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News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:39 am

Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:47 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

So both shipped from Walmart?

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

So both shipped from Walmart?

Yes, both. Two orders actually as I thought the first one was canceled.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:27 pm

Did any of you opt for the Walmart preorders for the retro Beast Wars figures? I know that preorders at big box stores have been hit or miss but it seems to be a hit here this time. Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 got his orders the other day and had the time to do a quick review of Cheetor and Rattrap if anyone wanted to see a video review of these. They have yet to appear in store, but should be doing so soon.

by **Galvatron002** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:36 pm

I found the reissues of Cheetor and Megatron at Walmart in Halifax, NS last week.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:39 pm

Galvatron002 wrote:I found the reissues of Cheetor and Megatron at Walmart in Halifax, NS last week.

They've been found in Canada for months now, as well as other parts of the world. It's in the US that they are still MIA and that happens a lot with these retro releases.

by **Mistaken_Table** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:01 pm

The UK of all places has had these for a while now, though the on-site reviews are bad. Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

ID Toys has already reduced them, so I'm getting him anyway.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:22 pm

Mistaken_Table wrote:Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

The original one had the same problem with paint apps, particularly on the beast mode chest. Can you elaborate more about the flaws that people are experiencing with the reissue? I'm curious if it's just people not being familiar with the original toy.

by **Mistaken_Table** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:37 pm

Mistaken_Table wrote:
Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

The original one had the same problem with paint apps, particularly on the beast mode chest. Can you elaborate more about the flaws that people are experiencing with the reissue? I'm curious if it's just people not being familiar with the original toy.

Tried to check Smyth's reviews again. They've all been removed apart from a single 5-star review! From what I remember it was the red on the knees and upper arms. The cannon/buttcheek flaps snapped after a few swings and the back of the shoulder pads didn't have the flex to get over the tabs.

Yeah, the toy had its flaws, and even my childhood one has lost the cannon flaps, but the paint and plastic is still stellar. Even the arm flapping/rotating gimmick is still going strong after 25 years!

Granted it may have been a few QC hiccups with the 1st production of the re-issues, but to be broken that quickly by adult collectors?

Of course, I'm getting one (I collect Optimus Primals) and I can do my own comparisons.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:51 pm

Mistaken_Table wrote:From what I remember it was the red on the knees and upper arms.

I'm fairly certain that's a problem with the original as well. I've got about a dozen in my store in varying degrees of condition and can post pics of what a larger sample size of the original toy looks like in used condition.

Mistaken_Table wrote:The cannon/buttcheek flaps snapped after a few swings

Those pop off easily, if I recall correctly (and is one of the pieces often missing from loose samples in collections I purchase), and the gorilla head pops off easily on the original. If this is from reviews on a website, regular consumer comments might say "snapped off" but really means "popped off" and possibly doesn't realize that the piece can be popped back in.

Mistaken_Table wrote:and the back of the shoulder pads didn't have the flex to get over the tabs.

This could be something as simple as extra plastic on the pegs that just needs to be cleaned up a little or something simple like that.

Mistaken_Table wrote:Yeah, the toy had its flaws, and even my childhood one has lost the cannon flaps, but the paint and plastic is still stellar. Even the arm flapping/rotating gimmick is still going strong after 25 years!

Sounds like you took good enough care of yours to keep the paint in good condition. Even mine has paint scrapes on the beast mode chest which I've oddly never bothered to replace for some reason or another (or I upgraded it to one with less marks on it maybe).

Granted it may have been a few QC hiccups with the 1st production of the re-issues, but to be broken that quickly by adult collectors?

Of course, I'm getting one (I collect Optimus Primals) and I can do my own comparisons.[/quote]

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:54 pm

I've got the reissues (all of the reissues) and the originals. This is making me really want to do some quick galleries for comparisons.

News Credits: 18 · by **TFanPage101** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:45 am

I'm loving the reissues, got all from this line so far. I actually did a video opening the Primal and Megatron
https://youtu.be/XSh9Vvg668E

by **Mistaken_Table** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:21 am

Right, that's me finally folded and ordered the Optimus. Re-read my posts from last night and realised I was taking reviews as face-value. Even the best figures get bad reviews, right?

Also, didn't realise I was chewing the fat with the boss around here! Galleries for the re-issues would be great.

Lastly, how does the re-issue compare with the 10th anniversary Optimus from the 2-pack with Megatron? I remember him being way lighter but still a quality figure.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:42 am

Seibertron wrote:
Mistaken_Table wrote:Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

The original one had the same problem with paint apps, particularly on the beast mode chest. Can you elaborate more about the flaws that people are experiencing with the reissue? I'm curious if it's just people not being familiar with the original toy.

