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Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

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Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby william-james88 » Sat May 20, 2017 10:47 pm

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Top 5 Best Disguised Robots among Transformers Toys

I made a list of the Transformers toys which look least like the robot can transform into something else and this is pretty much the opposite. Transformers have always been called Robots in Disguise and some toys really pushed the disguise angle. There are some Transformers that one would never guess are anything more than their alt mode. Of course, the important factor here is that we are talking about their alt mode and not just a pretender shell that hides the robot. I am sure it was assumed, but I am mentioning it just in case. A brick wall would definitely help hide a small robot standing behind it, but what I give you today is the list of Transformers toys who's alt modes provide the best disguise!


5. Transformers G1 1984 Bumblebee (Bumble)

Most G1 figures are great examples of well disguised robots since the alt mode was the one that was emphasized in the two main lines contributing to Transformers. The idea was to have toy cars and real life objects that could blend in with others but also hide a robot. However, for the Diaclone cars at least, the illusion only lasted until you looked under the car and saw some flashy robot mode stickers. I wouldn't count the jets or Optimus Prime either since their robot mode kibble was detached and it wouldn't be a fair comparison. The most well disguised traditional G1 figure, to me, then ends up being good old Bumblebee. The head flap being hidden by a tire detail is very smart and he is super clean underneath, aside from some sculpting for the fists (but its not emphasized in any way, helping the illusion). He just looks like your average little toy car that any kid from the previous decades would have a bunch of. It must have been awesome for kids in the 80s to show their friends that theirs actually turned into a robot.

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4. Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Deadlift

While G1 were an early hay day in alt mode realism, that came back full circle with the movie lines which went all out with the licensing and trying to give us faithful alt modes. You got some great results, alt mode wise, but aside from the human alliance figures, you could tell there was a robot hiding there either with the massive undercarriage, the great amount of panel lines or when you would peer inside the windows. There is one toy though which I feel really looks like it isn't hiding a robot and that is Deadlift, the forklift Transformer (and the only Forklift Transformer mold we have ever gotten in the history of the brand). The forklift alt mode is so distinctive that it distracts us from thinking this actually transforms especially since it is so compact and has so many dedicated part for the alt mode. There is also the very open nature of the the forklift with the cockpit being clear and empty with a nice steering wheel and unoccupied seat.
This version of the mold also happens to be an homage to Gobot Spoons so that scores even more points in my book, but even if you didn't care about that, the fact that this version is a nice burnt orange rather than neon green makes it look more grounded in reality.


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3. Transformers Masterpiece Grimlock (MP-08)

The reason for his inclusion here is because this toys defies everything else really. Someone knowing you like transformers would assume any car you present them, or is spotted in your home, transforms. You also would probably have them in robot mode if taken out of their nice boxes. BUT this guy is a whole other story. In fact my brother commented on how awesome my Mecha Godzilla toy was when he saw my MP Grimlock on my shelf. Speak of an amazingly disguised robot. Unlike any of the others on this list, this toy in alt mode looks complete and accomplished, with the idea that this toy would sell as a non transforming separate entity to the Transformers brand. It is functional with it's own gimmicks and is probably kept even more in this mode than the robot mode. Unlike the G1, you can't even spot his robot hands under his feet, the robot is fully hidden (in plain sight too!). His amazing, detailed and unique alt mode distracts anyone from thinking that it can also transform into a robot.

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2. Transformers G1 1984 Megatron

G1 Megatron realism has caused so many problems in the past, to the point that Hasbro can never release a realistic gun Megatron again. I myself had my own problems importing it from Japan. It was held up at customs for over a month until the Canadian government opened the box and inspected it.

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Better yet, this toy was involved in a 3 hour standoff in Windsor Canada (of all places) when a 25 year old man who was just fed up of his life, held his neighbours at gunpoint... using g1 megatron in gun mode. They even had to lockdown a nearby school due to the gun scare. This is a quote from the actual news article:

The three-hour standoff forced the lockdown of a nearby elementary school, and drew a police response that included tactical officers, body armour, submachine guns, sniper rifles, a police dog and the mobile command centre.


All this due to how well disguised G1 Megatron is.

