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[noctorro]

For relative sizing purposes:

4.5" / 11.4 cm: between Legends & Deluxe Class
7" / 17.8 cm: Voyager Class

(used figures on hand)

... and the latter coming carded works against it when it comes to legitimacy at first sight. Generally speaking, figures of that size are usually boxed; KO's on the other hand are a different story. Not saying they're KO's, just that people will think that they are... at least of similar quality.

Little kids seem to LOVE touching the plastic and then call mom to buy it.

How do little kids end up in a toy store with a mobile phone?

[noctorro]

Those 7" versions of Bee and Optimus are still ugly asfak, but just giving them elbows is a great improvements that make the toys worthwhile. And those are better than the RiD and Movie 3 steps.

I thought you really liked that RID 3 Step Grimlock.

Offtopic:
Anybody got the Wijiang upscaled deluxe RID (green) Grimlock?
Just got 3 of them (army builder sl*t here), solid KO with metal shoulders!

Worth looking into.

[-Kanrabat-]

For relative sizing purposes:

4.5" / 11.4 cm: between Legends & Deluxe Class
7" / 17.8 cm: Voyager Class

(used figures on hand)

... and the latter coming carded works against it when it comes to legitimacy at first sight. Generally speaking, figures of that size are usually boxed; KO's on the other hand are a different story. Not saying they're KO's, just that people will think that they are... at least of similar quality.

Little kids seem to LOVE touching the plastic and then call mom to buy it.

How do little kids end up in a toy store with a mobile phone?

Ha ha.
Maybe I should have said "ask" or "demand".
Still, toddlers with smartphones is pretty common nowadays. And many parents forget to turn the purchases off. Then little Timmy spend 10000$ in micro transactions for some poopy game.

[william-james88]

And upscale Legends Starscream (who started off with a mini Waspinator) to voyager as well.

Please dont, that toy doesnt even have proper leg articulation.

[primalxconvoy]

These will probably be the best figures of 2018

How about they rescale G1 Legends Optimus to voyager size with additional articulation and detail..(a)nd upscale Legends Starscream (who started off with a mini Waspinator) to voyager as well?

- http://sirtoys.com/toys.php?c=1&p=3461& ... Prime.html

- http://sirtoys.com/toys.php?c=1&p=3459& ... cream.html

- http://sirtoys.com/toys.php?q=Wj+legends

[Jelze Bunnycat]

And upscale Legends Starscream (who started off with a mini Waspinator) to voyager as well.

Please dont, that toy doesnt even have proper leg articulation.

Transformers Generations Starscream Gallery

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

[william-james88]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

[Wolfman Jake]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

That could be added. Upscaling a design doesn't mean, necessarily, keeping all of the articulation unchanged. With a Voyager sized version of Thrilling 30 Legends Starscream, adding a cut to the thigh assembly would be a piece of cake and wouldn't change much of anything about the overall transformation scheme. I'd love to see that design brought to life again in a larger scaled toy, especially since it's a very honest transformation without faux cockpits or other weird design choices.

[primalxconvoy]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

That could be added. Upscaling a design doesn't mean, necessarily, keeping all of the articulation unchanged. With a Voyager sized version of Thrilling 30 Legends Starscream, adding a cut to the thigh assembly would be a piece of cake and wouldn't change much of anything about the overall transformation scheme. I'd love to see that design brought to life again in a larger scaled toy, especially since it's a very honest transformation without faux cockpits or other weird design choices.

Someone did some mods to the OSKO Legends Starscream. They made a separate thread to a similarly repainted Skywarp version, too.


- http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/w ... s.1128078/

EDIT: - If there is a similar post for this custom at Seibertron, let me know and I'll replace the link.

[Emerje]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

That could be added. Upscaling a design doesn't mean, necessarily, keeping all of the articulation unchanged.

Case in point:




They even swapped the ball joints out for ratchets.

Emerje

[Quantum Surge]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

That could be added. Upscaling a design doesn't mean, necessarily, keeping all of the articulation unchanged.

Case in point:




They even swapped the ball joints out for ratchets.

Emerje

I feel like kicking myself for not getting Predaking. Even Optimus looks good (aside from the green)

[primalxconvoy]

Looks fine to me. I do agree on the Cyber Battalion one however.

lack of thigh swivel is deal breaker, if the idea is to upscale to voyager

That could be added. Upscaling a design doesn't mean, necessarily, keeping all of the articulation unchanged.

