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Rated X wrote:I was expecting Peter Cullen to be number one. While the Transformers brand defined him, he is truly a celebrity in his own right. He definitely has more money and star power than Weird Al in the film industry. I didnt know the Rock played Cliffjumper. That was cool. Why I totally understand how Lenord Nemoys recent passing puts him in legendary status, it was really the guy who played Galvatron in the cartoon series after the 1986 movie that defined Galvatron. The happy sounding, maniac voice worked much better for the character in my opinion than Lenord Nemoys more bold, serious voiceovers. Galvatron was a unpredictable raging lunatic and the cartoon voice was perfect.

No offense to Mr. Cullen, but saying he has more star power than Weird Al is crazy talk. Also, Cullen is a voice actor by profession, thus not a "celebrity voice actor".

I think of all of these lists, this is the list I've most agreed with, though I do think those asking for Scatman Cruthers or Robert Stack to have been on the list may have a point. I think maybe I'd take Orson Welles off for one of those two. His Unicron work is not his best, and pretty much anyone could have done it given the amount of manipulation done to the voice. It's no wonder there're so many rumors floating around that he died before recording most of the dialog and Nimoy did the rest, even if that's probably not the case.

Speaking of... Nimoy as first, that's 100% perfect. In a movie filled with celebrity voices, he stood head and toes above the rest, and turned in a stellar, iconic performance as Galvatron. And my opinion has nothing to do with him recently dying, thank you very much.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Rated X wrote:I was expecting Peter Cullen to be number one. While the Transformers brand defined him, he is truly a celebrity in his own right. He definitely has more money and star power than Weird Al in the film industry. I didnt know the Rock played Cliffjumper. That was cool. Why I totally understand how Lenord Nemoys recent passing puts him in legendary status, it was really the guy who played Galvatron in the cartoon series after the 1986 movie that defined Galvatron. The happy sounding, maniac voice worked much better for the character in my opinion than Lenord Nemoys more bold, serious voiceovers. Galvatron was a unpredictable raging lunatic and the cartoon voice was perfect.

No offense to Mr. Cullen, but saying he has more star power than Weird Al is crazy talk. Also, Cullen is a voice actor by profession, thus not a "celebrity voice actor".

I think of all of these lists, this is the list I've most agreed with, though I do think those asking for Scatman Cruthers or Robert Stack to have been on the list may have a point. I think maybe I'd take Orson Welles off for one of those two. His Unicron work is not his best, and pretty much anyone could have done it given the amount of manipulation done to the voice. It's no wonder there're so many rumors floating around that he died before recording most of the dialog and Nimoy did the rest, even if that's probably not the case.

Speaking of... Nimoy as first, that's 100% perfect. In a movie filled with celebrity voices, he stood head and toes above the rest, and turned in a stellar, iconic performance as Galvatron. And my opinion has nothing to do with him recently dying, thank you very much.

What has weird al really done over the years besides a bunch of silly parodies like "eat it" and "amish paradise" ? Is the guy still even relevant ? He is two steps away from being stan bush. Peter Cullen has made millions over the years and has played Prime in at least 3 different continuities. He is more of a bonofide celebrity any day of the week than weird al.

On Lenord Nimoys Galvatron voice being better, thats your opinion. Not taking anything away from Nimoy, but his voice just isnt very Galvatrony in my opinion. Maybe it would have worked for Megatron better. Megatron was more cold and calculating while Galvatron was an insidious madman. They might have been the eame guy but the two had completely different personalities worthy of completly different style voices. I kind of see Galvatron similar to cobra commander another leader that wasnt all there.

I think I remembered Orson Wells saying he hated his role.




Then again it was his last role before he died.

Rated X wrote:What has weird al really done over the years besides a bunch of silly parodies like "eat it" and "amish paradise" ? Is the guy still even relevant ? He is two steps away from being stan bush.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

14 studio albums
12 million+ albums sold
4 Grammy awards
4 Gold Records
6 Platinum Records
1000+ live shows (with his international tour for later this year recently announced)
Multiple TV and movie appearances

Here's a tip, before you start typing, do a little bit of research, otherwise you just end up looking like a total ignorant fool.

Oh and Cullen making millions over the years ... do you have inside knowledge of the mans finances? No? Thought not. Go sit in the corner and don't come out until you decide to be less ignorant.

I don't disagree with Leonard Nimoy's spot on the list, but I completely disagree that Galvatron was more ruthless or psychotic than Megatron as Leonard Nimoy portrayed him in the Movie.

