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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:49 am
by Marcdachamp
Sabrblade wrote:
Marcdachamp wrote:I hope he gets to drop a couple F-bombs, though. He's pretty great at it.
Yeah, cuz that's exactly what this children's toy brand needs more of. >:oP


I'm joking. I did love when Sam Jackson said "stupid ass" in Avengers, though. That was 5 movies overdue. :lol:

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:52 am
by ILL-Star
This is all fine and dandy, but Mark Wahlberg doesn't make the whole focus more on the humans thing more excusable.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:23 pm
by Swiftknife24
Call me crazy, but I actually quite like that new logo...

(Though to be nit-picky, the bottom of the '4' should be angled steeper to match the half of the 'Con logo and the peaks should be angled in the other direction, to mirror the peaks of the logo *and breathe*...Other than that, not bad!)

And yes, I like Mark Wahlberg. ^^

AM

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:24 pm
by Ultra Markus
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Featuring songs performed by... New Kids on the Block. #-o

there talking about Mark wahlberg not Donnie wahlberg
Donnie Wahlberg. Danny's last name was Wood.

Mark was a former member who quit very early on.

and how many hit songs did new kids have with mark wahlberg?

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:25 pm
by Sabrblade
Ultra Markus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Featuring songs performed by... New Kids on the Block. #-o

there talking about Mark wahlberg not Donnie wahlberg
Donnie Wahlberg. Danny's last name was Wood.

Mark was a former member who quit very early on.

and how many hit songs did new kids have with mark wahlberg?
They were just starting out when he was a member. his stint was brief, but existent.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:31 pm
by President-prime
Personally, I'm open when I went to watch Star Wars. Great everything, but gotta admit, Hayden christianson was pretty bad in that movie. But I can't blame home. He's a good actor in other movies. I just blame on the script. Thus saying, bad movies are blameworthy in all respect. Actors, writers, directors, producers. Shia and Hayden was too new in the market of an actor to criticize or fix the script. Mark may have a little acting power to say, "hey Bay, this is. Not gonna work with the audience. Lets try it this way." Going back to weaving. He had that acting power but decides to not use it. Shame on him for making those remarks.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:51 pm
by Rodimus Prime
I'm sorry, I just had to re-post this. I couldn't believe I forgot about it...


Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:33 pm
by TimothyR
Swindle01 wrote:and the cast just keeps on getting crapper....

why not just add colin farrell and ask him to do any accent that ISNT irish?

ffs michael bay could not direct a decent film if his life depended on it. Crap cast and crap story lines in all the movies with even worse emo band doing the music for it

Just because speilberg throws money at crap till its better doesnt actually make it better

i mean ffs tf3 - hey why dont we have megatron as a death machine truck?....isnt it ment to be robots in disguise??

it was like a bad game of hide and seek - OH LOOK theres megatron 'how did you know?' maybe because you look like a mad max death truck?....

awful awful idea casting mark wahberg to do this crap. The movies are bad enough but hes been in ALOT of terrible movies that were like being in your own bath....only to find a turd in it - The Happening - is just 1 example of an awful movie this guy has done....i mean christ he seemed almost as if he couldnt even be bothered in most of the scenes


crappier? wahlberg isn't that bad, i actually enjoy quite a few of his movies. he's definitely not WORSE than shia. so i don't, at all, believe that he makes the movie "crappier"

crappy cast? in all transformers movies or all of his movies? jon voight isn't that bad, i thought that josh duhamel did a pretty good job in all of the movies. having real deal armed forces soldiers in the movies is pretty awesome. having peter cullen and leonard nimoy is pretty awesome. plus, with movies like this, they really need to use the budget wisely being that the robots are all computer generated. and it costs a lot more to add effects to a large robot dual than it would with just two normal people fighting.

emo bands? .. i assume you don't know anything about music. i can't recall a single "emo" band playing during any of the movies.

throwing more money at a movie might not make it "better", but it can certainly make it cooler. i know that the movies aren't all that thought provoking. but when i go see a movie like this, i don't go into it thinking my mind is going to be blown.. i go into it thinking that my senses will be blown, which every movie has done.

so, you're going to complain about megatron being a beat up mad max looking truck while he's living in the desert in africa? ? you do realize in the previous two movies he's only had a cybertronian mode.. and lets see.. if that truck pulled up next to you tomorrow... you'd automatically think that it was a transformer? no, so neither would people driving on the streets in the movies.