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1. Transformers Alternators Grimlock

The alternators series brought it back to the G1 days where autobot cars had interactive and somewhat detailed cockpits, and were meant to resemble other toy cars. This series went for that very same idea, having alt modes that resembled licensed car models perfectly, with visible motors, detailed dashboards, opening doors, everything you'd expect from a high quality model car. Except it also transfomred into a robot. The alternators are all great replicas of licensed cars but the mustang model went an extra mile by having an entire piece cover the bottom to give extra detail and hide more of the robot. This gives the robot a whole lot of shell but also an amazing disguise. No one can guess this guy Transforms unless they know exactly what kind of toy it is.

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Honourable mentions:

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Optimus Prime

The big factor here that distinguishes this mold from other releases of the movie Peterbilt truck is the back of the cab section that removes any holes giving hint that this is more than just a truck. The view from the bottom gives nice symetrical pannels that hide the head and most of the robot kibble.

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Transformers Classics Megatron

There is not one single angle or part that would make anyone think this is more than a kid's toy gun. There is even a crosshairs in the scope and the trigger gives a satisfying click. The main reason it didnt make it is due to the less realistic nature of this alt mode.

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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun May 21, 2017 12:09 am

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that really sucks about the customs in canada
i live in the states of all places and never had any issues when i purchased
a reissue megatron or the first masterpiece megatron no orange cap
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Emerje » Sun May 21, 2017 1:17 am

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william-james88 wrote:The head flap being hidden by a tire detail is very smart


That's not a wheel, it's a fan. Real vintage Choro-Q cars had that little plate on the back that you could wedge a coin into to do tricks (hence the western releases being called Penny Racers by Takara and later Tonka's Turbo Tricksters).
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Hasbro couldn't exactly run with that since they didn't have the actual Choro-Q license so they tried to disguise the silver panel as part of the engine (they're in the back of Beetles). That wasn't too much of a stretch since people would actually customize their cars that way.
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Obviously it's super simplified and cartoony, but it appears to be what they were going for to keep it from looking like a Choro-Q car.

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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 21, 2017 5:33 am

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I knew there would be at least one Alternator here.

Allow me to submit one entry. A TF that I randomly discovered by pure luck while toy hunting in a thrift shop:

ROTF scout Brimstone.

The bike is absolutely PERFECT. The feet and head also manage to hide in plain sight by integrating masterfully into the altmode. Sure, the bot is alien looking, but Brimstone is an AMAZING toy that should be in anyone's collection.

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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 21, 2017 5:35 am

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Ultra Markus wrote:that really sucks about the customs in canada
i live in the states of all places and never had any issues when i purchased
a reissue megatron or the first masterpiece megatron no orange cap
i guess i was lucky


I received my G1 Megatron with NO problems. At all. And it came in the box, almost brand new, in gun mode, no orange cap.
I also paid NO customs. I too, was very lucky on that one. :shock:
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Kurona » Sun May 21, 2017 6:13 am

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I don't quite buy the 'less realistic' nature of the Classics Megatron mold as a factor for keeping it off the list. The idea was that he's a Nerf gun. And alright I'm not expert on Nerf guns so maybe he looks nothing like any Nerf gun ever made, but also consider he is at the end of the day a kid's toy and his alt mode does look like any sort of generic role-play gun a kid would run about with. I think that in particular makes it noteworthy; it's something a kid would actually play with.
... besides, you put MP Grimlock on the list. That's not exactly a realistic alt-mode :lol:


I'm not sure I have any contributions to the article... of my collection I feel the TFP Revealer Vehicon is pretty well disguised, especially from underneath. Classics Optimus doesn't do a terrible job either, especially with those small molded inner cab details. Universe Cyclonus is also something that doesn't look like it turns into a robot... none of these are Top 5 material or anything, I'm just trying to think of things off the top of my head in my collection that fit the bill.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby dragons » Sun May 21, 2017 6:36 am

Kurona wrote:I don't quite buy the 'less realistic' nature of the Classics Megatron mold as a factor for keeping it off the list. The idea was that he's a Nerf gun. And alright I'm not expert on Nerf guns so maybe he looks nothing like any Nerf gun ever made, but also consider he is at the end of the day a kid's toy and his alt mode does look like any sort of generic role-play gun a kid would run about with. I think that in particular makes it noteworthy; it's something a kid would actually play with.
... besides, you put MP Grimlock on the list. That's not exactly a realistic alt-mode :lol:


I'm not sure I have any contributions to the article... of my collection I feel the TFP Revealer Vehicon is pretty well disguised, especially from underneath. Classics Optimus doesn't do a terrible job either, especially with those small molded inner cab details. Universe Cyclonus is also something that doesn't look like it turns into a robot... none of these are Top 5 material or anything, I'm just trying to think of things off the top of my head in my collection that fit the bill.


