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News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:50 pm

That is disappointing. I had really hoped they kept them faithful to the original. Guess it's time to start canceling preorders.

by **JazztfLaw** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:27 am

I remember how badly I wanted to own the old BW toys as a kid, now I can live without just fine. I mean sheesh they couldn't bother painting his chest this time. >:oP

News Credits: 2 · by **Spider5800** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:50 am

Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:55 am

Well to be fair, ever since reissues of the original Transformers toys started coming out (I think of the Commemorative Series starting back in 2002 and on), they haven't been 100% the same as the originals either.

It's likely for adults now, who grew up with BW, but haven't seen the toys in many years, same idea with most "G1" re-releases. Most hardcore fans can tell the differences, but many casual "fans-when-they-were-kids" wont really know the difference.

Heck, it's even been asserted at times, that modern-figures in retro packaging (ex. The Headmasters at Walmart) -some casual "fan-when-they-were-a-kid" might even think they ARE reproductions of the original toys

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News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:02 pm

could be for all those that paid the price tag on half an optimus prime toy compared to the price of the full reissue some years back

Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:06 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

What piece?

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:58 pm

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

People like me who didn't have any of the originals. Toy or cartoon accuracy also isn't a huge stickler for me, these are close enough.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:53 am

It seems the US will be first to get the Beast Wars reissues in hand. Right now, both Cheetor and Rattrap are in-stock on Walmart's site. Below are the links to buy these two toys, both priced just shy of $23 USD.

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Rattrap Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /200598161

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Cheetor Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /662391149

Let us know if your order works out, you never know with Walmart.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:45 pm

I ordered both. I never had a Rattrap and I'm curious to compare Cheetor to the Sonokong version from the early 2000s. Man, haven't thought of that company in a while.

by **Me Lord Grimlock** » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:30 am

I ordered both as well because walmart store toy aisles are a waste of time

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:59 am

They were supposed to be delivered today but Walmart sent an email early this morning saying both figures were delayed. My gut tells me they're going to cancel since the rest of the figures weren't up.

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:47 pm

Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:22 am

Lore Keeper wrote:Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.

The hold on the order has been released and I have the money back in my Paypal account. Don't know what to do.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:59 pm

Made a second-order that was just delayed today. Now it'll be a few days and the hold will probably be released. Don't know how they're getting reviews of them but the figures aren't being shipped out.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:17 pm

Let's face it, the only news of interest for these reissues is "where/when can I get it" and "how does it compare to the original release". Well now, I can at least answer that second part for everyone. My original Transformers Beast Wars Cheetor has been well played with so the spots are fading away and I no longer have his tail gun. But there's still enough of him to see how this reissue differs.

Firstly, unlike what some naysayers can say, this reissue's plastic quality is as good as the original 1996 toy. My OG Cheetor's joints have gotten really loose over time so it's nice to have a Cheetor with nice tight joints (but not too tight). This is a quality reissue, nothing feels cheap.

Mold wise, this is not the same mold used for the original Cheetor. It becomes more obvious when looking at the fur and the gut gun. The details are not the same with the fur curling in a different direction and the gut gun's innards pattern looks more organic and misshapen around the edges in the original, while more even on the reissue.

In terms of deco, I am impressed at how they used a yellow plastic that is very close to the original. I thought my OG Cheetor had faded since he wasn't bright yellow but as it turns out, that is indeed his original colour.

The blue paint on the reissue is of a brighter blue, similar to the MP and the Netflix toy, while the original looks more navy (well that's what it looks like now). Also, and this could simply be due to the passage of time, the bronze parts are much nicer on the reissue while mine look more brownish.

But these are all just slight differences, and could be due to age. The main difference is in the three sets of eyes, the beast eyes, robot eyes and mutant eyes. On my OG toy, they are all the same 90s rad fluo green. It gives it a nice uniformity from one mode to the next. In the reissue, all three sets have a different deco. The eyes on the beast mode are a darker forest green, the eyes for the robot mode are bright salmon and the eyes for the mutant head are bronze.

Overall, the quality is as good as you could hope on this reissue and I am glad to have a fresh new "OG" Cheetor in my collection.

News Credits: 2 · by **SpikeyTigertron** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:15 pm

Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:17 pm

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:40 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

One of Takara's variants of Cheetus: Cheetus on TFU.info

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News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Still waiting for Walmart.com to just ship mine.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:02 pm

While the cheetor figure us of great quality the Rattrap feels cheaper than I remember. It has that lighter plastic feel, similar to T30 Rattrap. The price being charged for Rattrap is ridiculous.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:06 pm

have these been found in the US yet or not?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:13 pm

william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?

Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:55 pm

My order is still pending from the Walmart website, even though it was supposed to be delivered in two days. That was like two months ago. I've given up all hope.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:25 am

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?

Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.

One of my local Walmarts just reset and didn't have space set aside fore these.

Emerje

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:27 am

Did we know that Japan would be getting these too? As exclusives to TakaraTomy Mall and the Cybertron Satellite?

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/c/cTFbwv/

They've also slightly renamed the line as "Transformers: Beast Wars Vintage".