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[Decepti_Tom]

Wow, you ordered way later than me. Guess BBTS has priority members lol.

Well I heard that a number of their stock had damaged boxes. I saw somebody on TFW2005 say that they were sold out except for damaged box stock for a while, but I still ordered after you.

I'll look for that quote but I'm at work and cant get to it right this second.

[mordhelm]

I am just really curious about this now. It doesn't bother me, especially since later shipping gives me more incentive to cancel before it arrives to find a better deal. I don't need Trypticon right this second. I was just shocked that an order 1.5 weeks after mine got sent.

I sent a message to BBTS asking about why that occurred. Don't worry, I didn't use any forum names to protect the innocent.

[MadProject]

Ok, I'm actually looking at the box of my Trypticon, and in a couple of minutes I'm going to open it up!
Just a question: is it possible to remove the legs AFTER putting them in their sockets, or like Fortress's arm once they're inside, they're almost impossible to remove?
Because before changing the spring, I wanted to test the ratchet of a couple of clicks, just to see how much sturdy it is, but I fear that doing that without the leg being assembled it could force the joint.

Also, I wanted to know because I read online that placing the stickers is much easier with the legs detached.


EDIT:
Never mind.
I did an unboxing video (in italian, so I probably won't post it here) and started to look how cool Trypticon is.
I didn't have the sensation that the hips ratchet joints were so hard to the point of breaking, but non the less tomorrow I'll go purchasing a couple of replacement springs, just to avoid any risk.
The legs can still be detached after clipping them, the joint it's not so hard like it's on Fortress arm.
Also, my copy of Full Tilt doesn't have the titan master port looseness issue. In fact, my TM joint is so hard that I feared to break it while I was tryin' to remove Necro to convert Full Tilt back in car mode.
I'll write a more extensive review in the next days, once I got the new springs

[o.supreme]

Never heard of Think Geek (no wonder...they are not in CA...), anyway, pretty sure the only major B&M store to carry Trypticon in the United States will be TRU. TRU online orders are sold out, and shipping on 8/1/17, I would not expect to see it in stores before then, but since its so easy for me to check going to & from work, I check about once a week just to see.

I still have this sinking feeling that production on Trypticon is going to be way less than Fort Max (which is still obtainable)...part of me wants to hold out for a sale, but then another part tells me to get it when I can, because I might not see it again...

For the record, I never saw a CW Devastator at B&M, however they are still obtainable on some 3rd party sites for retail cost.

Never saw Metroplex at any B&M either in 2013/2014, and unfortunately I was not looking online at the time.

[Decepti_Tom]

Never heard of Think Geek (no wonder...they are not in CA...), anyway, pretty sure the only major B&M store to carry Trypticon in the United States will be TRU. TRU online orders are sold out, and shipping on 8/1/17, I would not expect to see it in stores before then, but since its so easy for me to check going to & from work, I check about once a week just to see.

I still have this sinking feeling that production on Trypticon is going to be way less than Fort Max (which is still obtainable)...part of me wants to hold out for a sale, but then another part tells me to get it when I can, because I might not see it again...

For the record, I never saw a CW Devastator at B&M, however they are still obtainable on some 3rd party sites for retail cost.

Never saw Metroplex at any B&M either in 2013/2014, and unfortunately I was not looking online at the time.

Think Geek is awesome. They are owned by Gamestop. I've been buying from them for years. Though this is the first time I learned they have legit brick&mortar stores. I'm actually planning a roadtrip to a brick&mortar store now because of this. lol

[o.supreme]

OK, makes sense. Gamestop (fka Funcoland) used to be cool way back when, in the late 90's when they used to have non-game merchandise (I guess Think Geek is where it all moved to). I could always count on them to mistakenly put out anime dvd's a week or two before their scheduled release date. But now all we have in CA are Gamestops around practically every corner in my area, which, for various reasons I will not shop at, and I'm pretty sure they wont have Trypticon.

[Decepti_Tom]

OK, makes sense. Gamestop (fka Funcoland) used to be cool way back when, in the late 90's when they used to have non-game merchandise (I guess Think Geek is where it all moved to). I could always count on them to mistakenly put out anime dvd's a week or two before their scheduled release date. But now all we have in CA are Gamestops around practically every corner in my area, which, for various reasons I will not shop at, and I'm pretty sure they wont have Trypticon.

Think Geek is where I got my replica Megaman Helmet and Megabuster.

[Qwan]

Also, I wanted to know because I read online that placing the stickers is much easier with the legs detached.

Y'know, now that you say that, it makes a lot of sense. That hadn't even occurred to me, and now I realize I could've saved myself quite a bit of pain if I'd just thought about it for a minute.

Also, my copy of Full Tilt doesn't have the titan master port looseness issue. In fact, my TM joint is so hard that I feared to break it while I was tryin' to remove Necro to convert Full Tilt back in car mode.

Are there reports of a looseness issue with the TM port on Full Tilt? Both of my copies have also had extremely tight neck ports (the second one probably even more so than the first); I know the TM port on Trypticon's head is a bit loose, but that actually makes it much easier to get the Titan Master in and out from there.

Speaking of, if anyone has trouble fitting Titan Masters (or Necro at least) into their Trypticon's head-port - it can be quite tricky if you try and do it 'normally' - try sliding it in diagonally from the back of Tryp's head. Trying to clip it straight in like you'd do on another TR toy is particularly hard thanks to the spring mechanism, but there's just about enough room to fit the full small-TM-head behind the port and then slide it into place horizontally. To take it out, try flipping the TM's legs open (into robot mode position) and then just pull upward on those to detach. It's not scary and doesn't apply any worrying forces, but it makes it a heck of a lot easier to get the TM out than trying to pry on the smooth domed surfaces of Necro's head mode. (Naturally though, I don't think this'd work so well with Titan masters that have their hips attached via friction as opposed to a pin-joint.)

[MadProject]

Also, I wanted to know because I read online that placing the stickers is much easier with the legs detached.

Y'know, now that you say that, it makes a lot of sense. That hadn't even occurred to me, and now I realize I could've saved myself quite a bit of pain if I'd just thought about it for a minute.

Also, my copy of Full Tilt doesn't have the titan master port looseness issue. In fact, my TM joint is so hard that I feared to break it while I was tryin' to remove Necro to convert Full Tilt back in car mode.

Are there reports of a looseness issue with the TM port on Full Tilt? Both of my copies have also had extremely tight neck ports (the second one probably even more so than the first); I know the TM port on Trypticon's head is a bit loose, but that actually makes it much easier to get the Titan Master in and out from there.

Speaking of, if anyone has trouble fitting Titan Masters (or Necro at least) into their Trypticon's head-port - it can be quite tricky if you try and do it 'normally' - try sliding it in diagonally from the back of Tryp's head. Trying to clip it straight in like you'd do on another TR toy is particularly hard thanks to the spring mechanism, but there's just about enough room to fit the full small-TM-head behind the port and then slide it into place horizontally. To take it out, try flipping the TM's legs open (into robot mode position) and then just pull upward on those to detach. It's not scary and doesn't apply any worrying forces, but it makes it a heck of a lot easier to get the TM out than trying to pry on the smooth domed surfaces of Necro's head mode. (Naturally though, I don't think this'd work so well with Titan masters that have their hips attached via friction as opposed to a pin-joint.)

If I'm not wrong, I read in a review that their Full Tilt headmaster's joint were loose.
Since I don't know if it was just a copy or something common (it wouldn't be the first Titan Master with a loose connector) I found it was worth mentioning.

[RiddlerJ]

Just got my notification from TFSource that Trypticon is in, so he's starting to become more available.

[DeathReviews]

Wow, you ordered way later than me. Guess BBTS has priority members lol.

Well I heard that a number of their stock had damaged boxes. I saw somebody on TFW2005 say that they were sold out except for damaged box stock for a while, but I still ordered after you.

I'll look for that quote but I'm at work and cant get to it right this second.

Could the damaged boxes be evidence that the manufacturers have gone through some kind of last-minute scramble to fix the leg spring/ratchet issues? Suppose they've seen and noted the breakage issues over at the factories (or wherever). And they went out and made or bought some smaller springs to replace the ones that are causing all the damage. If they had a number of faulty units already boxed up, they would need to open the boxes to remove the legs and replace the springs. Since the legs are detached, it would probably be a simple matter for them to gather a team of employees together to disassemble the legs, swap out the springs, and re-box them. But opening and re-closing boxes that were already taped and sealed would likely show signs of tampering. Could that be why so many boxes are 'damaged'?

[mordhelm]

Hey Death, just a funny note, my order is now in PoL after I asked them about 'priority fulfillments' of preorders. They replied that it's mostly first come first serve, but there is an "algorithm" in place for additional queuing. So it's not necessarily that it's priority because you are person XYZ instead of person ABC.

If you haven't gotten yours in PoL yet, I would message them. I was pretty cordial about it, asking a question rather than making demands.

[DeathReviews]

Hey Death, just a funny note, my order is now in PoL after I asked them about 'priority fulfillments' of preorders. They replied that it's mostly first come first serve, but there is an "algorithm" in place for additional queuing. So it's not necessarily that it's priority because you are person XYZ instead of person ABC.

If you haven't gotten yours in PoL yet, I would message them. I was pretty cordial about it, asking a question rather than making demands.

That IS funny! Thanks -

[o.supreme]

I would think a company as large as BBTS would be able to fulfill orders by date/time first/last, but maybe they do it alphabetically?

besides, their newly redesigned site looks nice, but I've noticed some glitches. Tuesday if you went to the main TR page, it showed the Siege on Cybertron set still available for pre-order, then when you clicked on it, it said pre-order sold-out...

Also I know I was one of the very very last to pre-order UW-08 Computron (taking advantage of someones cancellation), but I got mine in surprisingly short time.