He's good figure but any megatron that transforms into gun makes list at some point no mention of deluxe class megatron Idw version? Voyager Optimus prime classics
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Postby Kurona » Sun May 21, 2017 6:58 am

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dragons wrote:
He's good figure but any megatron that transforms into gun makes list at some point

Well...

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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Hydrargyrus » Sun May 21, 2017 10:37 am

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Great list! I love the point about Grimlock. Not sure I have much else to say.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby kurthy » Sun May 21, 2017 10:41 am

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RID seems to be overlooked on this list with thunderhoof and fracture not even making the honorable mention. And the blue color is actually appropriate on thunderhoof as Ford and new holland tractors are blue.

Also, MP prowl has a very impressive undercarriage. I'd probably drop Grimlock and slide him in at no. 5.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Evil Eye » Sun May 21, 2017 12:20 pm

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Nice list! And wow, I see what you mean about Alternators Grimlock. What an amazing figure!

I'd be tempted to add MP-03 Starscream on the list myself, simply because of his utterly sublime jet mode (which sadly knocked his robot mode down a peg or two).
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

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I would have personally placed MP Optimus Primal as my number one. >:oP I remember the first time I saw the figure and I asked myself: How is he going to transform? :???:
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Cobotron » Sun May 21, 2017 1:35 pm

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Kurona wrote:
dragons wrote:
He's good figure but any megatron that transforms into gun makes list at some point

Well...

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Click here. >:oP

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And was Classics Megatron's alt mode supposed to specifically be a Nerf gun?
I always thought it was just a "Laser Gun" To skirt the changing laws, and it had been dubbed a Nerf gun because of it's outrageous design and neon colors by the fandom.

Edit: Felt like digging.
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So it was never officially labeled as a "Nerf Gun". Nor do I think he was supposed to turn into a toy gun. He transforms into a Fusion Blaster. Of course there is no such thing as a Fusion Blaster, thus making him a, toy gun. :lol:
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun May 21, 2017 1:48 pm

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Cobotron wrote:And was Classics Megatron's alt mode supposed to specifically be a Nerf gun?
I always thought it was just a "Laser Gun" To skirt the changing laws, and it had been dubbed a Nerf gun because of it's outrageous design and neon colors by the fandom.

Edit: Felt like digging.
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So it was never officially labeled as a "Nerf Gun". Nor do I think he was supposed to turn into a toy gun. He transforms into a Fusion Blaster. Of course there is no such thing as a Fusion Blaster, thus making him a, toy gun. :lol:


He was never called a NERF gun, officially, but he sure is styled after one. To be exact he's styled after the N-Strike Maverick:

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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Cobotron » Sun May 21, 2017 1:50 pm

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Verrrrrrry interesting. :-?
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun May 21, 2017 2:25 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Better yet, this toy was involved in a 3 hour standoff in Windsor Canada (of all places) when a 25 year old man who was just fed up of his life, held his neighbours at gunpoint... using g1 megatron in gun mode. They even had to lockdown a nearby school due to the gun scare. This is a quote from the actual news article:

The three-hour standoff forced the lockdown of a nearby elementary school, and drew a police response that included tactical officers, body armour, submachine guns, sniper rifles, a police dog and the mobile command centre.


All this due to how well disguised G1 Megatron is.


Proving how stupid the orange safety cap law is. Also, seeing as how gangbusters and the like have simply started to paint Thierry real gun barrel tips orange, as well as hide then in pieces of chopped up nerf guns.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sun May 21, 2017 2:38 pm

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The most well disguised traditional G1 figure, to me, then ends up being good old Bumblebee.


Really? Not Soundwave? Even his weapons disguise into batteries!
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Kurona » Sun May 21, 2017 4:00 pm

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Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:
dragons wrote:
He's good figure but any megatron that transforms into gun makes list at some point

Well...