i've seen some ugly ass trucks in my day, ugly paint, ugly designs, custom grills.. etc. plus, the only thing that looks a little out of place on the truck is the spikes above the windshields.. other than that, it just looks like a normal rusty old truck.

and i guess you just missed the tone of the happening. people might think it was a bad movie, but he was acting that way for a reason. i enjoyed it.

but hey, it's hard for people to be pleased when all they're looking for is that turd in the tub rather than paying attention to everything else.

you can't please everyone.

i would rather have a different director and a fresh take on the franchise.

but i think some of you are taking it a little too far. i mean, at least we're not like the thundercats, their show being cancelled, GI Joe whose first movie wasn't very good and their second movie was such a disaster (so i read) that new scenes had to be shot and they needed to change it over to 3D to make more money.

some day we'll get a really solid couple movies. but for now, we should enjoy all of the money the franchise makes, so that in return we get stuff like masterpiece figures, generations grimlock, video games, and prices that aren't completely ridiculous like some of the other stuff in the toy aisle.

just remember, money talks. the bay movies have made a ton of money. so it's not a mistake for it to continue. it's just not the choice everyone wanted. that doesn't make it wrong.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:17 am
by zodconvoy
Well, this does bode well for the next movie.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:08 am
by OptiMagnus
Awesome! I like Wahlberg a lot. He isn't limited to just one type of role, so he can be completely serious or humorous. It should be a good thing for the series.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:43 pm
by LOST Cybertronian
Industry people seem to have a lot of good things to say about the casting of Mark Wahlberg in the TF 4 movies. MTV.com had this to say about the casting of Wahlberg.

MTV.com wrote:"It's an absolutely brilliant move," MTV Geek editor Valerie Gallaher tells MTV News of Wahlberg's casting. "It'll keep this franchise fresh."

"The guy can act - as anyone who has seen 'Boogie Nights' or 'The Departed' can attest to," agrees Brian Truitt with USA Today. "And he brings sort of an exasperated 'Come on, alien robots, are you kidding me?!' vibe that would make for a great and different dynamic."


Also, TMZ had a phone interview with Michael Bay as he talks more about the casting of Wahlberg. He had a few things to say about the comments made by former franchise star Shia Lebeouf. And last but certainly not least he let a minor spoilerish plot point escape saying the new movie would take place 4 years after the attack in Chicago as seen in Dark of the Moon. The movie will also see release July 4, 2014. The Michael Bay interview starts 18 minutes into the video.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:10 pm
by Ultra Markus
the only thing good about this movie will be Marky Mark
the guy can act in any movie!

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:58 pm
by RazorSlash92
Y'know, the first 3 movies are guilty pleasures to me. I enjoy them to an extent, although I recognize when they completely screw up an aspect. Namely Shockwave in general, and the lack of any proper Optimus vs Megatron fight. But I'm really a bit iffy here. I'm not exactly sure they'll be able to pull off what they're trying to do. The "half-reboot" thing. Especially when they're in talks to completely replace the robot cast.

Also; Unicron or gtfo.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:22 pm
by Hotrodimust
I hope the funky bunch make a cameo hahaha

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:25 pm
by CMBcheetor
:michaelbay: Here is a brief summary of the plot: :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:40 pm
by Sabrblade
CMBcheetor wrote::michaelbay: Here is a brief summary of the plot: :michaelbay:
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It's missing a chick. :P

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:56 pm
by Ominous Prime
Acting talent is pretty irrelevant. By all accounts John Malkovich was a magnificent actor too... and look what all that talent was reduced to in Dark of the Moon.

Given how the "crazy" level for every character keeps getting amped up further with each Transformers film, I'm expecting every single character in TF:4 to be at "Jim Carrey on a sugar high" levels of crazy. If any cast member can actually fit anything close to a meaningful performance into the midst of that insanity, I will be most impressed.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:25 pm
by Mekatron
Sorry... doesn't matter who's cast, it's directed by Michael Bay and that's enough for me to stay the hell away. Practically fell asleep from boredom during the first 2 and refuse to watch another of his movies. He has zero talent and has no concept of delivering an interesting plot... not to mention the overall horrendous aesthetics of the movie-verse thus far. Transformers isn't about the human-cast anyway, I'd rather a Cybertron/Space movie with ZERO humans involved...

