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Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Sun May 21, 2023 9:46 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:It's hard to predict with certainty, since we live in a universe of infinite possibilities. But I think they're over-estimating, which is something the geniuses in Hollywood have been doing a lot recently. Especially if the producers and writers try to use the film as a soapbox to vent their personal hang-ups, which has also been a predictable (and annoying) habit of theirs.


Though the movie gross is important, in a case like this I think there is more to it. This is more of a total package thing: movie sales PLUS toy sales PLUS merchandising. If the BB movie really did so poorly globally compared to its budget, why did Paramount make a sequel? Easy. Hasbro makes more than enough on toy and merchandising sales to compensate Paramount for however poorly the movie does at the theater. The movies are still glorified toy commercials....just with better special effects than the old days.

That said, I think $600 million globally is not out of reach for this movie. I predict a global gross of $701,225,306.43.
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:49 am

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This will either be the biggest Transformers film in history or will crash and burn so badly that fans will be getting into knife fights in toy isles trying to get those Zuru mini-brand balls since those will be the only way to get new Transformers toys.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Mon May 22, 2023 1:35 pm

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 1:39 pm

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TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 22, 2023 2:48 pm

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TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 3:07 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 22, 2023 3:26 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Mon May 22, 2023 4:06 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?


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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 5:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 22, 2023 5:17 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
Who's on first
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 7:30 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
Who's on first


What's on second?
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Mon May 22, 2023 7:31 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
Who's on first


I DONT KNOW.
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 22, 2023 9:18 pm

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First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
Who's on first


I DONT KNOW.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon May 22, 2023 9:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.


What movie?
Exactly!


They made a movie about that?
What's a movie?


Who's a movie?
Who's on first


I DONT KNOW.
Third base


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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby noctorro » Tue May 23, 2023 1:45 am

I'm hyped and I hope it's fun and does well.

Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.

+ the trailer looks fun, but blurry and not sharp/realistic. So for not Transformers fans, I can imagine it looks like a weak Transformers/pixar animation movie instead of Dark of the Moon realistic looking practical effects spectacle but 10 years more advanced. Looking at the trailer it actually looks less than Transformers 1 from 2007, it looks more anime/game like in shots/action which is good.

I hope it does well, I hope the Transformers characters, have character and dialogue and not only toward humans. I do hope they incorporate humans and human areas (cities etc.). That battle scene looks very cool, but also very fully cg pixar. It's a bunch of cg animals fighting other cg robot animals in a muddy desert.

Keep it cool, keep it fun and also keep it serious (don't go full Marvel) and it will be a good movie. If it does well, I think it will break even at best. Too much competition and a bit too niche looking at the trailer, and cg just looks playstation 3, whilst we have already got a playstation 5.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Tue May 23, 2023 5:53 am

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From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!

Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Tue May 23, 2023 7:27 am

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EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!

Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1


Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby TOO MUCH ENERGON! » Tue May 23, 2023 10:16 am

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First-Aid wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!

Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1


Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.


The music that plays during the siege of Autobot City, when we're first introduced to Perceptor, sticks out in my mind as well.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Tue May 23, 2023 10:36 am

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I imagine we’ll hear Arrival to Earth at some point (which would be awesome), but besides that, maybe we’ll hear Optimus and Bumblebee’s respective themes?

Hearing some of Steve Jablonsky’s themes again has made me even more excited to see ROTB, can’t wait!
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Tue May 23, 2023 10:41 am

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First-Aid wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!

Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1


Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.


The music that plays during the siege of Autobot City, when we're first introduced to Perceptor, sticks out in my mind as well.


It does, but what's interesting is there doesn't seem to be one overriding theme for that music. It's frantic, fast, and changes quickly, but no one theme really repeats over and over like, for example, the Imperial march in Star Wars or the Indiana Jones theme (ALL HAIL JOHN WILLIAMS!). The Unicron theme however, was repeated multiple times very clearly. That's the main difference I see.
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Wed May 24, 2023 1:52 am

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"Unicron Theme" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Movie (1986)
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Performed by LL Cool J
"Arrival to Earth" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007) Written by Steve Jablonsky
"No Sacrifice, No Victory" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007) Written by Steve Jablonsky
"Ending" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Last Knight (2017) Written by Steve Jablonsky
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Wed May 24, 2023 4:42 am

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Burn wrote:"Arrival to Earth" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007) Written by Steve Jablonsky
"No Sacrifice, No Victory" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007) Written by Steve Jablonsky
"Ending" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Last Knight (2017) Written by Steve Jablonsky

Awesome! :michaelbay: Can’t wait to hear those tracks again!
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby First-Aid » Wed May 24, 2023 8:00 am

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Burn wrote:Full track listing (apparently)
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/trans ... e-hip-hop/

"Unicron Theme" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Movie (1986)


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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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List of Tracks that will Play in ROTB include Bayverse Themes, 86 Movie Themes and lots of R&B

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 24, 2023 9:17 am

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Paramount Pictures has released a playlist on Spotify for the tracks that will be featured (or that they planned on featuring) in the upcoming Transformers Rise of the Beasts film. As the trailers have shown, the film is going for am 90s urban theme, and the soundtrack will help boost that vibe with lots of rap and R&B from legends of the era.

