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[william-james88]

Hopefully everything is okay behind the scenes,and they are just polishing the film.

For over a year?! They are polishing Spider-man Far from Home right now and that film comes out in a month.

High chances that the toys will look nothing as they appear in the movie. Remember the Beetle Bee? That was just within the normal timeframe. The movie producers could turn Scourge into a Skids-N-Mudflap duo riding each other's shoulders for all we know.

Yeah, if they take that time to redo the bot modes to have a different aesthetic, then it will be like the toys from the first film. I am more curious about whether or not the toys will release next year or they will wait for 2023.

[Black Bumblebee]

This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.
If they already have designs made for folks like Polar Claw and Gears (who we know were originally planned for Kingdom, but cancelled), they will try to use such toys to fill in the gap so as to fill space.
I would also assume more cases of repaints, alas.

[Bounti76]

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

[Triggerdick Megatron]

TF7 delayed by a year???

Well that's just prime...


(I always wanted to say that )

[Triggerdick Megatron]

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

[Bounti76]

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.

[TF-fan kev777]

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.

Except the Bumblebee movie did in fact have a toy line, it just wasn't very large and shifted more towards younger audiences with the energon igniters skipping the regular deluxe/voyager figures that eventually went into Studio Series. That line was the only way to get TR Frenzy. That was the first movie release while Studio Series was in stores and was a bit different from past movies. But so far, it would also be the exception to what they have done in the past. It is anyone's guess how they will do things this time around

[william-james88]

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

Last knight studio series doesnt exist

[Bumblevivisector]

Maybe Hasbro's studied their supply chain problems enough to assume that RotB toys won't hit stores in significant numbers until about a year after their intended release?

[Immortal Starscream]

this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.

[TOO MUCH ENERGON!]

this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.

Venom: Let There Be Carnage had a $90 million opening weekend, bigger than that of the first film. Not a great example. But I do agree that this is probably pandemic-related.

[griftimus prime]

told you guys when the movie was announced they wont release on time. its paramount

[First-Aid]

This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.

I doubt it. This has more to do with supply chain issues than anything. It's actually really, really scary right now. Inflation is hitting record levels and will only increase as the supply chains tighten. This means less product, more demand, higher prices...a lot of economists are looking at the potential of superinflation now as a real possibility. This would be catastrophic globally. People have quit working and workplace participation is still at record lows despite rapidly inflating wages (another part of superinflation). There has already been an announcement of toy shortages for Christmas.

As for the pandemic causing this, not so much as government decisions to shut things down. Toys are nonessential and were shut down. Non-medicinal plastics were placed behind medical wares. Hasbro wants the toyline to coincide with the movie as research demonstrates higher sales of the toys, plus the toys also cause sales feedback into movies often, bumping ticket sales. It's a financial decision. In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

[william-james88]

In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

[First-Aid]

In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.

[william-james88]

In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.

We already knew that we were not going to get studio series toys to go with ROTB when it comes out since we knew the entirety of 2022's SS line.
We might get them later.
BUT if they take an extra year to rework bot modes and change designs, then the SS toys planned will now be innacurste since it takes 2 years from designing to consumption for transforners toys.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

super bummed that it got pushed a whole year. That is a long time

[Deadput]

Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.

[william-james88]

Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and **** and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some ****.

[MaximalNui]

Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." - Shigeru Miyamoto.

I think the same applies to films, especially when they involve multiple VFX characters with (I hope) a significant presence.

Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and **** and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some ****.

As someone who enjoys mixing usually opposite genres like science fiction and fantasy, and who unironically loves Beast Machines (as its own show, anyway; as a sequel it's terrible and way below BW), I actually think that's cool and would like to see it.

Minus maybe the Unicron part; try and bring/reference other great evils from the past instead of constantly relying on Devil Galactus-bot, will ya? I love the Unicron/Primus/Thirteen mythology, and even I'm getting annoyed over its repetetiveness.

Also cut it out with the skybeams.

[TulioDude]

The CGI in this movie will be done by a new special effects company instead of the Industrial Light & Magic right?I remember seeing in the Seibertron news but I can't find the headline.

Day 735 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

[william-james88]

Ha, I ran into this news story I wrote just 3 years ago. Man, how times have changed

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ent/43075/

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Today is a busy day! Following up on the first tease for the upcoming Nickelodeon cartoon Transformers: Earthspark, Paramount has thought fit to provide a small update on the big screen area of the Transformers fiction arena.

First up, Paramount writes the following when it comes to Transformers Rise of the Beasts :

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will be released theatrically in 2023 and is the first of three new installments.

What this will mean for the story within those movies is unknown, but it is nice to know there appears to be a long term plan.

Second, Paramount cross-advertised the Nickelodeon cartoon, which is set to premier later in 2023.

Finally, Paramount has advised that a CG Animated Transformers film is still on the docket for 2024. While we get no further details on that movie, it is nice to know they are keeping us posted that it is coming.

You can check out the Tweet below where Paramount advertised this information, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.

[Stormshot_Prime]

I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

[TulioDude]

Glad to know they have confidence in Transformers.
I'm excited to know more!