Galvatron straight up murders Brawn, Prowl, and Ironhide in the glorious first 15 minutes, and you can assume the Battle of Autobot City saw several more casualties by his hand before Megatron took out Prime. Galvatron is ruthless, sure, but you can't say he's any more so than Megatron.

Plus, Galvatron didn't adopt his psychotic persona until after the Decepticon remnants rescued him in the events following the Movie.

Optimus, G1 ----------------PETER CLAVER CULLEN
Starscream, G1 -------------CHRISTOPHER COLLINS
Unicron, the movie ---------ORSON WELLES
Blurr, the movie -----------JOHN MOSCHITTA
Reckgar, the movie ---------ERIC IDLE



those are my top 5, IN THAT ORDER, sorry caps, when I close my eyes and I can hear their iconic voices and feel how reach is transformers universe since the begining.

Edit, I wish could add, g1 megatron, soundwave and jazz, but the list would grow even more.

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:What has weird al really done over the years besides a bunch of silly parodies like "eat it" and "amish paradise" ? Is the guy still even relevant ? He is two steps away from being stan bush.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

14 studio albums
12 million+ albums sold
4 Grammy awards
4 Gold Records
6 Platinum Records
1000+ live shows (with his international tour for later this year recently announced)
Multiple TV and movie appearances

Here's a tip, before you start typing, do a little bit of research, otherwise you just end up looking like a total ignorant fool.

Oh and Cullen making millions over the years ... do you have inside knowledge of the mans finances? No? Thought not. Go sit in the corner and don't come out until you decide to be less ignorant.

Let's not forget that his last album, which came out just last year, debuted at number one.

I love Peter Cullen, really, but he's not a star outside of the voice acting and animation communities.

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:What has weird al really done over the years besides a bunch of silly parodies like "eat it" and "amish paradise" ? Is the guy still even relevant ? He is two steps away from being stan bush.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

14 studio albums
12 million+ albums sold
4 Grammy awards
4 Gold Records
6 Platinum Records
1000+ live shows (with his international tour for later this year recently announced)
Multiple TV and movie appearances

Here's a tip, before you start typing, do a little bit of research, otherwise you just end up looking like a total ignorant fool.

Oh and Cullen making millions over the years ... do you have inside knowledge of the mans finances? No? Thought not. Go sit in the corner and don't come out until you decide to be less ignorant.

Well I guess that explains why you didnt know about butchers harem. Youre too busy being a weird al mega-fan. Once again regional/cultural differences build a wall between us. I dont know how big weird al is out there or in other countries, but where I live he has always been considered a joke. Yes his videos are funny, but they pretty much cemented his legacy. Even the song he did for the 1986 G1 movie was a spoof of a serious song. And you have the nerve to say he has more "star power" then peter cullen? Cmon now....And peter cullen is the "star" of the bay series which is already 4 films strong. When you work with bay, you make millions. If peter cullen says he wants 2 million for part 5, do you think bay will say no ? He will pay the man. Transformers will not let him walk away. He will be the voice of every prime until the day he croaks...

On a side note, if I even suggested that you were an "ignorant fool" like you just called me above, I would be banned for life. In your own words...play nice.

BERSEKAEL wrote:Optimus, G1 ----------------PETER CLAVER CULLEN
Starscream, G1 -------------CHRISTOPHER COLLINS
Unicron, the movie ---------ORSON WELLES
Blurr, the movie -----------JOHN MOSCHITTA
Reckgar, the movie ---------ERIC IDLE



those are my top 5, IN THAT ORDER, sorry caps, when I close my eyes and I can hear their iconic voices and feel how reach is transformers universe since the begining.

Edit, I wish could add, g1 megatron, soundwave and jazz, but the list would grow even more.

Wasn't Starscream done by Chris Latta?

Rated X wrote:

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:What has weird al really done over the years besides a bunch of silly parodies like "eat it" and "amish paradise" ? Is the guy still even relevant ? He is two steps away from being stan bush.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

14 studio albums
12 million+ albums sold
4 Grammy awards
4 Gold Records
6 Platinum Records
1000+ live shows (with his international tour for later this year recently announced)
Multiple TV and movie appearances

Here's a tip, before you start typing, do a little bit of research, otherwise you just end up looking like a total ignorant fool.

Oh and Cullen making millions over the years ... do you have inside knowledge of the mans finances? No? Thought not. Go sit in the corner and don't come out until you decide to be less ignorant.

