Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:11 pm

Emerje wrote:Convertors

Well spank me silly and call me Va'al. I actually had Monte Carlo (no idea what happened to him). Wasn't a bad figure, the arms could be a problem though because of the "shoulder pads".
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby Cyrano » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:12 pm

william-james88 wrote:Thanks so much! That is one hell of a good idea. Off the top of my head I can think of:
G1 and Gen doubledealer
Cybertron Sideways
Animated Shockwave
Universe Dinobot
Punch Counterpunch

Who else?


Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia and her Arcee repaint both have a flipping spark crystal with a different faction on the opposite.

"Beast Changer" (Savage/Noble) has a unique spark crystal that's half Vehicon and half Maximal. Kind of a bend to the criteria but an interesting one.

ROTF Wheelie

I'm sure there are others too.
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby Emerje » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:03 pm

Armada Sideways as well.
Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron has both, but you have to look a little harder for the Decepticon one.
CW Megatron has a sticker sheet with both factions on it, though it may be a stretch since you wouldn't use both at the same time.

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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:58 pm

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Cyrano wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks so much! That is one hell of a good idea. Off the top of my head I can think of:
G1 and Gen doubledealer
Cybertron Sideways
Animated Shockwave
Universe Dinobot
Punch Counterpunch

Who else?


Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia and her Arcee repaint both have a flipping spark crystal with a different faction on the opposite.

"Beast Changer" (Savage/Noble) has a unique spark crystal that's half Vehicon and half Maximal. Kind of a bend to the criteria but an interesting one.

ROTF Wheelie

I'm sure there are others too.


Mostly redecos tho:

G1 Punch/Counterpunch
G1 Doubledealer

BW Transmetals 2 Blackarachnia
BotCon Arcee (as a redeco of the above, she has :BOT: and :MAXIMAL: symbols)
BM Beast Changer (a :MAX2: and :VEHI: hybrid)

Armada Sideways
Energon Rapid Run (redeco of the above)
Cybertron Sideways

Robot Masters Reverse Convoy (the :CON: is tiny, on the flip-out panel the Megatron head is on)

Animated Soundwave

Universe 2008 Dinobot
Generations Decepticon Doubledealer

ROTF Autobot Wheelie

TFCC Punch/Counterpunch

And just to be complete, here are some with optional stickers of multiple insignias:

e-Hobby Overcharge
e-Hobby Detritus

Prime Arms Micron Leo Prime

Generations Leader Megatron
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Its not that much to go on. Of course, I say that in this list which has nothing ignored, but this list was more to be informative and to really give a well deserved crown to Jetfire, highlighting how great it was to actually get a damn valkyrie as part of the TF line up (I mean, its pretty crazy when you think we got that).

Speaking of the valkyrie, where were those in that link you sent Jelze for the mark toys? What was the name of the line they were a part of, and were they as cheap as the others?
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:14 pm

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Weapon: Dual Bladed Sword
Man, investigating Mark is such a mess... but I think I got figured it out now, thanks to the toy list of ToyboxDX.

To start off: the toys were produced by Mark it seems, however the ones based on Dorvack, Macross, Orguss, Beetras and even Galvion were designed or commissioned by Takatoku Toys. As that company went under, Mark went on its own as per usual, and used the designs that were finished, but never released in time, for their own lines or licensed them out to Select, and seemingly formed a partnership as some Mark toys carried the Select copyright mark when released in Japan.

That aside, I found the parent or child lines of all Convertors toys (except for that freaking Bull! :BANG_HEAD: ). For the interest of Transformers, here are the ones relating to the Deluxe Autobots and Jetfire:

Variable Machine Series (Dorvack)
Wheels (Mugen Calibur)
Chopper (Ovelon Gazette)
Tanker (Bonaparte Tulcas)

Henkei Type (Macross)
Zardak (VF-1S Super Valkyrie)
Zark (VF-1S Valkyrie Roy Fokker)

Those were released by Takatoku Toys, hence the initial confusion.
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:22 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Henkei Type (Macross)
Zardak (VF-1S Super Valkyrie)
Zark (VF-1S Valkyrie Roy Fokker)

Those were released by Takatoku Toys, hence the initial confusion.