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Click here. >:oP

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Oh I wasn't saying he's not a good toy - if anything he seems pretty excellent and I'd like to pick him up sometime. Juuuuust that from that side he sure does look like a folded up robot :lol:
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby TK415 » Sun May 21, 2017 6:51 pm

That is one right on accurate list. Look at those alt modes. They look just like what they are supposed to be and not transformers.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby william-james88 » Sun May 21, 2017 7:08 pm

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Kurona wrote:... besides, you put MP Grimlock on the list. That's not exactly a realistic alt-mode :lol:

But he makes up for it by looking like a toy that doesnt turn into a robot, a definite winner.

dragons wrote:He's good figure but any megatron that transforms into gun makes list at some point no mention of deluxe class megatron Idw version? Voyager Optimus prime classics


A ton of other Megatrons made the lists at some point, they didnt have to be guns.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/32291/
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https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/38027/
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ime/34791/

They just have to excel at something, that deluxe Megs doesn't really excel at anything.

kurthy wrote:RID seems to be overlooked on this list with thunderhoof and fracture not even making the honorable mention. And the blue color is actually appropriate on thunderhoof as Ford and new holland tractors are blue.


I am very glad you brought up RID, its a great line! But Thunderhoof has a visible head syndrome, kinda takes him out of the race:

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Plus, Hasbro really botched that deco with that blotchy black on the side.

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MagicDeath wrote:Great list! I love the point about Grimlock. Not sure I have much else to say.


Thanks man ;)^

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I would have personally placed MP Optimus Primal as my number one. >:oP I remember the first time I saw the figure and I asked myself: How is he going to transform? :???:

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I had a good idea that his legs became the robot legs though since there was all that robot kibble in the back, along with the back of his feet.

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The most well disguised traditional G1 figure, to me, then ends up being good old Bumblebee.


Really? Not Soundwave? Even his weapons disguise into batteries!


Too bad he has visible head syndrome

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Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 21, 2017 10:42 pm

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I disagree that's "VHS" on G1 Soundwave. The head in this way look just like some random details that were common for electronics at the time.

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Beside, if the face is covered and the head integrate perfectly in the altmode, no matter the angle, it's no longer a VHS.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Kurona » Mon May 22, 2017 5:03 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I disagree that's "VHS" on G1 Soundwave. The head in this way look just like some random details that were common for electronics at the time.

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Beside, if the face is covered and the head integrate perfectly in the altmode, no matter the angle, it's no longer a VHS.

Of course he's not a VHS, he's a Microcassette Recorder :-P
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Mon May 22, 2017 8:13 am

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Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I disagree that's "VHS" on G1 Soundwave. The head in this way look just like some random details that were common for electronics at the time.

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Beside, if the face is covered and the head integrate perfectly in the altmode, no matter the angle, it's no longer a VHS.

Of course he's not a VHS, he's a Microcassette Recorder :-P

You just won the internet for the day with that comment. Please use the internet responsibly. :D

Anyway... interesting list. I can't find fault with those you've chosen, but I would've added G1 Soundwave, and yeah, Classics-2006 Megatron.
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby Relic0037 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:47 pm

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Masterpiece Grimlock is definitely one of the best toys to hide its robot mode. He may be the only Transformer toy that I would prefer to keep in alt mode on my display shelf (unless Takara eventually makes some more Dinobots).
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Re: Top 5 Best Disguised Robots Amongst Transformers Toys

Postby RAR » Tue May 23, 2017 5:39 am

Soundwave on the Cartoon is size as if he plays C-90 - so the large cassettes are accurate to the TV show (and some comics) the actually Micro Change toy is a Micro cassette recorder though - anyone who ever had a old fashioned answering machine or a dictaphone would be familar with those small cassettes as they actually lasted longer in use that many other cassette formats did.

Sonicron is also a Micro-cassette compatible toy too - but he's actually based on a dictaphone (the sort of thing some reporters might use a few years ago) - The Microcassette "Walkman" was a thing for a very short time in the 1980's before the settled on the bigger cassettes for use as a music format.

So technically both sizes is correct. - I'd not complain to much if just for fun someone wanted to make a VHS tape Ravage or laserbeak - but they'd likely be way to large - so perhaps a Betamax tape or a Dat tape is a better idea - Personally I like the idea of Video-8 tapes. or even Sony Minidiscs.
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