Well I guess that explains why you didnt know about butchers harem. Youre too busy being a weird al mega-fan. Once again regional/cultural differences build a wall between us. I dont know how big weird al is out there or in other countries, but where I live he has always been considered a joke. Yes his videos are funny, but they pretty much cemented his legacy. Even the song he did for the 1986 G1 movie was a spoof of a serious song. And you have the nerve to say he has more "star power" then peter cullen? Cmon now....And peter cullen is the "star" of the bay series which is already 4 films strong. When you work with bay, you make millions. If peter cullen says he wants 2 million for part 5, do you think bay will say no ? He will pay the man. Transformers will not let him walk away. He will be the voice of every prime until the day he croaks...

On a side note, if I even suggested that you were an "ignorant fool" like you just called me above, I would be banned for life. In your own words...play nice.

Again, Wierd Al's last album debuted at number one. Yes he's funny, but that doesn't mean he's seen as a joke. Since when where comedians not stars?

There are definitely times on this site when a question like, "Which toilet paper is the softest?" turns into a fight in seconds

Rated X wrote:Even the song he did for the 1986 G1 movie was a spoof of a serious song.

Dare to be Stupid is an original song. It's a 'style parody' of Devo (which is a question in itself - how on this earth do you consider Devo serious in any way, shape, or form???), but not a spoof of an actual song.

megatronus wrote:

Rated X wrote:Even the song he did for the 1986 G1 movie was a spoof of a serious song.

Dare to be Stupid is an original song. It's a 'style parody' of Devo (which is a question in itself - how on this earth do you consider Devo serious in any way, shape, or form???), but not a spoof of an actual song.

I never actually heard the original song. I just know one exists. I was under the assumption weird al slaughtered it like he does every other song. You better squeeze all the charmin you can while mr. Whipple is not around...

Rated X wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Rated X wrote:Even the song he did for the 1986 G1 movie was a spoof of a serious song.

Dare to be Stupid is an original song. It's a 'style parody' of Devo (which is a question in itself - how on this earth do you consider Devo serious in any way, shape, or form???), but not a spoof of an actual song.

I never actually heard the original song. I just know one exists. I was under the assumption weird al slaughtered it like he does every other song. You better squeeze all the charmin you can while mr. Whipple is not around...

Dude, I literally just said it. Dare to be Stupid is the original song. There is no other.

Rated X wrote:I never actually heard the original song. I just know one exists. I was under the assumption weird al slaughtered it like he does every other song. You better squeeze all the charmin you can while mr. Whipple is not around...

You sure have strong opinions about things you have no knowledge of.

Currently, I have friends over (nerdy friends in fact) and did a survey: 4/6 don't know who Peter Cullen is, including myself. But everyone knows who Weird Al is.

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:4/6 don't know who Peter Cullen is, including myself.

More importantly, do they know who Devo is?

Had to look up Tony Todd because I didn't know who he was. Looking him up on IMDB shows a lot of low budget and B movies, work as an extra on TV shows, and a ton of voice credits. Not sure I would have even considered him as an honorable mention, let alone give him the number 2 spot. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, I've honestly only heard his voice and he's good, but doesn't really seem to fit in with a group of household names. Good voice actor? Sure. Celebrity voice actor? Not so much.

I'd place him in the same ranks as Scatman Crothers and Casey Kasem, people who are famous in their own right, but got their roles because they were already fulltime voice actors, not because of their celebrity status. The other guys on the list, they aren't voice actors by trade; Crothers, Kasem, and Todd were. I doubt anyone called these guys and said "we need your name attached to this role, it'll really boost viewership!" These guys auditioned just like everyone else.

Peter Cullen got his celebrity status from the movies, not before them. A celebrity voice actor would be one that got their role because of their star status, he got his star status because of his role, it's not the same thing. He only got play Optimus Prime in the movies because of the fans, it took some convincing to get Bay on board with it.

Just because you recognize someone's name doesn't necessarily make them a celebrity voice actor.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Had to look up Tony Todd because I didn't know who he was. Looking him up on IMDB shows a lot of low budget and B movies, work as an extra on TV shows, and a ton of voice credits. Not sure I would have even considered him as an honorable mention, let alone give him the number 2 spot. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, I've honestly only heard his voice and he's good, but doesn't really seem to fit in with a group of household names. Good voice actor? Sure. Celebrity voice actor? Not so much.

