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The difference is that RED is trying to go for mainstream appeal. By contrast, the Action Master-original characters are anything but mainstream.

Without the Vehicles, there is no action, no action, no action, no action at all.

Bah, auto-correct! That was supposed to read "Mezco," for their 1:12 Collective product line.

I was actually quite shocked to see Cheetor today at Walmart (they were randomly in another section, but I put them back with the Transformers, even though they didn't have a dedicated peg). There was also Optimus & Megatron, I guess with only 2 new bots, they may be repacking parts of wave 1 also. Wave 1 I only saw a couple times. It may be a good/bad thing. Even though the quality of these toys isn't great, I guess the low production run of each will meet the smaller demand, so its not like these hang around for months not selling.

While I personally have no interest in these RED figures, I'm popping in to this thread to let those of you who are interested know that Hasbro Pulse just added a Partner Exclusives page where they are now offering the first wave of RED figures in limited quantities, in case that is a better option for anyone than their nearest Walmart that may or may not be carrying them.

This also gives major credibility to the big leak we have with the SG repaints/Rexy crossover/etc, but that's a discussion for elsewhere.

Nemesis Primal wrote:While I personally have no interest in these RED figures, I'm popping in to this thread to let those of you who are interested know that Hasbro Pulse just added a Partner Exclusives page where they are now offering the first wave of RED figures in limited quantities, in case that is a better option for anyone than their nearest Walmart that may or may not be carrying them.

This also gives major credibility to the big leak we have with the SG repaints/Rexy crossover/etc, but that's a discussion for elsewhere.

Came in to do the exact same thing. We'll just have to wait in see if other exclusives (I'm looking at you Thrust) appear or if only new runs of exclusives are getting this treatment.

The Pulse Partner Exclusives section now has Wave 2 of the R.E.D. series. Cheetor is currently sold out. I got the Arcee figure but I was disappointed with it, as the figure design limits the articulation. Still, glad it was the one that I chose to get, unless they reissue one of the Prime figures at some point.

Found an Arcee at Walmart, decided to give her a go and show people want Prime figures. I went into the experience trying to be positive despite universal negative reactions to RED.

Unfortunately, that rang true for Arcee.

First off, the materials are absolute crap. What kind of plastic is this? None of my Marvel Legends or Black Series or Plasma Series figures feel like this, it's rubbish! It is so soft and bendy and the joints are either loose or feel like they are going to bend like a twist tie when i try to articulate her.

And speaking of articulation, who the hell approved these figures with only single joint 90 degree elbows and knees? for this line, double jointed elbows and knees should have been a requirement.

Lastly, they dropped the ball on the colors and paint apps. The pink and lack of any color on the weapons or effects part suck hard.

In short, Arcee will be my only RED. Hasbro should scrap this line, it is absolute garbage and will ultimately only take up space on the ever shrinking Walmart TF displays.

Kinda looking forward to refomatting Megatron and the Galvatron with Kingdoms being a mess (and if a figure isnt going to have all its modes, then it lacking the ability to transform isnt as bad).

Prime Megatron and Prime Prime may be tempting too but I think scale that shouldnt bug me, would bug me.

shockwaves probably a pass but it will likely look nicer than the siege figure.

I kinda want them, but I also remember how bad the first wave was.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I kinda want them, but I also remember how bad the first wave was.

I was very disappointed in Arcee despite trying to love her. She will be the one one I get of these

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I kinda want them, but I also remember how bad the first wave was.

I was very disappointed in Arcee despite trying to love her. She will be the one one I get of these

I have to remind myself that the Super7 figures are coming

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I kinda want them, but I also remember how bad the first wave was.

I was very disappointed in Arcee despite trying to love her. She will be the one one I get of these

I have to remind myself that the Super7 figures are coming

I mean, why pay 20$ for a non transforming figure when you could pay 40$

$50 and it's in the scale I want and was expecting from RED with better quality.

IGN just revealed RED Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron, Pulse & Walmart preorders go up on Friday: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lector-con

william-james88 wrote:Thanks to Nemesis Primal, we know that IGN just revealed RED Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron. Pulse & Walmart preorders go up on Friday: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lector-con.

Both figures come in at 6-inches tall and are non-converting, as is the case with the R.E.D. line. By going R.E.D., Hasbro opted to "bring collectors the most screen-accurate versions of their favorite characters" for Primal and Megatron.

Where to Preorder the New Transformers R.E.D. Figures on July 23
Transformers R.E.D. Optimus Primal - 22,99 $US
Transformers R.E.D. Reformatting Megatron - 22,99 $US
Optimus Primal has 30 points of articulation and detailed paint, coming in at 74 deco ops. While not convertible, Primal does have a pair of blasters tucked away under his forearms, which is nice.

Megatron has 23 points of articulation and is modeled and decoed after the scene in the 1986 Transformers Movie "midway through his rebirth into the immensely powerful and menacing Galvatron." Megatron comes with Fusion cannon and includes 4 changeable hands holding Energon accessories.

Haven't bought any of those R.E.D figures but damn if Megs and Primal aren't tempting me. I like the reformatting translucent purple.
and Primal just looks awesome. Very close to Kingdom interestingly enough.

I don't have any interest in BW anything...
I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??
Again, only if it ever goes on sale...

After seeing the mess they made of Cheetor, I had no intention of getting any R.E.D figures, but that Optimus Primal! Granted there's little point when the Kingdom figure exists, but this fella's going straight into my Optimus Primal shrine.

The Megatron's good, too. Better this than another Siege Voyager Megatron with some purple bits and a REALLY badly deco'd tank.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

ooo... I legit like that Megatron. though honestly I wish he had some internal sculpting in the grid pattern area to replicate the internal bits from that scene. will probably have to get that one.