I got this Primal reissue and I have the original, they both feel the same. I still preffer the Legends reissue simply for the headsculpt but quality wise and plastic wise, it's all very similar to me.

Like TOO MUCH ENERGON! on Facebook · by **TOO MUCH ENERGON!** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:09 am

I found Cheetor, Rattrap, and Megatron in Victoria BC about a month ago. Still haven’t been able to find Primal, alas. Granted it’s been a few years since I’ve had the original Megatron and Cheetor in-hand (lost in a move about five years ago), but the reissues feel pretty much identical to me. Paint jobs are different, but other than Megatron’s head now being black instead of silver and purple, I think they’re an improvement. I especially like the darker purple of Meg’s beast mode. Cheetor has never looked better all around.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:29 am

As with the G1 rerelases, it has taken a while for Walmart stores in the US to put these on shelves. And we know they've had them for a while since Hasbro had shipped these off to North America for a few months now. They appeared in Canada, then they were shipping from Walmart.com and now they are finally on actual shelves. The image below comes from a Walmart in California (Mountain View Walmart. specifically) where we can see all 4 releases: Rarrtap, Cheetor, Optimus Primal and Megatron.

This sighting is from TF Fan clonemanager who posted this on the TFW2005 message boards.

by **Mistaken_Table** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:20 am

I know this isn't the point, but those are some sad looking shelves. Then again, its the same for every shelf in every shop in the UK. Brexit feels more like an embargo at the moment.

As for figures, loved them growing up and the reissues are a good alternative to the originals. *hums Beast Wars theme*

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:24 am

In the UK, Pulse is the only way to get these figures

by **Mistaken_Table** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:38 am

In the UK, Pulse is the only way to get these figures

I'm not an 'um, actually...' kinda a guy, but IDToys, Kapow and Smyths all have them too. For cheaper in some cases. I paid £35 for the Optimus from IDToys. When the prices inevitably plummet, I'll get the Megs too.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:05 pm

Smyths! Argh how could I forget that one! Gah, though in my post I was talking physical stock in Shops as us UK'ers have generally had to rely more and more on online ordering as times went on. Still, i shouldn't have forgotten that smyths had gotten hold of the UK non-online release #-o

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:11 pm

Mistaken_Table wrote:I know this isn't the point, but those are some sad looking shelves. Then again, its the same for every shelf in every shop in the UK. Brexit feels more like an embargo at the moment.

I think that's perfectly in line with a discussion many are having. Those are indeed sad looking shelves, it's the first thing I thought of. BUT I am unsure if that is in the Transformers section or some other section since these are specialty type toys. I know in some of my stores, I found them in a different area.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:32 pm

We have been sent a list of upcoming toys for 2022 and we are breaking them down per line. Of course, since we only have listed names from ordering sheets and no actual listings, you should take these with a grain of salt.

This list below is for the Beast Wars vintage line which is remaining Walmart exclusive for the next year. What is absolutely amazing about the list of toys below is that unlike the ones form this year, some of these were never rereleased and, more importantly, they all come with accessories that have been easy to lose (like Tarantulas' leg missiles and K-9's spinal missiles). It also includes one of the greatest Transformers toys ever made, BW Cybershark. The list is below followed by gallery links for you to see the toys.

Tra Gen BW vintage Terrorsaur x6
Tra Gen BW vintage Tarantulas x6
Tra Gen BW vintage Cybershark x6
Tra Gen BW vintage K-9 x6

Transformers Beast Wars Tarantulas (Tarans) Gallery

Transformers Beast Wars Cybershark Gallery

Transformers Beast Wars Terrorsaur (Terrorsaurer) Gallery

Transformers Beast Wars K-9 (Max-B) Gallery

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:37 pm

Coming to you Live from Left Field!

Cyber shark and K9? Welcome figures because unlike the others I don’t have multiple versions, but boy are those left field

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:14 am

Cool, I have K9 and would love to get the other 3 for my collection.

Emerje

by **Nemesis Reformatted** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:36 am

Cybershark is my #1 favorite Beast Wars character but I wanted a new version with updated articulation. I obviously have the original. So I was disappointed to see it's just a reissue.

But it's totally awesome to see him on the list & mentioned again after all these years. The stupid fans would never choose a non-show character for anything. Just being honest. Most fans try to erase anything that wasn't in the toon. :roll: