the same way I view Beasrmachines supreme sized cheetor. they both look like they were created as the ultimate christmas gift to give kids under 6 years of age. they were made super simple to transformer,sculpted for kids taste,super big,super heavy to cater towards younger kids under 6 years of age.

I just prefer my TF toys in my TF toy collection to evoke & look like they were made for teenagers or adult fans.



OK im going to call BS deathy 100 for brave max sure yeah right ive shopped there and know the guy who owns it and there is no way in hell hed sell a bravemax for a hundred. show me a reciept and then i might believe you. even back then he was wort much more than that.

anyway as far as a ko the reason i call it a hard sell is simple 300-400 for a 2ft ko alright maybe but i just dont see the quality being that great and if they plan on keeping prices reasonable they will be downsizing it. >:oP

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:45 pm
by Crisdecal
If this is the real thing, then I hope they KO Grand Maximus, right down to the box and instructions. I love KO's.

Re: Third-Party Fortress Maximus Teaser?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:33 pm
by Xephon0930
The quality and size would have to be comparable. Otherwise,I don't want a 300-400 dollar brick that I can't transform or whatever.