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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I HATE Henkei Galvatron because he seriously needs heels. It's impossible to stand him up.

He does have heels, but his shins slide forward for them to be swung into position.

Yeah, I meant his heels need to be a tiny bit lower. The heels are tiny bit too high so he always wants to fall backward. He's really back-heavy.

I never liked that mold. I only got him to go with Cyclonus & Scourge.

I'm glad Galvy made the list. For years I took the Universe version down to transform idly while watching movies. Him, Ironhide / Ratchet, and Sideswipe all, actually.

The best version is ehobby since you can combine them with the Platinum Cyclonus / Scourge / Sweep set to make a small reformatting scene. That's my favorite scene in the entire movie. He's very situational. He never worked in a crowd of general Decepticons, but in some very specific instances he can work.

When I was sourcing the Universe Cyclonus set, I bought that Platinum set. I was confused that Cyclonus was unchanged, yet Scourge and Galvatron had new altmodes? Both objectively worse than their originals. Its not like Galavtron's altmode has the controversy of Megs or Shockwave. Wherein it needs to altered. No one is walking around with a cannon under their arm...

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I HATE Henkei Galvatron because he seriously needs heels. It's impossible to stand him up.

He does have heels, but his shins slide forward for them to be swung into position.

Yeah, I meant his heels need to be a tiny bit lower. The heels are tiny bit too high so he always wants to fall backward. He's really back-heavy.

I never liked that mold. I only got him to go with Cyclonus & Scourge.

Having pulled mine out of storage sans missile, I see what you mean now. Ideas were sound, but the execution after downscaling the design is mediocre at best. Ironically, I can see a 2Up KO being released, and people calling the original the KO instead

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When I was sourcing the Universe Cyclonus set, I bought that Platinum set. I was confused that Cyclonus was unchanged, yet Scourge and Galvatron had new altmodes? Both objectively worse than their originals. Its not like Galavtron's altmode has the controversy of Megs or Shockwave. Wherein it needs to altered. No one is walking around with a cannon under their arm...

It was a different time. They weren't really made with each other in mind.

As a whole the Classics line was a reimagined G1 with a focus on real world vehicles as a base which is why both Galvatron and Scourge have real world vehicle modes. BUT Cyclonus was part of an anniversary set of molds which included Hot Shot, Dinobot, Cheetor, and Inferno (with Inferno being a G2 inspired pump truck instead of a G1 inspired firetruck, the G2 version has an accessory G1 didn't).

True enough. As mentioned elsewhere, I'm a big fan of the Universe Cyclonus design. It is just a shame he didn't have a contemporary Galvatron and Scourge to go with him. Also I guess, Cyclonus doesn't really have a real world equivalent? The shape of Scourge's stealth bomber altmode is at least analogous to his traditional altmode. By the same token, a tank is a cannon with wheels..

A friend does assure me that Kingdom Cyclonus and SS'86 Scourge compliment each other very well.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True enough. As mentioned elsewhere, I'm a big fan of the Universe Cyclonus design. It is just a shame he didn't have a contemporary Galvatron and Scourge to go with him. Also I guess, Cyclonus doesn't really have a real world equivalent? The shape of Scourge's stealth bomber altmode is at least analogous to his traditional altmode. By the same token, a tank is a cannon with wheels..

If anything, Cyclonus could be an adapted SR-71 Blackbird... like Silverbolt. Funny how CW took advantage of that idea.

I got this silly thing and I fell in love. Anyone know if Titanium Optimal Optimus was generally panned, or is it generally loved?

Scourge's updated alt. mode isn't really like his original design. His original design is this sci-fi flying bathtub. We did get the Botcon release of Scourge, which I like quite a lot.

I'd have liked both Galvy and Scourge to have been more G1 inspired, but in the end they're all too small for a regular display anyway.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Great list, but reading it I just kept hearing Samuel L. Jackson’s voice saying, “English mother f***er, do you speak it!?”
Lots of good ideas, but grammar is you friend.

English is not my primary language. So if you find any "shocking" mistakes, feel free to point them out and explain the correct way so that I can learn.
It will be much more helpful.

First the fun: This list rocks! There are so many garbage toys on it! I'm happy to say that I only have the Henkei and eHobby 3-pack crystal exclusive versions of that Galvatron. Because the decos are better and... crystal Scourge and Cyclonus are beautiful!