If these horrible movies have made so much money... just imagine how well a GOOD Transformers movie would do. The success of the first three only tells me that people must REALLY love Transformers... even when they're covered in crap.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:36 pm
by Sabrblade
Mekatron wrote:If these horrible movies have made so much money... just imagine how well a GOOD Transformers movie would do. The success of the first three only tells me that people must REALLY love Transformers... even when they're covered in crap.
More like they love flashy fight scenes with big explosions and CGI robo-aliens trying to kill each other, as well as cool-looking military technology, hot eye-candy babe actresses, fanservicey stud actors, and well-known voice actors the public recognizes (Peter Cullen for the fanboys, and Hugo Weaving, Leonard Nimoy, etc. for the casual moviegoers).

That's what made these movies popular, not the Transformer characters themselves. :-|

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:58 pm
by SKYWARPED_128
Ominous Prime wrote:Acting talent is pretty irrelevant. By all accounts John Malkovich was a magnificent actor too... and look what all that talent was reduced to in Dark of the Moon.

Given how the "crazy" level for every character keeps getting amped up further with each Transformers film, I'm expecting every single character in TF:4 to be at "Jim Carrey on a sugar high" levels of crazy. If any cast member can actually fit anything close to a meaningful performance into the midst of that insanity, I will be most impressed.


Gotta agree with this. Honestly, I just don't know what's wrong with Bay when it comes to Transformers; if memory serves, the characters in Bad Boys and The Rock weren't nearly as crazy or annoying as the TF movies.

Sabrblade wrote:
Mekatron wrote:If these horrible movies have made so much money... just imagine how well a GOOD Transformers movie would do. The success of the first three only tells me that people must REALLY love Transformers... even when they're covered in crap.
More like they love flashy fight scenes with big explosions and CGI robo-aliens trying to kill each other, as well as cool-looking military technology, hot eye-candy babe actresses, and fanservicey stud actors, and well-known voice actors the public recognizes (Peter Cullen for the fanbody, Hugo Weaving and Leonard Nimoy for the casual moviegoers).

That's what made these movies popular, not the Transformer characters themselves. :-|


Sad but true.

I know, since I'm a part of that audience. I left TF's behind along with all my childhood memories when I reached my teens, and it was the cool CGI designs of the Bayverse robots and those over-the-top transformation scenes that got me interested in Transformers again.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:07 pm
by chaosmage42
not again -the only good thing is we get a few older series characters repainted for other uses

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:23 pm
by T-Macksimus
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Ominous Prime wrote:Acting talent is pretty irrelevant. By all accounts John Malkovich was a magnificent actor too... and look what all that talent was reduced to in Dark of the Moon.

Given how the "crazy" level for every character keeps getting amped up further with each Transformers film, I'm expecting every single character in TF:4 to be at "Jim Carrey on a sugar high" levels of crazy. If any cast member can actually fit anything close to a meaningful performance into the midst of that insanity, I will be most impressed.


Gotta agree with this. Honestly, I just don't know what's wrong with Bay when it comes to Transformers; if memory serves, the characters in Bad Boys and The Rock weren't nearly as crazy or annoying as the TF movies.

Sabrblade wrote:
Mekatron wrote:If these horrible movies have made so much money... just imagine how well a GOOD Transformers movie would do. The success of the first three only tells me that people must REALLY love Transformers... even when they're covered in crap.
More like they love flashy fight scenes with big explosions and CGI robo-aliens trying to kill each other, as well as cool-looking military technology, hot eye-candy babe actresses, and fanservicey stud actors, and well-known voice actors the public recognizes (Peter Cullen for the fanbody, Hugo Weaving and Leonard Nimoy for the casual moviegoers).

That's what made these movies popular, not the Transformer characters themselves. :-|


Sad but true.

I know, since I'm a part of that audience. I left TF's behind along with all my childhood memories when I reached my teens, and it was the cool CGI designs of the Bayverse robots and those over-the-top transformation scenes that got me interested in Transformers again.


I have to make one slight change to Saberblades comment about the VA's: Leonard Nimoy should be included on the list for the Fanboys as well as the casual moviegoers. Having any member of the original 1986 animated movies cast be a part of the new films is a huge plus from a fanboys pov.