I'd place him in the same ranks as Scatman Crothers and Casey Kasem, people who are famous in their own right, but got their roles because they were already fulltime voice actors, not because of their celebrity status. The other guys on the list, they aren't voice actors by trade; Crothers, Kasem, and Todd were. I doubt anyone called these guys and said "we need your name attached to this role, it'll really boost viewership!" These guys auditioned just like everyone else.


Just because you recognize someone's name doesn't necessarily make them a celebrity voice actor.

Emerje

But Todd got his roles because he is a star.



He is a Celebrity just because you never heard of them doesn't mean their not a Celebrity



And your using IMBD as a source?


Even Wikipedia is better.

Emerje wrote:Had to look up Tony Todd because I didn't know who he was. Looking him up on IMDB shows a lot of low budget and B movies, work as an extra on TV shows, and a ton of voice credits. Not sure I would have even considered him as an honorable mention, let alone give him the number 2 spot. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, I've honestly only heard his voice and he's good, but doesn't really seem to fit in with a group of household names. Good voice actor? Sure. Celebrity voice actor? Not so much.


Emerje

Candyman, Final Destination and Night of the living Dead are not low budget B movies their above that.



Frankly I'm insulted but that's just bias on my part for having had met him as a kid and pretty much idolizing him for a long time.



Tony Todd was hired as a voice actor after he became a celebrity fyi.

Rated X wrote:Well I guess that explains why you didnt know about butchers harem. Youre too busy being a weird al mega-fan.

Once again your ignorance shows. I clearly provided you a link to where I got the information from. That doesn't make me a "mega-fan". Yeah, I am a fan of Weird Al, but I can also do a Google search. Something you have clearly demonstrated to have difficulty with.

Once again regional/cultural differences build a wall between us. I dont know how big weird al is out there or in other countries, but where I live he has always been considered a joke.

Once again, ignorance. Just because something isn't "popular" in your area, it therefore can't be popular elsewhere.

And you have the nerve to say he has more "star power" then peter cullen?

Funny how I never said that. But now that you bring it up. Yes, I would say he has more "star power" than Peter Cullen. Go up to someone not associated with the Transformers fandom and ask them who they've heard more of out of Cullen or Yankovic. You'll find more people will be answering Yankovic.

Cmon now....And peter cullen is the "star" of the bay series which is already 4 films strong. When you work with bay, you make millions. If peter cullen says he wants 2 million for part 5, do you think bay will say no ? He will pay the man. Transformers will not let him walk away. He will be the voice of every prime until the day he croaks...

He's a voice actor. Clearly you're a "mega-fan" of his so of course you think he's the bees knees. I think you'll find most of the on-screen actors were paid more.

Feel free though to prove me wrong with actual facts and not just fanboy babblings.

btw, bit of advice, Google is your friend. You should try to learn how to use it. It will save you a whole lot of embarrassment in the future.

william-james88 wrote:Peter Cullen net worth: 6 M$

Weird Al net worth: 16 M$

And a lot of that $6M will have come from his voice acting work over the years that wasn't just Transformers.

william-james88 wrote:
Lets not be too harsh on the poor guy, he simply didnt know who Tony Todd was. What matters most is that you know him and thus can see where I am coming from with this list. If it wasn't for Nimoy's stellar performance I would have put Todd first simply because the voice was so perfect for the character while it also being instantly recognisable to me.

And Emerge, IMDB shows you the most recent stuff first, so its easy to lose track of why someone you don't know is famous, wiki gives a more broad sense. What you did is like going to IMDB to look for Robert DeNiro and then saying that the actor is not that important since all he does is dumb comedies, spoofs and b movies (Little Fockers, Last Vegas, The Big Wedding, The Bag Man, Machete...).

And hey, now Emerge knows one of Horror's finest leading men. Check out Candyman (which I refer to in the list) when you have a chance!

Like I said I idolize Tony Todd he's an inspiration I've met him a couple times.



Like I said I'm bias and I have major anger issues so usually when I see something that I know is not true I have a habit of arguing and try to prove my point.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Peter Cullen net worth: 6 M$

Weird Al net worth: 16 M$

And a lot of that $6M will have come from his voice acting work over the years that wasn't just Transformers.

I'd be curious if anyone had a source to Cullen's compensation from the 4 live action TF movies. If I were a betting man, I would probably say at least half his net worth comes from there.

For that matter, I'd also be curious to hear how much of his net worth came from TF:Prime, and whether the income from 65 episodes + Rise of the Predacons stacks up to even just 1 of the Bay movies.

Where's Jon3.0 when you need him?