We also see music cues from past Transformers films including the 86 film and the Bay films. This list is supposdly in the same order the songs will play in the film, which means that the theme song for the film by Tobe Nwigwe, Nas & Jacob Banks, will play in the credits.

"Unicron Theme" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Movie (1986)
Written by Vincent L. DiCola

"C.R.E.A.M."
Written by Isaac Hayes, David Porter, Gary E. Grice, Clifford Smith, Russell T. Jones, Robert F. Diggs, Dennis David Coles, Jason S. Hunter, Corey Woods & Lamont Hawkins
Performed by Wu-Tang Clan
Courtesy of Loud Records, LLC
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
Contains sample of "As Long As I've Got You"
Performed by The Charmels
Courtesy of Atlantic Recording Corp.
By arrangement with Warner Music Group Film & TV Licensing

"Check The Rhime"
Written by Roger Ball, Malcolm Duncan, Kamaal Fareed, Stephen Ferrone, Alan Gorrie, Alki Shaheed Jones, Owen McIntyre, Minne Ripperton, Richard Rudolph, James Stuart, Malik Taylor & Leon Ware
Performed by A Tribe Called Quest
Courtesy of RCA Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment

"Anything (Old Skool Radio Version)"
Written by Brian Alexander Morgan, Tyrone Armstrong & Ray Anthony Smith
Performed by SWV
Courtesy of RCA Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
Contains sample of "Get Up And Dance" by Freedom
Courtesy of Malaco Records

"Scamba"
Written by Scott Hardy
Performed by Leslie Pintchik
Courtesy of Leslie Pintchik
License by Arrangement with Fine Gold Music
"Represent"
Written by Christopher E. Martin & Nasir Jones
Performed by Nas
Courtesy of Columbia Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment

"Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat) – Agami Music Version"
Written by Ishmael R. Butler & Mary Ann Vieira
Performed by Digable Planets
Courtesy of Capitol Records
Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

"The Choice Is Yours"
Written by Andres Titus, William K. McLean, Ben Cauley, James Alexander, Allen Alvoid, Jr. Jones & Johnny Hammond
Performed by Black Sheep
Courtesy of Island Records
Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

"Groove Thang"
Written by Shereelynn Sarah Brown, Keir Lamont Gist, Charles C. Mims, Renée Neufville,
Patrice L. Rushen & Fred Douglas Washington

"Waterfalls"
Written by Patrick Brown, Marquez Ethridge, Raymon Ameer Murray, Rico Wade & Lisa Nicole Lopes

"Carnaval de Qatqa"
Traditional

"Huaylarsh"
Traditional

"Saqraz de Paucartambo Cusco"
Traditional

"Whoomp There It Is"
Written by Stephen Gibson & Cecil Lavel Glenn

"Mama Said Knock You Out (Sam Wilkes Remix)"
Written by Gregory E. Jacobs, James Todd Smith, Sylvester Stewart, Marlon Lu'Ree Williams, James Louis McCants, Leroy McCants, William Earl Collins, George Clinton, Jr. & Walter Morrison
Performed by LL Cool J
Courtesy of Def Jam Recordings under license from Universal Music Enterprises

"Arrival to Earth" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007)
Written by Steve Jablonsky

"No Sacrifice, No Victory" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007)
Written by Steve Jablonsky

"Ending" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Last Knight (2017)
Written by Steve Jablonsky

"Hypnotize"
Written by Randy Badazz Alpert, Deric Michael Angeletti, Andy W. Armer, Sean J. Combs, Ronald Anthony Lawrence & Christopher Wallace
Performed by Notorious B.I.G.
Courtesy of Bad Boy Records/Atlantic Recording Corp.
By arrangement with Warner Music Group Film & TV Licensing

"On My Soul"
Written by Tobe Nwigwe, Nasir Jones & Jacob Banks
Produced by The Good Stewards (Tobe Nwigwe, Nic Humes , Nick Baker)
Performed by Tobe Nwigwe, Nas & Jacob Banks
Courtesy of Tobe Nwigwe, LLC, Mass Appeal, Paramount Music & Nobody Records
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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

Postby Cheesinator » Wed May 24, 2023 11:19 am

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Arrival To Earth and Unicron themes will be very cool to hear! I was hoping for the original Bayverse Decepticon theme as well, but see how this wouldn't be the movie for that (if they are indeed ever bringing it back).

noctorro wrote:Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.


Tbh I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes on this topic but this is the first time I've seen inclusion of non-white people in a movie as being a virus. :lol:

Kinda jarring to see hateful rhetoric like that in a forum about transforming robots, but oh well.
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