Skywarped, it's great having your input on coming back to the movies/fandom since so many on here, especially the Bay haters, are folks that have stuck with it throughout and have only one perspective on the franchise in general and the movie franchise in particular. The "die-hards" (or at least a lot of them) need to actually get over themselves and listen to the other fans and open their minds a bit.


This is my message for the folks regarding the films:
The biggest problem with the franchise isn't who is at the helm of these movies, it's not the actors, it's not always even the script. It's the fans and the inability for most of them to realize that they (personally) are not the center of the TF universe.
This goes out to every TF moviegoer or TF fan that refuses to see the films: Stop being a selfish prick!! The audience range for these films is somewhere between 8 and 40 something so how dare you, in your arrogance, call something a complete piece of crap when you cannot POSSIBLY create something that will please everyone in that range. YOU didn't like it so it is therefore garbage?? Dude, seriously...there's the door to the fandom, don't let it hit your ass on the way out! When are you people going to learn that no 2 individuals, regardless of whether they are fans of the same topic, are going to see the same thing the same way.
I've said it a thousand times on here; Art, music, books, movies...these are all subjective, all open to different interpretation for each and every person. The live action films have to have something for everyone. You may not like that fact but you had damn well better accept it because it is not going to change, not for you and your narrow-minded pov, not for anyone.

On the off chance that that didn't infuriate enough of my fellow fans on here:

Bay at the helm of TF4... I don't care. Might as well keep him since we are used to it by now.
Wahlberg in the leading role... I'm totally cool with that.
Redesigned Characters... I'm cool with that too. Not like I'll be buying the toys anyways so I don't really care what they look like on screen except for Optimus staying as a truck. That's just iconic Prime for ya.
Unicron as a plot point... Biggest GD mistake they could make! I'd rather gouge out vital parts of my anatomy with a spork than put up with Unicron in the live action films. He died in 1986 along with his VA as far as I'm concerned. Show some respect for the past and leave him the hell ALONE!
Fox/Whitley style eye candy... absolutely DOES NOT belong in the TF universe, did NOTHING for the films. Inappropriate and unnecessary.
Anything that I may have left out, anyones buttons I haven't pushed, just let me know and I'll be happy to bring up a topic that WILL irritate/berate you and give me an opportunity to piss in your cornflakes. That's what I'm here for.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:30 pm
by Slashercon
T-Macksimus wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Ominous Prime wrote:Acting talent is pretty irrelevant. By all accounts John Malkovich was a magnificent actor too... and look what all that talent was reduced to in Dark of the Moon.

Given how the "crazy" level for every character keeps getting amped up further with each Transformers film, I'm expecting every single character in TF:4 to be at "Jim Carrey on a sugar high" levels of crazy. If any cast member can actually fit anything close to a meaningful performance into the midst of that insanity, I will be most impressed.


Gotta agree with this. Honestly, I just don't know what's wrong with Bay when it comes to Transformers; if memory serves, the characters in Bad Boys and The Rock weren't nearly as crazy or annoying as the TF movies.

Sabrblade wrote:
Mekatron wrote:If these horrible movies have made so much money... just imagine how well a GOOD Transformers movie would do. The success of the first three only tells me that people must REALLY love Transformers... even when they're covered in crap.
More like they love flashy fight scenes with big explosions and CGI robo-aliens trying to kill each other, as well as cool-looking military technology, hot eye-candy babe actresses, and fanservicey stud actors, and well-known voice actors the public recognizes (Peter Cullen for the fanbody, Hugo Weaving and Leonard Nimoy for the casual moviegoers).

That's what made these movies popular, not the Transformer characters themselves. :-|


Sad but true.

I know, since I'm a part of that audience. I left TF's behind along with all my childhood memories when I reached my teens, and it was the cool CGI designs of the Bayverse robots and those over-the-top transformation scenes that got me interested in Transformers again.


I have to make one slight change to Saberblades comment about the VA's: Leonard Nimoy should be included on the list for the Fanboys as well as the casual moviegoers. Having any member of the original 1986 animated movies cast be a part of the new films is a huge plus from a fanboys pov.