But one that I feel should be on this list, at least of toys that are utterly terrible, is the ROtF Skids/Mudflap Ice Cream Truck! Pink and white? Sure, it works for Arcee, but two utterly wretched-looking RotF designs? It shouldn't work! But it touches novelty just enough that I really regret selling the pair off.

Now the grammar: (Note: I saw the writing as a means of putting satire into the article. Kind of made the language match the zaniness of the article.) Now, the lesson (sorry all, 15 years as an ESL teacher coming out):

Subject/verb agreements. Subjects can be singular (exactly 1) or plural (0 and anything more than or less than 1. So "0 people" = plural. ".5 people" = plural. "EveryONE" = singular because "one". "Some ones" = plural because "oneS".

Verbs have to agree with the number there. There are 2 verb forms in the present simple in English: V1 and V5. Look at "Eat" V1 = eat. V5 = eats. "Buy" V1 = "buy." V5 = "buys." "To Be" is a little different, because there are 3 forms: is (the singular form for everything except "I"), am (only with "I"), are (the plural form). As you can see, singular forms require "-s" or "-es" at the end.

Now examples taken from text:

When it come to G1 toys... = When IT COMES to G1 toys. ("It" is singular, so the verb requires the "s")

...Machine Wars Soundwave to be superior because he have more "serious" colors and he got the big name. = Machine Wars Soundwave to be superior because he HAS more "serious" colors and he HAS got the big name. (The first is "he" so it is singular, and requires the "-s" ending for "To Have". The second is actually the Present Perfect tense, which is used to indicate that something was made in the past and is still true today. But that's neither here nor there.

But a few like Gauntlet101010 love the guy. = This is a tricky one, because the subject is actually "a few" and not Gauntlet's name. Anyway, "a" means "exactly one of many possible options" so "a few" is singular and should read as "A few, like Gauntlet 101010 LOVES the guy."

Last one:
...still, ShadowBlaze do love the damn thing. = ShadowBlaze is 1 person (exactly, I hope...) so it should read "ShadowBlaze DOES love the damn thing."


Otherwise, the language is great! Fun article!

Optimutt wrote:

Otherwise, the language is great! Fun article!

Thank you for the very constructive input!
I'm basically learning English by myself since at least 25 years and many subtleties are still hard to grasp. My browser and phone can point out spelling mistakes on individual words but syntax and grammar escape them. I do know the your/you're and many other things but I still have much to learn.

What I can do though is to run the article through Gmail or Words so that those mistakes can be pointed out.

Taking the above message into Gmail:

Thank you for the very constructive input!
I've been learning English by myself for at least 25 years and many subtleties are still hard to grasp.  My browser and phone can point out spelling mistakes on individual words but syntax and grammar escape them. I do know the your/you're and many other things but I still have much to learn.

What I can do though is to run the article through Gmail or Words so that those mistakes can be pointed out.

Well, that's effective. I'll do that next time for my official articles.

for me, it's animated snarl. yeah, he's limited in possibility, yes he's not show accurate, yes he's got gaps and holes where he shouldn't. but I just love how compact he is in dino mode.

I have to agree with that Silver Knight Optimus. I love that thing too. It's also one of the figures that seems to get the most ooohs and ahhhs from non fans who see him in the shelf.

2007 movie Payload is another one that I really like, that not many others seem to (he was called Pegload at the time for peg warming so much).

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:I have to agree with that Silver Knight Optimus. I love that thing too.

BROTHER!

-Kanrabat- wrote:I got this silly thing and I fell in love. Anyone know if Titanium Optimal Optimus was generally panned, or is it generally loved?

The entire Titanium line is generally panned, but the most infamous one is GiJoe Megatron as it falls apart easily.

I think the consensus at the time was that that primal was good, but that they picked the wrong form to focus on.

May as well say that my favorite Titaniums are Rodimus, Scourge, and the Fallen with the Fallen being the best out of those. Even though he's actually Megatron and not really in the right colors. Other than a 3rd Party version I think he's the only option we have for a DW styled Fallen.

the whole "Legion Class" (3" tall) you can't beat me lol

william-james88 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I got this silly thing and I fell in love. Anyone know if Titanium Optimal Optimus was generally panned, or is it generally loved?

The entire Titanium line is generally panned, but the most infamous one is GiJoe Megatron as it falls apart easily.

I think the consensus at the time was that that primal was good, but that they picked the wrong form to focus on.

Lol, yeah. Why would anyone focus on the beast mode of a Beast Wars toy?