Wait so the samller scale Macross toys were actually released by Takatoku and not Mark?
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Weapon: Dual Bladed Sword
william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Henkei Type (Macross)
Zardak (VF-1S Super Valkyrie)
Zark (VF-1S Valkyrie Roy Fokker)

Those were released by Takatoku Toys, hence the initial confusion.

Wait so the samller scale Macross toys were actually released by Takatoku and not Mark?


Yup, but as noted before probably produced by Mark, for Takatoku. Only that particular series though. It's the same type of outsourcing used for Omega Supreme and Sky Lynx, which made the copyright default to the manufacturer and not the commissioner once the latter went under.
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby Emerje » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:27 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mostly redecos tho:

G1 Punch/Counterpunch
G1 Doubledealer

BW Transmetals 2 Blackarachnia
BotCon Arcee (as a redeco of the above, she has :BOT: and :MAXIMAL: symbols)
BM Beast Changer (a :MAX2: and :VEHI: hybrid)

Armada Sideways
Energon Rapid Run (redeco of the above)
Cybertron Sideways

Robot Masters Reverse Convoy (the :CON: is tiny, on the flip-out panel the Megatron head is on)

Animated Soundwave

Universe 2008 Dinobot
Generations Decepticon Doubledealer

ROTF Autobot Wheelie

TFCC Punch/Counterpunch

And just to be complete, here are some with optional stickers of multiple insignias:

e-Hobby Overcharge
e-Hobby Detritus

Prime Arms Micron Leo Prime

Generations Leader Megatron

Just thought of another one:
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Armada Wheeljack (and repainted Shattered Glass Sideswipe)

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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:41 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Weapon: Dual Bladed Sword
Of course I forget the one with the slashed out :BOT: #-o Good call!
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby optimuspete » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:59 pm

Other figures with both faction symbols that I can think of are Revenge of the Fallen wheelie, Universe razor claw, Robot Masters reverse Convoy, Armada sideways Armada Wheeljack, I believe Revenge of the Fallen Jetfire does, and I guess Generations leader Megatron... I still feel like there's more
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby optimuspete » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:11 pm

sorry just realized a bunch of other people said most of those. Also I think arms Micron Unicron
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby optimuspete » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:28 pm

Oh and that huge age of Extinction one Change Grimlock
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby optimuspete » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:37 pm

And titanium Megatron the first one... still think there's more
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby optimuspete » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:39 pm

Not like I think those last couple will make the list anyway LOL cool sorry about the multiple posts just getting used to this and I ment
the giant Grimlock the one with the pop out autobot symbol flip out Decepticon one
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Re: Top 5 G1 Transformers Toys Not Designed by Takara

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:18 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Weapon: Dual Bladed Sword
No need for multiple consecutive posts, there's an "Edit" button in the top right corner of each post you make. :)

I did some quick checking with regards to the new figures you mentioned:

Prime Arms Micron Gaia Unicron: another one with a sticker sheet with multiple symbols: :CON: and :BLEND:
AoE Flip & Change Grimlock: :BOT: only.
Titanium Megatron: :CON: only... technically. He does have multiple :BOT:, as a counter for many he's taken down perhaps. By that logic Universe 2008 Hardhead should count as well, as his shield has a struck out :CON:
Universe 2003 Razorclaw: He presents a special case, as he has three: a sculpted :MAXIMAL:, a tampoed :CON:, but his Spark Crystal is a :MAX2: one, an accident no doubt. That's quite common with Universe 2003 toys, as Hasbro grabbed whatever Crystal was at hand, and since they're covered up by :BOT: and :CON: tampos, nobody would notice, right? Right?
RotF Jetfire: despite being labeled an Autobot, he only has :CON: because of his prior status as a Seeker.
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