Skywarped, it's great having your input on coming back to the movies/fandom since so many on here, especially the Bay haters, are folks that have stuck with it throughout and have only one perspective on the franchise in general and the movie franchise in particular. The "die-hards" (or at least a lot of them) need to actually get over themselves and listen to the other fans and open their minds a bit.


This is my message for the folks regarding the films:
The biggest problem with the franchise isn't who is at the helm of these movies, it's not the actors, it's not always even the script. It's the fans and the inability for most of them to realize that they (personally) are not the center of the TF universe.
This goes out to every TF moviegoer or TF fan that refuses to see the films: Stop being a selfish prick!! The audience range for these films is somewhere between 8 and 40 something so how dare you, in your arrogance, call something a complete piece of crap when you cannot POSSIBLY create something that will please everyone in that range. YOU didn't like it so it is therefore garbage?? Dude, seriously...there's the door to the fandom, don't let it hit your ass on the way out! When are you people going to learn that no 2 individuals, regardless of whether they are fans of the same topic, are going to see the same thing the same way.
I've said it a thousand times on here; Art, music, books, movies...these are all subjective, all open to different interpretation for each and every person. The live action films have to have something for everyone. You may not like that fact but you had damn well better accept it because it is not going to change, not for you and your narrow-minded pov, not for anyone.

On the off chance that that didn't infuriate enough of my fellow fans on here:

Bay at the helm of TF4... I don't care. Might as well keep him since we are used to it by now.
Wahlberg in the leading role... I'm totally cool with that.
Redesigned Characters... I'm cool with that too. Not like I'll be buying the toys anyways so I don't really care what they look like on screen except for Optimus staying as a truck. That's just iconic Prime for ya.
Unicron as a plot point... Biggest GD mistake they could make! I'd rather gouge out vital parts of my anatomy with a spork than put up with Unicron in the live action films. He died in 1986 along with his VA as far as I'm concerned. Show some respect for the past and leave him the hell ALONE!
Fox/Whitley style eye candy... absolutely DOES NOT belong in the TF universe, did NOTHING for the films. Inappropriate and unnecessary.
Anything that I may have left out, anyones buttons I haven't pushed, just let me know and I'll be happy to bring up a topic that WILL irritate/berate you and give me an opportunity to piss in your cornflakes. That's what I'm here for.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I believe an applause is in order... :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:
Its nice to see how we all CAN'T get along despite differing opinions.

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:10 am
by MGrotusque
T-Macksimus wrote:This is my message for the folks regarding the films:
The biggest problem with the franchise isn't who is at the helm of these movies, it's not the actors, it's not always even the script. It's the fans and the inability for most of them to realize that they (personally) are not the center of the TF universe.

Gotta disagree with ya here pal...the plot and script is EXACTLY why the movies suck. I also disagree that you somehow think it's the fans fault. We just know what TF are. Micheal Bay doesn't. Did the fans make all the new Star Wars movie's suck as well?

Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:19 am
by YRQRM0
RazorSlash92 wrote:Y'know, the first 3 movies are guilty pleasures to me. I enjoy them to an extent, although I recognize when they completely screw up an aspect. Namely Shockwave in general, and the lack of any proper Optimus vs Megatron fight. But I'm really a bit iffy here. I'm not exactly sure they'll be able to pull off what they're trying to do. The "half-reboot" thing. Especially when they're in talks to completely replace the robot cast.

Also; Unicron or gtfo.


That's exactly how I feel, minus the Unicron thing, lol.

Honestly, these movies are so successful because of the most negative things: The trashy humor, the eye candy, but also the action. But, I believe they could make this successful without all that. I mean, look at the Avengers, it's completely family friendly (can't argue that it's not more so than the Transformers movies) and gets by on the pure fun and fantasy of the material. I mean, how hard is it to not do things TF fans will hate, like Starscream getting killed by humans, and just let the characters be themselves? I thought the first movie did a good job of finding both humor and drama in the TFs landing on Earth and interacting with humans, and now that we've skipped past the hours of origin stories and such, just make a good Decepticons VS Autobots movie...even if Megatron came back with a stupid explanation, I wouldn't care. A half-reboot sounds alright to me.

Luckily, we can bank on something happening to this franchise along the lines of Spider-Man soon enough...and by soon, I mean around 5 to 10 to 20 years, lol.