Carnivius_Prime wrote:Headmasters fine (cos I liked having little pilots/drives for Transformers, one of the main reasons I enjoyed the Human Alliance toys) but none of the others here appealed to me. I actually hate light-piped eyes as they only look good if the figure is positioned in correct lighting (which is rare) otherwise they just make the figure look lifeless. I tend to open up the heads of mine and paint the eyes a solid colour so it's much more consistent.
Good point, I love this kind of gimmick. Very cool, adds to the value without taking away from another aspect.Carnivius_Prime wrote: Also there are some minor gimmicks I like where particular figures are designed to interact in some way with each other but not necessarily needed to. Like how RotF Skystalker can fit his drone mode on top of Mindwipe (and I've liked the fan-configs of Skystalker becoming extra armour for Mindwipe's robot form too). Neither figure is hampered in it's overall design by doing so (unlike so many Combiners over the years) and you're not feeling forced to purchase both but if you choose to then you got that nice extra play/display value.
CommanderShadowmus wrote:Armada Sideways with his Headmaster inspired faction switching gimmick?
Big Convoys did not light up though.Overcracker wrote:CommanderShadowmus wrote:Armada Sideways with his Headmaster inspired faction switching gimmick?
True. I love that thing, and his headmaster gimmick. Not only did the Minicons combine to form a rider. The had robot modes of their own, and actually changed his faction depending on who was plugged in.
Another gimmick I like that sadly did not produce the results it should have, but was a great try, was Armada Optimus Prime's self transforming trailer.
It was a novel idea, that sadly did not really work out.
Trailer to Base to Pants. Responding to the transformation of the cab via IR.
As to the list: Crumplezone was o.k. The Primal Botcon repaint used the mold much better.
Man I've been trying to get my hands on a Air Attack Optimus, hey even a Year of the monkey Primal would work.
As to the Matrix, Big Convoy had done it about 4 years earlier. And is still one of the nicer Matrices out there. Which does bring up an idea for a list: "Top 5 best removable Matrices".
Are there even that many?
Overcracker wrote:As to the Matrix, Big Convoy had done it about 4 years earlier. And is still one of the nicer Matrices out there. Which does bring up an idea for a list: "Top 5 best removable Matrices".
Are there even that many?
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Railbomb wrote:Overcracker wrote:As to the Matrix, Big Convoy had done it about 4 years earlier. And is still one of the nicer Matrices out there. Which does bring up an idea for a list: "Top 5 best removable Matrices".
Are there even that many?
Well, there's Big Convoy, <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=11600&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=smart&icep_ff3=9&icep_uq=transformers%20reissue%20g1&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" class="epn-link" target="_blank" id="epn25">Reissue G1</a> Optimus, Cybertron Optimus, <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=11600&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=smart&icep_ff3=9&icep_uq=transformers%20hybrid%20style&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" class="epn-link" target="_blank" id="epn24">Hybrid style</a> Convoy and <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=11600&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=smart&icep_ff3=9&icep_uq=transformers%20galaxy%20convoy&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" class="epn-link" target="_blank" id="epn23">Galaxy Convoy</a>, MP-01, MP-09, MP-10, Movie Battle Blades Optimus, DotM Optimus, and... I think that's it for the removable ones, unless you count that Arms Micron one that sits on the back of Prime Prime (that sounds funny...). There'd be a few more if you count molded ones.
Emerje wrote:Yeah, I'm really surprised combining isn't number one on the list. It's the one gimmick (next to transforming) that we've had pretty consistently since 1985 in every major series of the franchise. G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID 2001, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RID 2015, and the movie lines have all included on some level the combining of two or more figures together.
Emerje
TK415 wrote:Light piping is the very best gimmick ever. Subtle, nonintrusive, and really adds a lot to the toys. Cyber keys were fun. They were often a neat extra mini-transformation. Always nice to get a good Matrix of Leadership, cool when it glows. I didn’t know about 1 and 2, very nice and cool and unique elements. Interesting list, thanks for the info WJ.
Delta Magnus wrote:Soundwave and Blaster's cassette gimmicks, specifically the G1/MP versions. I really want to get an MP Soundwave some day.
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Yeah, I'm really surprised combining isn't number one on the list. It's the one gimmick (next to transforming) that we've had pretty consistently since 1985 in every major series of the franchise. G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID 2001, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RID 2015, and the movie lines have all included on some level the combining of two or more figures together.
Emerje
Its not on the list because combining cant be focused on just one toy or even just one line. Same with 5 mm weapons and a big robot over a smaller robot. I really wanted to go with the more gimmicky stuff that come when purchasing one toy. And the whole idea of combiners is that its not just one toy anyway, which is what I was focusing on. Its very broad and I would have to pick the best in the eras and that will be for another list
SureShot18 wrote:Doesn't the new MP Hot Rod have a removable Matrix?
Overcracker wrote:SureShot18 wrote:Doesn't the new MP Hot Rod have a removable Matrix?
Nope. He can store MP-10s matrix in his chest, but he does not come with one of his own.
Emerje wrote:How is combining any different than Headmasters? That too isn't tied to a single figure since the head and body are two different characters, and examples can be found across multiple series whether it's Overload and Sideways in Armada, Brainstorm in Generations, Scorponok at BotCon, Titan Masters in Titans Return, or Brave Maximus in Car Robots/RID. It's all the same gimmick, even though sometimes given different names just as combining is.
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:I find combining a different topic all on its own but we dont have to agree.
Emerje wrote: The title of the list isn't specific about that and neither is the intro.
I'm curious where something like Power Core Combiners fit into your rationale since they're technically combiners, but they combine with drones, not other Transformers.
Emerje
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