Case in point:




They even swapped the ball joints out for ratchets.

Emerje

I never saw that Predaking for sale in Japan, but always wanted it to competent the Takara only red version. It looked amazing, considering it was an official OSKO, of sorts.

[-Kanrabat-]

I feel like kicking myself for not getting Predaking. Even Optimus looks good (aside from the green)

Allow me to give you a kick. Because that Prime Predaking toy is the BEST one of the line. Far superior to either the voyager or the supreme.

It's also the best dragon transformer ever in my humble opinion.

[william-james88]

While the initial toys from the Authentics line have proven to be lack luster, fans still admit the evergreen designs they are emulating are great. So, for all the fans wishing we had more standard Transformers toys based on these designs, we may have some pretty cool news for you. Weibo user TF Factory posted packaging mock ups for what appears to be a deluxe and voyager class box. These boxes feature Emiliano Santalucia's evergreen Bumblebee design on them, the same image found on the packaging art of the simpler Bumblebee figures. Since we know that there will already be voyager sized simpler figures and that they come in a very different carded packaging, these boxes are definitely for something else, and hopefully that is for figures of more standard complexity.

Let us know if you are pleased by the possibility of getting these designs on other figures and if you feel a voyager Bumblebee makes sense.





For comparison's sake, here is the packaging for the simpler voyager sized figure.

[Hotconvoy]

I hope i hope i hope they make good figures of these guys

[primalxconvoy]

I ususpect that these are actually one of several possible things:

- Existing TFs rebranded under this new line.
- Something obscene, that a kindly mod has edited, to stop a flame-war
- A actual pink, smear of paint, sold as part of the most budget of budget lines, for the developing market.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

They're more Generations-style I suspect, with the 8+ Age instead of 6+ for any other line.

[Deadput]

As one who doesn't care (but not hate) that much about Bumblebee I wouldn't mind a decent articulated figure of that design, it's the only one out of the Evergreen designs we have seen up close that is a more original design.

[Hotconvoy]

You know what this packaging reminds me of AoE. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing . Oh well

[Sabrblade]

You know what this packaging reminds me of AoE. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing . Oh well

Well, yeah, that's the same new packaging look that Hasbro's been using for all of its main lines since AOE. It's to create brand consistency with all of main Hasbro Transformers lines (except for Rescue Bots since that's instead under Playskool's label).

[The_Cryptid_Person]

I have high hopes for this. Maybe they will make voyagers of all the “evergreen” cast - could make up for Starscream and Grimlock’s lackluster PotP releases. Deluxe Bumblebee may have potential too. With this latest leak I really don’t see cyberverse actually having toys. What we’ve seen so far lines up perfectly with these designs, but I may have missed some leaks along the way. Assuming there isn’t something else, we have Authentics Bravo to replace one steps and the like and this stuff (authentics alpha?) to replace warriors and hyper change. Granted Bravo seems aimed at “market six” stores, but some “kids don’t care that it’s bad” figures wound up there anyway. Seems like a huge improvement over RiD if this is the case.

[Emerje]

Toy Fair is only two weeks away, I'm sure we'll have some of our reveals then. Just don't be disappointed if we don't get a Voyager Bumblebee, these are just mock ups after all.

Emerje

[Va'al]

You'll remember how it was revealed that there are larger, 7 inch Transformers Authentics toy than the 4.5" initially seen, also featuring new designs that hark back to the evergreen, iconic shapes and sizes of classic characters such as Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Starscream, Megatron, Grimlock and Soundwave. Thanks to the Snakas blog, we actually have in hand images and a sighting, coming to us by way of the Philippines (where they are on sale at Toy Kingdom for 599.75 Pesos / 11 USD at the time of writing ) for the two Autobots and the Dinobot!

Grimlock also comes with some posed imagery and shots of both modes, while the other two are in package and on-shelf, and some comparisons with the smaller class size Megatron, too - but check them all out below.

[primalxconvoy]

If those are the larger versions, that Grimlock looks identical to the smaller one. Are they just official OSKOs of the smaller versions?

[Hotconvoy]

If those are the larger versions, that Grimlock looks identical to the smaller one. Are they just official OSKOs of the smaller versions?

There is no smaller Authentics Grimlock, but Prime and Bee are just OSKOs