To be fair, OpOp is the least Beast orientated Beast Wars toy...

Logged in for the first time in four years just to express that I nearly choked seeing Stalker as the first one on the list XD Unironically one of my absolute favorites in my collection. His colors are wack, he doesn't do much but come on it's STALKER. He's just got presence and personality and he's fun. Making no apologies for my much loved robot son.

Nice list! Knowing how much you love Silver Knight Optimus, Kanrabat, I'm definitely not surprised to see it at #1.

I'll give another shoutout to Animated voyager Starscream. I think he's pretty good and gets more hate than he deserves.

There's another toy that I'd like to mention, but I think it's more a case of being overlooked and forgotten rather than truly hated. Generally, discussion around the best Kup toy revolves around TR/Legends and SS86. But honestly? I think it's Generations Kup. His robot mode is nicely articulated and undeniably "Kup". His transformation is meaty and unique, especially for the torso and legs. His alt mode is exactly what I'd imagine an earth-mode Kup would look like. And to top it all off, his musket laser actually resembles a musket, and it's awesome. Seriously, I'd put that musket laser on a top list of TF toy accessories. Gen Kup isn't really accurate to anything, so I think a lot of people sleep on it, but they're missing out on a great figure.

Now, there's a part of Gen Kup that IS almost universally hated: his headsculpt. And I'll be honest... I like it. It's prominent "cheekbones", hooked nose and pointy chin really remind me of some of his IDW appearances (Spotlight: Kup, Sins of the Wreckers, etc). Is it the greatest headsculpt ever? No, but it's better than SS86 IMO. So there, Gen Kup totally qualifies as a "hated" toy that I love.

jtanimator wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Great list, but reading it I just kept hearing Samuel L. Jackson’s voice saying, “English mother f***er, do you speak it!?”
Lots of good ideas, but grammar is you friend.

English is not my primary language. So if you find any "shocking" mistakes, feel free to point them out and explain the correct way so that I can learn.
It will be much more helpful.

I’m usually not this guy, but it’s incredibly hard to read into how sarcastic and spiteful this comment is intended to be. If it is, I don’t know why you’re being so defensive, he was just pointing out that the article was a little hard to read because of the seemingly intentional “mistakes” made grammatically. I was thinking the same thing, and it was rather confusing. If this is a sincere comment, which I doubt, then ignore this. Nothing happening here lol.

Anyways, power of the primes Jazz for me. Everyone hates that dude, and I bought him thinking I would, but instantly I fell in love with his satisfying transformation and blocky robot mode. As a matter of fact after buying the new SS 86 figure i compared them and potp jazz looks WAY cooler and feels just as good to me. Never heard of someone else liking that figure.

I'm not trying to be spiteful at all! I just had a hard time understanding some of the article. I think his list is great. It just needed a bit of proofing or editing, and it's extremely difficult to proof and edit your own stuff.

cruizerdave wrote:[

I'm not trying to be spiteful at all! I just had a hard time understanding some of the article. I think his list is great. It just needed a bit of proofing or editing, and it's extremely difficult to proof and edit your own stuff.

I found out that Gmail will do the proofreading work. It will not be perfect, but it will iron-out most kinks.

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About Classic Kup, I love him too, but that head was changed for the I-Gear one. This make me think about another list. Top Five "outdated" TF toys that are still BETTER than their update.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I got this silly thing and I fell in love. Anyone know if Titanium Optimal Optimus was generally panned, or is it generally loved?

I own him. He's not bad. He's too heavy for his own good, but at least he does not fall a part like G.I. Joe Megs which I also own, though he's n a box disassembled, because he can't stay together. Same box my only Iron Man 2008 Movie figure is. Still love that guy. Just have nobody else to display him with.



Anyway, Titanium OPOP is one on the better figures from the titanium line. Other's being the seeker mold, G1 Magnus and the Fallen.
He looks real nice with my other Primals:




I was never able to get a Titanium Beast Machine's Cheetor and I always wanted one.

Overcracker wrote:I was never able to get a Titanium Beast Machine's Cheetor and I always wanted one.

I own him and he's fantastic except how his chest transform to switch between bot and cheetah heads. It's so badly designed, that I need to unscrew and screw back things in to have clearance.

This was a good list. It's fun to see what molds people don't like that others actually do.

I think I found a new one for me: AOE Leader Optimus Prime. I rediscovered that mold recently, and I think I appreciate it a lot more now. I really like it! It needs work, but I like it for what it was and still is