[mordhelm]

They said it's definitely by date and time first, mostly. But there are apparently certain instances where it's not the case. It's weird, but I'm fine with it either way, since I get my figures.

[TF-fan kev777]

They said it's definitely by date and time first, mostly. But there are apparently certain instances where it's not the case. It's weird, but I'm fine with it either way, since I get my figures.

My guess is that they use a first in/first out queueing system, but based on the number of toys they expect to get in. Say the first shipment is going to be 100 units. The first 100 people to pre-order get slotted to those first 100 units. The next 100 people go to the next shipment of 100 and so on. However, if there is a cancellation from one of the first 100, I'm guessing that the next person to order simply replaces the cancelled buyer. That way you are only overwriting 1 buyer in whatever database they use instead of slotting ever buyer after the cancellation up by one place.

[william-james88]

They said it's definitely by date and time first, mostly. But there are apparently certain instances where it's not the case. It's weird, but I'm fine with it either way, since I get my figures.

My guess is that they use a first in/first out queueing system, but based on the number of toys they expect to get in. Say the first shipment is going to be 100 units. The first 100 people to pre-order get slotted to those first 100 units. The next 100 people go to the next shipment of 100 and so on. However, if there is a cancellation from one of the first 100, I'm guessing that the next person to order simply replaces the cancelled buyer. That way you are only overwriting 1 buyer in whatever database they use instead of slotting ever buyer after the cancellation up by one place.

That would explain everything.

[Stuartmaximus]

If you are looking for a professional video review of the figure then Optibotimus has got his up now(if it hasn't already been mentioned on here)

[Overcracker]

If you are looking for a professional video review of the figure then Optibotimus has got his up now(if it hasn't already been mentioned on here)

As professional as Optibotimus can be...

I was unable to see anything about Full Tilt and Necro due to the over exposure. Not sure why it needed to be so high.

Also it was hard to make out anything about the interior of the ship mode.

[MadProject]

Allright, played with mine!
As I said before, in mine copy the hips ratchet were hard, but not at the level to looks like they shouldn't move and you're breaking something.
So I figure that my copy was "safe"
None the less, to avoid the risk, today I went purchasing a couple of new springs, weaker than the original one.
Once at home, I had to cut them in half, since I didn't consider the compression of the spring.
Basically, the new springs were weaker, but had more rounds, so when compressing them, they were even higher than the original ones.
So I cut one of the new springs in 2, and placed them in the joint.
The result looked fine, but in the end the joint looked a bit too much loose, and it had difficults in keeping the pose.
So, I did as Qwan did, and placed a cardboard disk below the spring, in order to tighten a bit the spring, and also protecting the plastic from scratches.
Now Trypticon has ratchet joint that shouldn't break, but are still capable of keeping poses.

I also had an hard time placing all the stickers.
Some of them were really hard to place, due the fact they're in place difficult to reach, and I had to use a couple of tools to place them all.
More in specific, a couple of stickers of the side of the ship and the inside of the belly were really troublesome to place.
The frail nature of the sticker sheet didn't help too.

But in the end I'm really happy for this purchase, and once fixed the ratchet joint issue (also it's kinda an easy fix, you just need to get a new pair of springs) it's really enjoyable.
Have fune with this new Decepticon monster!

P.S. I also noticed that one of the stickers has the writing D-63, an homage to the g1 toy!

[DeathReviews]

I was unable to see anything about Full Tilt and Necro due to the over exposure. Not sure why it needed to be so high.

Also it was hard to make out anything about the interior of the ship mode.

It's to wash out any imperfections in the white paper he uses as a backdrop - makes it look like he's got a huge, empty white room with not a speck of dust to be seen anywhere

Plus, sometimes people have the contrast on their monitors turned WAY down, so what looks fine on their screens is washed out on everyone else's....

[Overcracker]

I was unable to see anything about Full Tilt and Necro due to the over exposure. Not sure why it needed to be so high.

Also it was hard to make out anything about the interior of the ship mode.

It's to wash out any imperfections in the white paper he uses as a backdrop - makes it look like he's got a huge, empty white room with not a speck of dust to be seen anywhere

Plus, sometimes people have the contrast on their monitors turned WAY down, so what looks fine on their screens is washed out on everyone else's....

True, but really, I'd rather see more of the figure than a super bright white spotless background.

[william-james88]

True, but really, I'd rather see more of the figure than a super bright white spotless background.

You would enjoy Death's reviews then.

[Overcracker]

True, but really, I'd rather see more of the figure than a super bright white spotless background.

You would enjoy Death's reviews then.

I'll check them out. Thanks.

[DeathReviews]

True, but really, I'd rather see more of the figure than a super bright white spotless background.

You would enjoy Death's reviews then.

I'll check them out. Thanks.

Thanks, moderator-dude.

And welcome to the growing armies - of Death!

Sadly, BBTS has not yet sent me my Trypticon. Once I get him, I'll review him like only I can.... with Death!